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Well, it's the druid forum. We're all going to think a druid is a good option.

Hybrid classes are great if you want to do different things and have options. Druids are highly efficient levelers (post-20) for solo play and versatile in groups, and for a PVP server, they're excellent escape artists (travel form, prowl, dash, root, etc.), which means you often won't have to fight unless it's on your terms. You won't be the master of any one trade (unless you're really good, which case you'll be master of all of them), but you can cast, heal, or melee as the mood strikes you.

But none of that means they're for you. We don't really know what you will find fun. I'd suggest trying a few different classes out and deciding for yourself.


Edited, Oct 4th 2007 6:32pm by teacake

Lock, you'll never die in solo pve. and you can kill characters 30 lvls above you. Pretty awesome, eh?

Truth to be told, there is no harder class for PvP then a druid I believe. Well, unless you want to spend your life in the Battlechicken form. I find it a lousy immitation of a Mage.
So, if you want to PvP a lot as I read you should pick something else.

Warriors are simple to play and they generally are tough opponents in PvP. Every class has its nemesis, of course, and Warrior's one is Mage. However, Warrior scales very much with gear, so good gear will increase your viability substantially. Also, Warriors are kings of group PvP. With a healer takin' care of their back (be it priest sham pal.. or druid ;]) they can really whip ***.

Mages are kings of solo PvP and crowd control. They are vulnerable to attacks, but their target is vulnerable to theirs as well (I mean, warriors deal a lot of damage and have a lot of health and defense. Mages have little health but deal shlt loads of damage).

Paladin is, on the other hand, somewhat boring yet the easiest class to play. You just pop up the right seal and bam bam bam heal bam bam ... They're good at pvp, if you got nerve to spend 10 minutes for a single fight.

If you like to be a *******, Rogues are cool as well. Sneak up on the dude, bam whoop splat, he's dead. Didn't know what hitem. Rogues with Combat Swords spec are this game's No.1 damage dealers, on par only with Mages. On the other hand, Mutilate Rogues are usually Stun Masters (they can field a 20+ second stunlock. This means they chain skills like Cheap Shot, Gouge, Blind, Kidney Shot so the enemy has no way to retaliate for over 20 seconds).

Hunters are pretty cool. It's the no.1 soloing class, because your pet tanks while you deal ranged damage. Effectively, you're a team of two all the time (after lvl 10 that is). Hunters specced in Marksmanship are also pvp kings, dealing sick damage from afar and being able to stop, snare, silence and stun their target with an appropriate skill.


So generally druids are fun, druids are tricky, druids do everything... but they can't do anything really well and the different parts of 'everything' are placed in different forms, meaning that whenever you wanna pvp, you have to switch forms a lot and mobilize all yer grey cells to win. It's very sophisticated at times.

Oh and druids start slow. Most classes get the most important toys fast - druids get theirs all over to level 70 (you can't be a good tank/melee dPS/ranged DPS/healer all from the very start eh?). It irritated me how... mediocre my druid was at lower levels. Priests heal 3x better, resurrect with no cooldown or reagent. Warriors laugh at my bear's clumsiness. Rogues laugh at my cat's damage output. Mages laugh at the balance spells as they do 2x the damage while casting spells of a different element than they are specced in. All these 'mediocrenesses' slowly wear off... but as you reach 40th level (Resto/Balance spec) or around level 60 for Feral specs.

Edited, Oct 4th 2007 8:41pm by XanNerull

I totally agree with the idea that it's a sophisticated class that requires smarts to play, but saying druids "can't do anything really well" is an exaggeration of the generally accepted understanding that as a hybrid class druids aren't going to be the very very very best at any one "pure" role.

But feral druids can definitely melee dps and tank 'really' well, moonkin druids can deal casting dps 'really' well, and resto druids can heal 'really' well.

Then on top of that druids of each spec make up for the fact that they're not the absolutely optimal healer or dps dealer with the flexibility to adjust strategy when alone or in a party, and when PvP or PvE.

Druid can do all their roles really well.
Just look up the 40 man druid raid taking down ony (this is pre-bc as well)

By saying 'really well' I didn't mean purely tanking of a bear, purely dpsing as a cat, purely ranged damage as doomkin or purely healing power of the walking plant.
Every parent class has a ton of other useful abilities that make them far better in various situations where simple tanking/dpsing/healing potential ain't enough.
Bears don't get Shield Wall or Recklessness or Execute or Hamstring.
Cats don't get Adrenaline Rush or Cloak of Shadows or Blind.
Trees don't get Mind Control or Power Word Shield or Mass Dispel.
Doomkins don't get Blink or Ice Block or Spellsteal or Teleports/Portals.

As simple as that. A warrior can do without shifting into any other form. A druid can't Bear-form the whole game.

And that is exactly what I meant, if you care to read my earlier posts carefully ;]. And that is what makes druids hard to play, compared to other classes.
We can't do as good as any parent class in its very own style. We have to reach for all our skills to be on par with them.
We aren't <enter any parent class> who in addition can turn into this that and that.
We possess main skills of <enter any parent class again> but have to use other abilities to be as successful as <what u chose>.

Edited, Oct 5th 2007 4:04pm by XanNerull

at roughly 30 or so you can tank, heal self while tanking and wonder where your rage when. strange thing is you do more damage while tanking in instances than as a kitty. I checked it out in sunken temple the other day.
tanking 5 pulls of 5-6. x dps.
kitty 5 pulls of 5-6 x-20%

it's an effect of omens, swipe and primal fury. if primal fury could increase the energy, it would be a different story. having a off healing class with you makes grinding/ questing allot easier and faster than if you had a tank or straight dps.
(you've only to pop out of bear to inveterate the healer/dps)

I hope that's an exaggeration.

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hrm, i see what you guys are saying. ive been watching pvp videos for druid though and they seem to kick ***, for instant this one video, guy in cat stealths up to a caster, does idk wtf, caster starts running he runs after finishes him off, gets out of form heals, and sees that theres 3 guys behind him about to wtf rape him and he goes into travel form and peace out. thats a nice get away. i think that i might go feral Druid.
do feral druids have any rage attacks to pull monsters out of mob, or would u have to use cat form or something like that?

Edited, Oct 6th 2007 1:16pm by antonz

What I like is a mage would rather have a moonkin around than another mage. Same for rogues and druids. That 5% crit aura makes us some friends.

I think people equate the classes because moonkins and mages are both magic blasters. I agree that the way in which they do it is quite different, but in the end it's magic blasters.

Hang in, it picks up with bear form. Then it really picks up at 20 with cat form.

For the first response - Mage is something pure. He nukes from distance and stays out of melee. He has tools for these goals that work well together. This makes sense. Doomkin on the other hand compensates the lack of "I'm outta here" and "you can't touch this" spells with... plate-like armor and chance on hit mana regen. To me, it's a bizarre combination of opposing tactics that I'm not yet interested in trying out.

For the second response, I was talking and thread author was talking bout 1on1 pvp. No 'other mages' were taken into consideration.

Edited, Oct 8th 2007 6:31am by XanNerull