Okay, I'm not asking which is better, and I know I should try Warlock out for myself which I plan to do, I have one at lvl 8 now and I'll be playing him later. Just wondering for the long term, don't wanna waste mytime. I'll tell you guys why I like my Hunter and I'd appreciate any feeback on whether I'd like to play Warlock long term or not.
1. I Like soloing. No I'm not anti-social, I just find that it's oftentimes hard due to my time constraints and weird hours to find a group, and finding a stable group at all would be near impossible. I like having a character that can solo which is why I like the "easy mode" classes.
2. I don't like melee, I like ranged combat. I don't wanna be a mage though because as said I solo a lot and they seem like they'd always be walking on the edge. I don't want to roll an ice spec mage either so I don't think that's a good route for me since they're the best solo mages I think.
3. I like pets, one because of the solo ability of course. Two because I think it's fun to have someone else that you can direct and will listen to whatever you say lol.
So those are what I can think of now, any opinions, warnings, even flames appreciated lol.
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i think you should've put this in the warlock forums,but to respond to your question:
i honestly think that most hunters also try warlocks and they like it.
I have a 70 hunter,and i want a warlock too,the fact that you have a companion makes the game alot more fun.
so if I were you I'd give it a go, level it to 20,then ask yourself this question: do i like it enough to get it to 70.
You have nothing to lose except a slot in your character list ;)
i honestly think that most hunters also try warlocks and they like it.
I have a 70 hunter,and i want a warlock too,the fact that you have a companion makes the game alot more fun.
so if I were you I'd give it a go, level it to 20,then ask yourself this question: do i like it enough to get it to 70.
You have nothing to lose except a slot in your character list ;)
I'd say yes. But other than the fact they both have pets, they aren't all that similar.
And if you are affliction and do the drain tanking thing the playstyle is very different (as you are tanking, not your pet). I originally went demo as I thought it was similar to beastmaster hunter, but they aren't. Affliction is best until the mid 50's (I respecced from affliction to demom at level 53- but 56 is probably best).
You don't have to drain tank as affliction, you can still use the voidwalker to tank. I just think vw is ugly :). But if you are affliction, you will pull aggro very easy. affliction does insane damage.
Edited, Sep 30th 2007 2:00pm by thrashering
And if you are affliction and do the drain tanking thing the playstyle is very different (as you are tanking, not your pet). I originally went demo as I thought it was similar to beastmaster hunter, but they aren't. Affliction is best until the mid 50's (I respecced from affliction to demom at level 53- but 56 is probably best).
You don't have to drain tank as affliction, you can still use the voidwalker to tank. I just think vw is ugly :). But if you are affliction, you will pull aggro very easy. affliction does insane damage.
Edited, Sep 30th 2007 2:00pm by thrashering
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I have a hunter and a warlock and enjoy both. They each allow you to use your pet or minion to tank or otherwise affect your targets. I like that versatility, myself. They both give you a sidekick to kick it with around town. ;) They both specialize in distance attacks. If these similarities include some of the things that make you love your hunter toon, go for it.
Warlocks do not enjoy the same armor as hunters, and they will never ever see anything better than cloth. They do have skills that help with that, but be aware that in melee you will not have the same survivability.
As a lock, you -can- use your spells both long-range and up-close-and-personal ... that pvp dead-zone between melee and range-attack areas is not a problem anymore, but those spells can and will be disrupted at close-range. Also, an upside to locks..when you run out of mana, a good wand will still do a lot of fast damage from afar without tapping those reserves.
Hope this helps. Weigh it with your own likes and dislikes. I hope you have as much fun with both characters as I do.
Warlocks do not enjoy the same armor as hunters, and they will never ever see anything better than cloth. They do have skills that help with that, but be aware that in melee you will not have the same survivability.
As a lock, you -can- use your spells both long-range and up-close-and-personal ... that pvp dead-zone between melee and range-attack areas is not a problem anymore, but those spells can and will be disrupted at close-range. Also, an upside to locks..when you run out of mana, a good wand will still do a lot of fast damage from afar without tapping those reserves.
Hope this helps. Weigh it with your own likes and dislikes. I hope you have as much fun with both characters as I do.
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Warlocks do not enjoy the same armor as hunters, and they will never ever see anything better than cloth. They do have skills that help with that, but be aware that in melee you will not have the same survivability.
Actually, Warlocks have alot more Melee survivability than a Hunter. Two Fears, Deathcoil, Voidsack, Succycharm and so on. And should all that fail, a Warlock can still do damage, and drain life, DoT, instabolt and so on. Sometimes, meleeing a Warlock is a bad idea. While a Hunter in melee range? About as dangerous as a druid in casterform, beating you with the staff. Granted, we also have some tools for escape, but if we fail, we are dead. If a Warlock fails to get back to range (or more to the point, get the enemy back to ranged) they can still win the fight.
Warlocks and Hunters are two very distinctly different classes. The only real similarity is that we both have pets. And even there, the similarity ends, due to the massive difference between our pet types.
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Warlocks seem like they almost have more survivability than Hunters, actually.
I haven't seen a 13k hp Hunter yet, but I've seen quite a few 13k hp Warlocks.
Even with the whole armor difference, Hunters don't have many - if any - abilities to lifesteal/drain/get life back from our pets.
But I would also argue against the idea that hunters in melee range are pretty much useless - 2/2 Savage Strikes means that you can actually up your Raptor Strike crit chance to 50%....and when you can Raptor Strike crit for 2k, it's not really all that bad.
Granted, we still won't be outputting that much DPS, but we sure as hell shouldn't be casterform droods whacking away with staves.
Both classes are lots of fun to play, though. But as for my answer to your actual question, I'll quote Shazzle:
I haven't seen a 13k hp Hunter yet, but I've seen quite a few 13k hp Warlocks.
Even with the whole armor difference, Hunters don't have many - if any - abilities to lifesteal/drain/get life back from our pets.
But I would also argue against the idea that hunters in melee range are pretty much useless - 2/2 Savage Strikes means that you can actually up your Raptor Strike crit chance to 50%....and when you can Raptor Strike crit for 2k, it's not really all that bad.
Granted, we still won't be outputting that much DPS, but we sure as hell shouldn't be casterform droods whacking away with staves.
Both classes are lots of fun to play, though. But as for my answer to your actual question, I'll quote Shazzle:
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so if I were you I'd give it a go, level it to 20,then ask yourself this question: do i like it enough to get it to 70.
The warlock class offers much more diversity than the hunter class. Hunters are fairly strait forward. We can do a lot more than just auto attack, but our options are still somewhat limited. Warlocks have a lot of spells. I have a hard time keeping track of them all. And how a warlock plays changes drastically depending on which talent tree you choose.
From what you posted I think there’s a good chance you would enjoy playing a warlock. Just don’t mistake the play style for that of a hunter. Also remember that your play style can change drastically as you level. When my warlock hit 40 I started drain tanking. Leveling became much easier at that point.
And don’t rule out a mage. If you play smart a mage has good survivability when solo. And a high level mage can solo things that a hunter couldn’t, thanks to their AoE spells. Of course I’m not one to talk. I love playing hunters but I’ve not yet managed to get a mage past level 40.
From what you posted I think there’s a good chance you would enjoy playing a warlock. Just don’t mistake the play style for that of a hunter. Also remember that your play style can change drastically as you level. When my warlock hit 40 I started drain tanking. Leveling became much easier at that point.
And don’t rule out a mage. If you play smart a mage has good survivability when solo. And a high level mage can solo things that a hunter couldn’t, thanks to their AoE spells. Of course I’m not one to talk. I love playing hunters but I’ve not yet managed to get a mage past level 40.
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I haven't seen a 13k hp Hunter yet, but I've seen quite a few 13k hp Warlocks
I can hit 13k raid buffed, but anyways back on topic.. I too rolled a lock, and i really like him. It took me a few levels to differentiate between the two, but once you get to level 20, you'll have a pretty good hang on it. So yes, i think if you enjoy hunters, you'd enjoy locks, little trickier to play, and they definately have more up there sleeves, but the similar aspect of having a companion.
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I haven't seen a 13k hp Hunter yet, but I've seen quite a few 13k hp Warlocks
I can hit 13k raid buffed, but anyways back on topic.. I too rolled a lock, and i really like him. It took me a few levels to differentiate between the two, but once you get to level 20, you'll have a pretty good hang on it. So yes, i think if you enjoy hunters, you'd enjoy locks, little trickier to play, and they definately have more up there sleeves, but the similar aspect of having a companion.
there are always exceptions. I 5v5 with a hunter who has 14k unbuffed....just freaky.
there are always exceptions. I 5v5 with a hunter who has 14k unbuffed....just freaky.
With what, 1.3k RAP?
With what, 1.3k RAP?
probably not a terrible amount more than that, no but he does suprising amounts of dps in there. he's usually second on a team of 4 dpsers.
I lvl'd my hunter up to 32, before I started my warlock and I haven't been back. I liked my hunter, and it was great fun, but for some reason I just kept grinding my lock. Shes at lvl 63 and I'll have my epic by this time tomorrow. Some diffs other than those metioned would be #1)You don't feed your minion. It will cost you a shard if they die, but those are free for you as well. #2). Your first mount is a summons, and only costs you about 50s. Your Epic mount will cost you about 230g. No riding training required. #3) the only weapon you may actually USE is your wand, but I only do when my mana is drained. Your stave and other equipment is carried for stats. Stats are a bit different also. I don't recall at the moment the way I went with my hunter, but locks push Stamina (cause we're squishy), and intel (cause we're casters). Some like more spirit, but there are other ways to build you mana, and I'd rather have the HP.
You may also notice more invites to dungeon groups. We have several roles in a group. Each minion has a different calling and thier all at your fingertips at any moment.= (no stable call for pet change). Crowd control, AoE, gag'ing casters, and you'll be a healers best friend for keeping a Soulstone cast on them, and if the Priest or Pali know how to use them properly, you'll spend less time doing the graveyard shuffle. These may not seem like great differences, but they really are. My lock can't track or play dead, I can't set traps or detect rogues, although those would all be nice to have at time. I love my Lock, but I'm sure that someday I'll go back to my hunter, but not before I end game my Warlock. Good lock, and yes, you should post your question on the Locl forum.
You may also notice more invites to dungeon groups. We have several roles in a group. Each minion has a different calling and thier all at your fingertips at any moment.= (no stable call for pet change). Crowd control, AoE, gag'ing casters, and you'll be a healers best friend for keeping a Soulstone cast on them, and if the Priest or Pali know how to use them properly, you'll spend less time doing the graveyard shuffle. These may not seem like great differences, but they really are. My lock can't track or play dead, I can't set traps or detect rogues, although those would all be nice to have at time. I love my Lock, but I'm sure that someday I'll go back to my hunter, but not before I end game my Warlock. Good lock, and yes, you should post your question on the Locl forum.
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#1)You don't feed your minion. It will cost you a shard if they die, but those are free for you as well.
I fish so much that I always have 20 stacks (stacks not pieces) of trouts saved someplace for pet food. On the other hand I find soul draining annoying waste of time in instances and I farm shards exclusively when I have less than 40, and I hate farming shards.
So it all depends.
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#2). Your first mount is a summons, and only costs you about 50s. Your Epic mount will cost you about 230g. No riding training required.
My epic mount costed me 750g and 5 levels to gather half decent group to do DM with. I ended doing Scholo alone with level 65 mage friend.
Buying epic mount for my hunter the moment she dinged 60 seemed ridiculously easy compared.
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#3) the only weapon you may actually USE is your wand, but I only do when my mana is drained. Your stave and other equipment is carried for stats.
The only weapon I use on hunter is a bow and its very comparable to casting spells - press 2,3,4,3,3,3 is very alike press 1,2,3,4,4,4.
Other than that I use axes, swords, polearms, daggers for stats only too on my hunter. Since I change them a lot I havent managed to raise my skills on them all yet.... I usually miss if it happens I have to try to wingclip.
And that is the main difference I feel when I switch from lock to hunter - keeping range on lock is not essential, on hunter if I get to melee range and my trap is on CD I feel sort of helpless.
Hunter pets are much more powerful than warlock ones, tho not so versatile. Being demo lock for long shows I have tendency to rely on personal tanks - the more powerful the better, so I dont mind that aspect.
I hate seduce, I love trapping.
I hate fear, I love FD.
I even like playing hunter in instances much better (assuming I have enough space to keep the range), I can CC and DPS just as good as on my warlock if not even better.
I just dont have people ordering me around and arguing that they want imp when I think sacced succy is better or offtanking with felguard that kills faster versus seducing that lowers my dps in plain normal runs.
I dont know, it might change at 70 but so far I have much more fun on my 63 hunter than I almost ever had on my 70 lock.
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there are always exceptions. I 5v5 with a hunter who has 14k unbuffed....just freaky.
With what, 1.3k RAP?
With what, 1.3k RAP?
Simply because it isnt needed, and 12k+hp unbuffed is.
I've got a 51st Warlock alt. Leveling it seemed like it was much faster than leveling my Hunter to 51st. Of course, I knew a lot more about the game while playing my Lock, while my Hunter was my first character and I fumbled about a lot figuring out where to hunt what, quests, etc. But an Affliction Lock, if it doesn't level faster than a Hunter, at least feels like it due to having zero down time. The Hunter does need to sit and drink every so often, while the Lock just drain tanks all day long with no break ever needed.
I leveled a lock to 60 to partner with a friend.
Now the lock just sits there. I find the play style too mechanical on a lock.
Now the lock just sits there. I find the play style too mechanical on a lock.
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