I see a lot of combat rogues skipping riposte. I understand it's no good against warriors (who have the appropriate talents), but isn't it still killer against pallies and rogues?
Why is everyone skipping it?
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I skipped it forever, then tried it out.
I love it.
it hits as hard as SS for 10energy. Gives you 5% damage INGORE. Key point there. You basically are 5% more immune to attacks.
get it.
I love it.
it hits as hard as SS for 10energy. Gives you 5% damage INGORE. Key point there. You basically are 5% more immune to attacks.
get it.
Riposte is a great leveling and grinding talent, but most people at 70 ignore it because anybody in Arenas worth disarming will be immune, whether by talents (warriors) or by weapon chains (rogues), and most bosses are immune to disarms as well.
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I think that many combat rogues who are geared more towards pve/raiding rather than pvp have forgone this talent and the subsequent 5 points needed in 5% parry to access it..
For a rogue that spends their time raiding this talent is worthless, as if it is proccing, your not doing your job properly.
However imo, I DO think it is a worthwhile talent to invest in - in my case at least. a 10 energy ss that may disarm your opponent while grinding or pvping is very welcome indeed..
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Edited, Oct 4th 2007 1:58pm by saturize
For a rogue that spends their time raiding this talent is worthless, as if it is proccing, your not doing your job properly.
However imo, I DO think it is a worthwhile talent to invest in - in my case at least. a 10 energy ss that may disarm your opponent while grinding or pvping is very welcome indeed..
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Edited, Oct 4th 2007 1:58pm by saturize
Warchief Demea wrote:
...and most bosses are immune to disarms as well.
Right?
Oh yea, I forgot to mention my advice was from a pure PVP point of view.
PsiChi wrote:
Warchief Demea wrote:
...and most bosses are immune to disarms as well.
Right?
Believe it or not, when I join PuGs, I find myself tanking quite a bit. Of course, that's usually because the tank is undergeared, or just a scrub.
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So the question now becomes whether Riposte is a better decision (I'm 100% PVP) over improved kick AND vitality (which equates to about 400 HP for me).
Thoughts?
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 11:34am by Slyyth
Thoughts?
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 11:34am by Slyyth
Slyyth wrote:
So the question now becomes whether Riposte is a better decision (I'm 100% PVP) over improved kick AND vitality (which equates to about 400 stam for me).
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Do this.
I had wondered about nerves of steel. You see it proccing enough to make it worth while...eh?
riposte in pvp
pros:
almost free attack, disarm if you can
cons:
people worth disarming are prob. immune
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heres my standpoint, its STILL a ss for 10 energy.. **** the disarm its a good talent, especially if your parrying a melee dps while killing a healer, its killer burst combat desperately needs
and as of now, 2.3 will get rid of IMMUNE to disarm, and swap any immune disarm effects to 50% duration.. so then itll get even more use
but if your doin 2v2 arena, and a hunter is on the team against you... that pet will trigger tons of ripostes, and if its hunter/healer cs your team.. that could mean a fast death for the healer if you go for him first
some rogues are dual mongoose, so it helps vs thems.. most pve-arena kinda players dun got a chained weapon, enhance shamans dun chain often, and extra 5% melee damage avoidance isnt horrid
if you LOVE the other talents, go get em... but even ignoring the disarm effect it has a lot of strong points.... just like anything else rogue-wise... its all preference
pros:
almost free attack, disarm if you can
cons:
people worth disarming are prob. immune
-----------------
heres my standpoint, its STILL a ss for 10 energy.. **** the disarm its a good talent, especially if your parrying a melee dps while killing a healer, its killer burst combat desperately needs
and as of now, 2.3 will get rid of IMMUNE to disarm, and swap any immune disarm effects to 50% duration.. so then itll get even more use
but if your doin 2v2 arena, and a hunter is on the team against you... that pet will trigger tons of ripostes, and if its hunter/healer cs your team.. that could mean a fast death for the healer if you go for him first
some rogues are dual mongoose, so it helps vs thems.. most pve-arena kinda players dun got a chained weapon, enhance shamans dun chain often, and extra 5% melee damage avoidance isnt horrid
if you LOVE the other talents, go get em... but even ignoring the disarm effect it has a lot of strong points.... just like anything else rogue-wise... its all preference
Slyyth wrote:
I had wondered about nerves of steel. You see it proccing enough to make it worth while...eh?
Technically i don't see it. Those are the best kinds. But yea, it is useful when say you are in a 3v3 or 5v5 on a Priest, your whole team goes running but you are still hitting him.
I'll be picking up riposte again in 2.3, with the change to warriors. Despite being extremely useful against Enhancement shamans, Ret pallies, it is moderately useful against rogues and warriors even if they are immune, free dmg. Also, when I had it, I remember it helping against priests (shadowfiend) and warlocks (felguard/hunter) when you parry a pet attack, free 1.2k+ crit.
Thanks for the input everyone. I respec'd at lunch to this:
www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZG0EdrVt00Got
I really wanted Nerves of Steel, but since I'm still running BG's I thought Endurance would be more useful. Once I finish up my BG epics I'll likely respec and drop endurance for NoS.
www.wowhead.com/?talent=f0eboxZG0EdrVt00Got
I really wanted Nerves of Steel, but since I'm still running BG's I thought Endurance would be more useful. Once I finish up my BG epics I'll likely respec and drop endurance for NoS.
MYteddy wrote:
Slyyth wrote:
So the question now becomes whether Riposte is a better decision (I'm 100% PVP) over improved kick AND vitality (which equates to about 400 stam for me).
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Do this.
It is definitely not worth it to skip SnD, IMO.
I would take points out of vitality or aggression and get at least 2 points into Imp. SnD.
Mageoken wrote:
MYteddy wrote:
Slyyth wrote:
So the question now becomes whether Riposte is a better decision (I'm 100% PVP) over improved kick AND vitality (which equates to about 400 stam for me).
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Do this.
It is definitely not worth it to skip SnD, IMO.
I would take points out of vitality or aggression and get at least 2 points into Imp. SnD.
You really don't notice the difference.
The ONLY time it is handy is in 4dps, when you open and hit SnD and your target doesn't go down as planned...
But if that happens, odds are you are probably gonna loose that match anyway.
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It is definitely not worth it to skip SnD, IMO.
I don't think I'll miss it. Currently I only run BG's and 2v2. The fights are over too quick in those situations to spend the points there.
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