Hey, I have been away from the game for a long time and due to having a 1 year old and one more on the way in NOv.. (yay for me!) But my friend convinced me to play again so I jumped from my old server to his. He's up to 69 so I am looking to get closer to him quickly.
My question, is it better to do more int-spirit gear.. or more agi-stamina gear? I know that agi and stamina should give me more damage and longer health equals longer life.. well it should anyway. But prior to 35 I've only done int-spirit gear and I've been able to continue fighting almost non-stop this whole time. I'm a BM spec and rarely get hit myself anyway...
I know switched to more Agi-stamina gear and it seems odd running out of mana constantly after every 1-2 fights.. am I just not letting my auto shoot do what it needs to do.. or.. is it just the nature to always run out of mana and I should just get used to it and stop questioning it..
I know that when I get up to higher lvls more gear will be available that has a good amount of everything I need.. just questioning on the long road there.
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Well... where to start.
First of all int is all good and well, but you should definately replace all that gear with agi and Attack power gear, you are not a lock or mage. If any of that gear has int or spi, that just a bonus. Sure you may be able to attack for a long time without drinking, but you could get the same efect by killing faster. My advice is to read through the faq. This should answer alot of your questions. Now if you were a MM, int is a very good stat, because it transfers to attack power with 45% (3/3careful aim)of your int being converted to ap.
First of all int is all good and well, but you should definately replace all that gear with agi and Attack power gear, you are not a lock or mage. If any of that gear has int or spi, that just a bonus. Sure you may be able to attack for a long time without drinking, but you could get the same efect by killing faster. My advice is to read through the faq. This should answer alot of your questions. Now if you were a MM, int is a very good stat, because it transfers to attack power with 45% (3/3careful aim)of your int being converted to ap.
If you look at any 70 hunter gear, we'll use the Merciless Gladiator's Chain Armor just for example. All high level hunter gear will have stats similar to this:
+57 stamina
+31 agility
+17 intellect
+32 attack power
+21 critical strike
+21 resilience
this is just an example of course, some hunter gear will also have mana regeneration as well. At your level agility and stamina will be good stats to focus on, but dont forget your int either.
I happen to dissagre with this post. As a hunter you will burn up a lot of mana with your specialy shots, which obviously do more dmg than normal shots. If you dont put any int. in your gear you will go thru so much water and money to buy more water. Having int is exceptionaly important to a high level hunter. But like I said focous on stam and agi and throw in a bit of everything else. good luck!
+57 stamina
+31 agility
+17 intellect
+32 attack power
+21 critical strike
+21 resilience
this is just an example of course, some hunter gear will also have mana regeneration as well. At your level agility and stamina will be good stats to focus on, but dont forget your int either.
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First of all int is all good and well, but you should definately replace all that gear with agi and Attack power gear, you are not a lock or mage. If any of that gear has int or spi, that just a bonus. Sure you may be able to attack for a long time without drinking, but you could get the same efect by killing faster
I happen to dissagre with this post. As a hunter you will burn up a lot of mana with your specialy shots, which obviously do more dmg than normal shots. If you dont put any int. in your gear you will go thru so much water and money to buy more water. Having int is exceptionaly important to a high level hunter. But like I said focous on stam and agi and throw in a bit of everything else. good luck!
Athane:
Short answer is, PvE Levelling, its about AP and Agil. PvP, stamina comes into play more. However, the short answer is NOT entirely correct for all situations and all builds.
If you post in the general discussion here like this, you'll get wildly various answers that may or may not help you. The best thing you can do before hopping into the pool here is to read this:
http://www.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=5;mid=1121973706920619605;num=331;page=1
There's enough there to digest that you'll be reading it for a few hours, and working on the principals far longer. The thread is being updated, but the basic information in that thread will still get you FAR further than a gazillion posts, a thousand arguments, and a handful of really golden data that you'd get in any answers to this thread.
Gratz on the kid(s), now get to reading, then post up your conundrums.
Short answer is, PvE Levelling, its about AP and Agil. PvP, stamina comes into play more. However, the short answer is NOT entirely correct for all situations and all builds.
If you post in the general discussion here like this, you'll get wildly various answers that may or may not help you. The best thing you can do before hopping into the pool here is to read this:
http://www.allakhazam.com/db/class.html?wclass=5;mid=1121973706920619605;num=331;page=1
There's enough there to digest that you'll be reading it for a few hours, and working on the principals far longer. The thread is being updated, but the basic information in that thread will still get you FAR further than a gazillion posts, a thousand arguments, and a handful of really golden data that you'd get in any answers to this thread.
Gratz on the kid(s), now get to reading, then post up your conundrums.
Try looking for a mix of 'of the Monkey (Agi+ Stam) and 'of the Falcon (Agi + Int) items, or just go all out of the moneky items and get a few pure int items.
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thank you guys for your info, I will give that link a few times over if need be. I realize this stuff doesn't matter too much since gear changes so much while leveling fast.
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thank you guys for your info, I will give that link a few times over if need be. I realize this stuff doesn't matter too much since gear changes so much while leveling fast.
Thus why you stick to normal BOE Drop/AH greens that are Monkey or Falcon :P
Or if you get any upgrades from questlines or Instances go with those, but don't run an instance multiple times to get anything thats going to last you maybe 3-4 levels :)
Not much to give, although i don't agree with "avoid running instances for gear youll replace in a few levels." not completely at least.
at some points in the game i found it easier to find a couple decent players on and instance run for a few levels, in the right situation ( if your all friends and doing it for the same reason) leveling in a dungeon can be very fast. It just has to be done right.
Deffinatly pick up some more agil and stam. Agil is a hunter's bread and butter, no matter what spec. we get more out of agil alone than any other stat. On the flip side though, don't go all agil, mana is also important.
Might want to make sure your not spamming too many specials when grinding questing. Spamming specials will drop your target faster, but if your spending more time drinking than it would take to auto shoot a mob down, then, well, not quite as effecient.
and last but not least, if your going to stay BM for at least a little while, i would adivse
www.bigredkitty.blogspot.com
along with the post. the hunter on this blog has a endless pool of knowledge and experience to pull from, as well as some very helpfull tips, trainers and walkthroughs located on the right side of the blog.
Edit=bad link
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 3:30am by tarnikoth
at some points in the game i found it easier to find a couple decent players on and instance run for a few levels, in the right situation ( if your all friends and doing it for the same reason) leveling in a dungeon can be very fast. It just has to be done right.
Deffinatly pick up some more agil and stam. Agil is a hunter's bread and butter, no matter what spec. we get more out of agil alone than any other stat. On the flip side though, don't go all agil, mana is also important.
Might want to make sure your not spamming too many specials when grinding questing. Spamming specials will drop your target faster, but if your spending more time drinking than it would take to auto shoot a mob down, then, well, not quite as effecient.
and last but not least, if your going to stay BM for at least a little while, i would adivse
www.bigredkitty.blogspot.com
along with the post. the hunter on this blog has a endless pool of knowledge and experience to pull from, as well as some very helpfull tips, trainers and walkthroughs located on the right side of the blog.
Edit=bad link
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 3:30am by tarnikoth
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I happen to dissagre with this post. As a hunter you will burn up a lot of mana with your specialy shots, which obviously do more dmg than normal shots. If you dont put any int. in your gear you will go thru so much water and money to buy more water. Having int is exceptionaly important to a high level hunter. But like I said focous on stam and agi and throw in a bit of everything else. good luck!
Your allowed to disagree, this is a forum, and its where people debate. However, you will always loose this argument if your saying int, and spi are more important then agi, and ap. And in fact a lack of int is the easiest thing to make up for as a hunter. Trust me I know this, I was sitting at just over 6k mana buffed for a while, but I still was always in the top 3 in dps while raiding. Pots, elixers, AotV, mana oil ect ect.
Actually, a hunters auto shot is the most important shot that we have, which is why everyone makes such a big deal about shot rotations and not "clipping" your AS. Considering that most of your specials add X damage to your normal shot you will want agi and ap. Secondly he is BM specd. The more agi/ap that you have the more damage you and your pet will be doing. With that being said, int is still 3rd at best on a hunters priorities. Stam is the least of your worries as a hunter unless you pvp. If your doing things right you shouldnt be taking that much damage especially while leveling. End game it comes into play a lil more because of different encounters.
My advice to the op is to just continue to level, your almost 40 and will be replacing your gear with mail, so there is no need to really go buy up gear from the AH. As Caldone said look for of the monkey/falcon. If your still not sure about gear, there is an addon called hunter aep, which will rate gear based on the hunters key stats, and assign it a point value. I honestly cant say that I had to spend a fortune on water because I geared this way, if anything my grinding was more efficient because of faster kills.
Instances can be fun too, and it's always a good idea to get practice playing with others.
I've been levelling a warrior (51 now) and have found in general that there are very few quest items which are useful rewards. If you're getting experience towards your next level running a dungeon a second or third time, and there's a useful item in there, why NOT go ahead and run it that many times?
Where it gets silly is something like trying to complete the Scarlet Chain SET. (Particularly as a hunter, since it's not hunter gear!)
I don't know about anyone else, but I used Grimlok's Charge from Uldaman from about level 43 until 51, then I used the Ice Barbed Spear from the AV battleground from about 51 until 60. And on my warrior, I used a rare dagger from the Scarlet Monastery quest, and the rare sword from RFD, up until I replaced them at 49. So roughly 39/40-49. So it was more than just a few levels for those weapons.
Athane, I don't know what state things were at when you left, but don't forget that your pet gets some stamina when you do, and gets some attack power when you do. So Monkey gear with Agility (which gives AP) and Stamina helps your pet in two ways.
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 2:58pm by seroster
I've been levelling a warrior (51 now) and have found in general that there are very few quest items which are useful rewards. If you're getting experience towards your next level running a dungeon a second or third time, and there's a useful item in there, why NOT go ahead and run it that many times?
Where it gets silly is something like trying to complete the Scarlet Chain SET. (Particularly as a hunter, since it's not hunter gear!)
I don't know about anyone else, but I used Grimlok's Charge from Uldaman from about level 43 until 51, then I used the Ice Barbed Spear from the AV battleground from about 51 until 60. And on my warrior, I used a rare dagger from the Scarlet Monastery quest, and the rare sword from RFD, up until I replaced them at 49. So roughly 39/40-49. So it was more than just a few levels for those weapons.
Athane, I don't know what state things were at when you left, but don't forget that your pet gets some stamina when you do, and gets some attack power when you do. So Monkey gear with Agility (which gives AP) and Stamina helps your pet in two ways.
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 2:58pm by seroster
That's because you've waited until you were a high enough level to do the quests solo. If you attempt them at a lower level in a group, the quest reward items become desirable. Of course that requires lots of PUGs and the horrors associated therewith. ;)
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 1:22pm by ItsaGaAs
Edited, Oct 4th 2007 1:22pm by ItsaGaAs
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However, you will always loose this argument if your saying int, and spi are more important then agi, and ap
I was not debating this point, I agree compleetly. I was simply saying that the OP cannot compleetly dissregard INT. I have almost no use for SPI personally, so that point is mute.
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