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#1 Oct 04 2007 at 4:06 PM Rating: Good
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In the past I've been relatively safe when in a group, of course until things go wrong and everyone else dies. Oh how things have changed, but I'm not sure why. I did my my first dungeons in the outlands and appear to be a marked target. Last group was: lvl 63 Warrior, lvl 64 warrior, lvl 60 pali, lvl 63 rogue, and myself lvl 61 lock. The Mob is marked, targets assigned, Rogue saps, warriors charge, I send in my Big Ugly(Felguard)to the predetermined target (usually same target as warriors attack)...and wham.....I all the sudden Miss popular and the mobs are on me. Of course I still 20+ feet away, which gives my squishy @$$ just enough time to wave good by to the party.......graveyard shuffle. Whats go'in on?
#2 Oct 04 2007 at 5:11 PM Rating: Good
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turn off anguish? stop spamming searing pain? give tanks a few extra seconds to build threat? turn off pets cleave if CC'd mobs are near by it?

there's plenty of answers but we can't be sure which are right unless you provide a bit more detail on the issue
#3 Oct 04 2007 at 9:34 PM Rating: Good
What's going on is that you have no threat mitigation with your felguard out and you need to L2DPS. There is more to it than just putting up the biggest numbers. A major (dare I say the most important) part of DPSing is to not pull hate. Try getting Omen Threat Meters.
#4 Oct 05 2007 at 12:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Jenovaomega wrote:
give tanks a few extra seconds to build threat?


Would be my answer too.

I do hope you are not spamming searing pain... that would be extremely stupid for anything but getting mob off healer.
I also hope you do know how to manage your pet - always on passive, cleave on manual and never around CCed mobs, taunt only when you have to offtank, intercept on manual and use it when you need something stopped for those 3 secs.

At level 61 I would actually rather use succy for OL instancing, seduce could help your group more than felguard dps and I doubt you can offtank much yet.

Dont spam SBs before you see at least 2-3 sunders on target. Communicate with your tank and ask when, what and why.
And yes, get Omen.

#5 Oct 05 2007 at 6:30 AM Rating: Default
Most helpful response ever.....thx guyz!
#6 Oct 05 2007 at 7:25 AM Rating: Default
So you were spamming Searing Pain then... LOL.

I don't think I've ever used it.
#7 Oct 05 2007 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
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Inoperante wrote:
So you were spamming Searing Pain then... LOL.

I don't think I've ever used it.


Did you ever level with fire mage?
*shudders*

#8 Oct 05 2007 at 12:27 PM Rating: Good
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elite mob grinding with warriors / rogues where the lock tanks by searing pain spamming and kiting while warrior/rogue dps's and keeps crippling poison/hamstring up
#9 Oct 06 2007 at 1:05 AM Rating: Good
Sethy wrote:
Inoperante wrote:
So you were spamming Searing Pain then... LOL.

I don't think I've ever used it.


Did you ever level with fire mage?
*shudders*



Never fancied being a mage. Dunno why. I think it's a girl's class. ;o)
#10 Oct 06 2007 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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Inoperante wrote:

Never fancied being a mage. Dunno why. I think it's a girl's class. ;o)


Never fancied it myself either, I think its too hectic to play.
Just dont let my boy friend I leveled with hear you :p



Edited, Oct 6th 2007 5:18am by Sethy
#11 Oct 06 2007 at 2:08 AM Rating: Default
LOL.

Right you are.
#12 Oct 06 2007 at 6:14 AM Rating: Default
No.....never used Searing pain a single time!
#13 Oct 13 2007 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
Hehe, I used searing pain ONE TIME...and that was when we were at Murmur...the tank rushes in...and low and behold...SOMEHOW...we had one mob not killed on the side and it ran straight for the healer. Boy, was that fun.
#14 Oct 13 2007 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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Did anyone ask if he was healing his felguard with "Heath Funnel" ?

Probably the easiest way to pull off-targets away from the tank, and the scenario that came to my mind first. I don't think Cleave(Felguard) would give aggro to the warlock - so although it's a valuable piece of general advice - I think it's clearly not the answer as to why he is pulling aggro. Same goes for Anguish.
#15 Oct 13 2007 at 11:48 AM Rating: Good
I've encountered multiple mobs that were Shadow immune that I spammed Searing Pain on while renewing Immolate... I've had multiple occassions that a quick spell could be game-breaking in a duel, like a Pally at low health about to get a heal off. Pulling hate also has that use, like when your healer or your Succubus/Imp gets aggro.

I can't recall a single group I HAVEN'T used it!


Edited, Oct 13th 2007 3:48pm by Ignuus
#16 Oct 13 2007 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
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I've encountered multiple mobs that were Shadow Immune that I spammed Searing Pain on while renewing Immolate...


Shadow Immunity in a group is no excuse to spam Searing Pain. It is, however, a good excuse to resummon pets, make Healthstones/Soulstones and such. Seriously, having to rez a Warlock after every trash pull because of his obscene aggro in high-level instances (eg: the original topic) where the mobs can 5-shot you is a BAD idea, and I've never found a Shadow-immune boss.

The ONLY use of it in an instance is to get it off the healer, and CoR + Fear is a far better way of doing that. Maybe you MIGHT wish to pop it once or twice on a Fear-immune mob that's hitting your healer, but only enough to pull it onto you.
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