I have just respecced resto for my guild (a few weeks ago actually) as they were a healer short for the 3rd Kara group. I am loving healing in Kara. It is a real challenge and it is a lot more fun than I thought it would be. We have cleared Kara twice with me as one of 2 main healers and another off-healer (spriest, elemental shammy - just in case).
Lately I have been having problem keeping groups alive on multi-mob pulls (especially in Arcatraz). I don't know if it is me or the PuGs but in a variety of instances (normal even, not heroic!) I have not been able to keep everyone alive. As soon as a clothie gets aggro and I need to heal them too I get healing aggro and end up needing to heal 3 people at once.
Clothies just get hit so hard, that I need to regrowth/rejuv/lifebloomX3 almost everytime to keep em alive. After that my tank is usually struggling at ~50% health. I then need to throw at least regrowths/rejuv/Swiftmend/LBx3. Then I get aggro and need to heal myself and if a clothie gets aggro they die.
Just as a reference: My lifebloom ticks at 3 stacks are 609/610 and my rejuv ticks for ~800. I cant get the link to my profile to work but the character name is Aldaran on Stormrage US. (I hope I logged in healing gear :P )
Any and all advice is wanted. Please help?
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Scholar
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sounds like your clothies need to back off and let the MT get more agro..
then again i've seen some tanks that didn't quite understand how agro works..
either way i'd say the fault does not lie with the healing, moreso with the healed. any chance you could discuss this with the raid leader without stepping on toes?
then again i've seen some tanks that didn't quite understand how agro works..
either way i'd say the fault does not lie with the healing, moreso with the healed. any chance you could discuss this with the raid leader without stepping on toes?
I'd just hit them with a Lifebloom or 2, maybe a rejuv and then just focus on the tank/assigned targets again. No point going out of your way to heal the clothie to 100% when the tank's about to retake aggro only to have the mob then and go and kill you, which I'm sure is worse for the raid than losing 1 dps.
Dont pull agro much myself healing, I have all points in resto tree. I always keep an eye on threat meter as I have noticed letting 2 many blooms pop (end their time) causes a raise in threat. Depending on mobs pulled if I do get agro from a lose one Barkskin and stomp till tank picks up. If I have agro whores that dont let tank get agro I hold off the healing to make sure I am well down the agro list or let the clothie die (they soon work out that they need to be more gentle).
The worse prob I have is with a Pali tank they really have no chance in getting agro back if they lose it and all have to allow them enough time to get it, keeping them up is no prob so just make sure agro whores learn not to over do DPS and it dont have to be clothies as a few Shammies I know can go straight to the top of the agro list with no problem at all.
Best advice I can give is get group to slow down a bit and you will go through instance faster and get agro whores to turn off DPS meters (the biggest cause of wipes invented)
The worse prob I have is with a Pali tank they really have no chance in getting agro back if they lose it and all have to allow them enough time to get it, keeping them up is no prob so just make sure agro whores learn not to over do DPS and it dont have to be clothies as a few Shammies I know can go straight to the top of the agro list with no problem at all.
Best advice I can give is get group to slow down a bit and you will go through instance faster and get agro whores to turn off DPS meters (the biggest cause of wipes invented)
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Sage
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I'm not 70 yet, so I haven't started raiding. I'm wondering though, isn't one of the problems with Lifebloom though that the final burst creates threat on your target and not the healer? If they already have high enough threat that they're getting aggro, that might not be the best thing. But then again, it might be a low enough amount that it wouldn't matter.
Lately I've been main healing our guild instance group. I recently got Lifebloom and I try to use it only on the tank and use Regrowth or Rejuv on our Mage when he pulls aggro.
Lately I've been main healing our guild instance group. I recently got Lifebloom and I try to use it only on the tank and use Regrowth or Rejuv on our Mage when he pulls aggro.
AnotherSquirrel wrote:
As soon as a clothie gets aggro and I need to heal them too I get healing aggro and end up needing to heal 3 people at once.
As others have said, this is the problem (and it's theirs, not yours). If DPS gets aggro cause they hit too hard, I say throw them a regrowth to keep them alive til the tank can get aggro back, but don't make them your priority. IMO a healer's priority is tank first, self second, everyone else last, and you spend mana in that order. I wouldn't heal any DPS so much I risked taking the aggro off them - as somebody else said, you have greater chances of surviving down a DPS than down your healer.
I've done very little healing with my druids, but used to have a lot of problems drawing healing aggro with my priest. Even on multi-mob pulls this shouldn't happen with a good tank and DPS who knows their job. I wait til the tank is at 70-80% before I throw out the first heal, and if DPS gets aggro, I'll throw off an HOT and then pretty much ignore them unless they're a.) really going to die and b.) I know I'll have enough mana to pull the tank through the fight if I heal them.
Edited, Oct 1st 2007 11:32am by teacake
Uh... guys he's having trouble in 5-mans not Kara.... and I would say that the DPS classes in said 5-mans aren't watching there threat meters. That is to say that you most likely are not the one to blame, and that you are PuGed with a bunch of idiots that think that they are soloing and the only way to get thru the instance s to unload all DPS all the time..... that or your tank blows....
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