Need Arena AdviceFollow

My Armory link is in my sig. I'm teamed up with a shadow priest, and you'll quickly see that we're both PvE orientated. We're mostly in instance blues with a few purples between us, and our Arena rating isn't going to get us Gladiator gear any time soon. I'm working towards getting some BG gear (I'm going to buy the gloves tomorrow), but again, that's going to take time, so a change in strategy is our best bet for the moment.

As far as DPS/Healer teams, we do fine. CC the DPS, burn down the healer. Easy as pie.

It's the DPS/DPS teams that we have trouble with, especially when one of those DPS is a mage. The 3-minute mages mess us up something fierce. Enhancement shaman are also a problem, and we ran up against a rogue/rogue team (both Mutilate) that burned my partner down so quick, I could barely get any damage in before it was 2 on 1.

Any advice?

and don't forget your pvp trinkets--they are probably going to be the best chance of survival that you guys have. they are both going to try and kill your priest as soon as possible--

you initiate combat:

you are going to sap one of them if you can, if you can't you will probably cs him, do a 2pt finisher and blind the other guy and switch back to your original target. if they trinket out of your cc's then they are both going to try and kill your priest asap. there's not much that you can do to prevent this. you can shiv crippling poison onto them and try and kite them around (hoping that they do not cloak of shadows it off in the hopes they can prevent some of your SP's debuffs). kiting them around might be a possibility especially if your SP can get a fear off. this will be short lived, though, as i would probably get frustrated and remove your poison and vanish. you could try and repeat your kiting strategy when he reemerges, perhaps having to use one of your trinkets in order to break his ks-don't bother on cs, i'm sure you know why.

they initiate combat:

your priest is going to be instantly massed. because he is not stealthed...one of them probably won't even hold back to take care of the stealthed teammate (you), which is probably safer than both going all out on the priest. if this happens then you need to beat the rogue before your healer goes down or odds are you are done, because that rogue will most likely consume all of your health so you don't have any to kill the remaining rogue. if they both go all out on the priest then he is going to have to trinket and fear. the game then becomes sort of a coin flip imo. they might burn vanish leaving you a little in the + if you didn't come out of stealth but your healer will have wasted mana topping off again.

i'm sorry if this post isn't coherent. also, i'm not highly rated, this is just my understanding of how the fight would probably go--at least in my bracket anyway.

Your armory link shows that you have 7200 health and 4 resiliance. That's a BIG problem. Your wearing PVE gear in Arena, which just won't do. Spend the majority of your time online working on acquiring some battlegrounds gear, while you save up points for Arena gear.

In my PVP blues (Grand Marshal set) along with a few PVP epics, I have almost 10K health and around 225 resiliance. There's a big difference between PVE blues and PVP blues. As the saying goes, a dead rogue does no dps.

I'm not very serious about Arena, but it is something fun that I like to do to break up the monotony of the rep grind, gold grind, and all those other PvE grinds that we face at level 70.

Also, I doubt I'll get a new partner. The SP I'm paired with is a really nice guy, and we have fun together. It's more about goofing around (and possibly getting some nice epic weapons) than it is about seriously competing. Still, even though we're only casual Arena combatants, it's always more fun to win.

I've already started to grind honor for a BG gear set, and I'm getting the gloves as soon as I get home today. As far as socketing goes, I plan to do as much +stam as possible, but what about red sockets? Should I still put +AP in those?

You can re-gem? I thought gems were locked into gear permanently?

zOMGWTFHAX!

That's freaking awesome, especially since I've been meaning to replace the meta gem in my helm.

At low levels of arena, HP is waaay more important than reslience.

When you get your first set bonus of 35 resilience, then you can start socketing resilience, since you should have ~100+ by then.

Green, actually. So they count towards both blue and yellow on the socket bonuses and meta gem requirements.

I recently just re-socketed about 90% of my gems. After getting my S2 shoulders I was sitting at 10.7k unbuffed, but my AP was stupid low. I'm back down to just over 10k now with much higher AP/Crit and I notice a big difference.

*edit* main reason I had to put all new gems in was due to my meta also. I switched from the stamina/stun resist to the crit/snare/root resist. Another reason muti has been in the back of my mind, great meshing with fleet footed and the upcomming 15% run speed change in 2.3

Edited, Oct 4th 2007 9:58pm by Hatebrood

You learn something new every day. Unless it's today, in which case you learned two somethings new!

You need like, 91~ hit or something like that in PVP for your specials to land.


All the hit you really need.

Or that.

Yea I stray away from numbers.

I don't even remember how much hit you need for raiding, let alone how the attack tables etc work.