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#1 Sep 30 2007 at 12:09 AM Rating: Decent
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So I was looking through the warrior and shaman forums on here since I have a 70 of each of those classes and I came across and pre-Kara gear list for each class and spec (except for enhance shaman) and I was wondering if anybody had the inclination to try and do something like that for rogues.

I know people have posted certain minimum stat levels to look for, but specific pieces of gear and where they drop would probably be immensely helpful.

If anybody has the time and desire to do it I know a lot of people would find it very helpful.

And before you say why don't I do one myself, I would, but I don't know exactly which combination of stats to look for and the ratios for hit and crit rating. Although I may take a stab at one anyway and let you guys give your input on the pieces I put on it.
#2 Sep 30 2007 at 3:42 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd be happy to do something to that effect, but it'll have to wait until this round of midterms is over.
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#3 Sep 30 2007 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Sounds great Demea. I'd be happy to help. I seem to be pretty efficient at using the search features on various WoW websites and weeding out anything that drops in Kara or beyond.

If you need any help just send me a PM.

Edited: I do not, however, seem to be efficient at posting my first message with no spelling/grammatical errors.

Edited, Sep 30th 2007 9:15pm by Bigdaddyjug
#4 Sep 30 2007 at 5:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Ya know this sounds like a really good idea. One thing I would suggest though is making sure the gear is obtainable with minimum help. I know I hate grouping, which is why I play a rogue in the first place, and I just dont like depending on people because of the fatal "human error". GL with this, and I hope to see it soonin sticky form :P

PS: I feel you on the midterms demea. I finished mine just last week.
#5 Sep 30 2007 at 7:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Ya know this sounds like a really good idea. One thing I would suggest though is making sure the gear is obtainable with minimum help. I know I hate grouping, which is why I play a rogue in the first place, and I just dont like depending on people because of the fatal "human error". GL with this, and I hope to see it soonin sticky form :P

PS: I feel you on the midterms demea. I finished mine just last week.


I don't understand your logic; the purpose of the list being discussed is to be prepared for raiding (the epitome of "grouping" and given the number of people in attendance, the highest risk for "human error")...there is no point in having a "no help required" list for such things >_>
#6 Sep 30 2007 at 7:29 PM Rating: Decent
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Norellicus wrote:

I don't understand your logic; the purpose of the list being discussed is to be prepared for raiding (the epitome of "grouping" and given the number of people in attendance, the highest risk for "human error")...there is no point in having a "no help required" list for such things >_>


Ok, well it said "Pre-Kara gear list" so inevitably I figured it would be gear that didn't require 100 runs, a 40-man or whatever such as kara (why would you run through kara to gear for pre-kara?). I didnt say no help required, I said minimum meaning nothing more that maybe a 10-man with guildmates to help minimize that human error.

Edited, Sep 30th 2007 10:29pm by Untoucheable
#7 Sep 30 2007 at 8:06 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unfortunately, if you really want to gear up for Kara, you're going to have to do group quests and instances. You can't properly gear up with just solo quest rewards.
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#8 Sep 30 2007 at 8:13 PM Rating: Decent
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Let me be more specific in what I mean.

I want a list of gear where if you have 1 piece on the list for each equipment slot you will be ready to go into Kara.

Grandmother Baelnic wrote an excellent thread on the shaman page for ele and resto shamans.

There is also an excellent thread on the warrior forums written by Xordon I believe.

The basis for each of these lists is to give you 3-5 options for each equipment slot, to the effect that if you have an item on the list for each slot, you are ready to do Kara.

I know there is a lot of gear out there in 5-mans and heroics that is good for rogues, and other than one of those AEP calculators it can be very difficult to know which one is better than another.
#9 Sep 30 2007 at 8:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Thats allways the case. It sucks, but if you could get group grade gear from soloing what would be the point of soloing?

Slightly off-topic here, but I read somewhere that green drops in WotLK would be equivalent to Tier 4 drops. Sounds overpowered to me, but blizz is gonna make their usual mishaps and mistakes and nearly break the game.

Edit- Im not the fastest typer, this was in response to demea

Edited, Sep 30th 2007 11:15pm by Untoucheable
#10 Sep 30 2007 at 8:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Untoucheable wrote:


Slightly off-topic here, but I read somewhere that green drops in WotLK would be equivalent to Tier 4 drops. Sounds overpowered to me, but blizz is gonna make their usual mishaps and mistakes and nearly break the game.


Edited, Sep 30th 2007 11:15pm by Untoucheable


I take it you didn't play pre-BC. Epic ownage raid gear was easily replaced by low 60 questing outland greens.
#11 Sep 30 2007 at 8:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh yes, I did play pre BC, but I didnt have any toons above 20 because I messed around too much. Its just that they are amping the game way too fast IMHO.
#12 Sep 30 2007 at 9:18 PM Rating: Decent
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Yeah I really don't want this expansion out so soon.
#13 Sep 30 2007 at 9:55 PM Rating: Excellent
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Here's a preliminary list, not in any particular order, feel free to use any/all of it as you see fit. By all means this isn't an inclusive list, but would work for basic Kara requirements(not including weapons).

Helm –
Helm of the Claw - Quested
Stealther’s Helm of Second Sight - Quested
Deathblow X11 Goggles(Requires Eng) - Crafted(BoP)
Cobrascale Hood - Crafted(BoE)

Neck –
Jagged Bark Pendant - Drop(Botanica)
Choker of Vile Intent - 25 Heroic Badge Reward
Adamantine Chain of the Unbroken - Drop(Heroic Slave Pens)

Shoulders –
Shoulderpads of Assassination - Drop(Sethekk Halls)
Wastewalker Shoulderpads - Drop(Heroic Auchenai Crypts)
Sun-Gilded Shouldercaps - Drop(Black Morass)

Cloak –
Cloak of the Craft - World Drop(BoE)
Auchenai Death Shroud - Drop(Heroic Auchenai Crypts)
Blood Knight War Cloak - 25 Heroic Badge Reward

Chest –
Tunic of Assassination - Drop(Mechanar)
Wasterwalker Tunic - Drop(Heroic Blood Furnace)
Primalstrike Vest - Crafted(BoP)

Bracers –
Shackles of Quagmirran - Drop(Heroic Slave Pens)
Shard-Bound Bracers - Rep Reward(Ogri'la)
Primalstrike Bracers - Crafted(BoP)

Gloves –
Handgrips of Assassination - Drop(Black Morass)
Wastewalker Gloves - Drop(Shattered Halls)
Cobrascale Gloves - Crafted(BoE)

Belt –
Primalstrike Belt - Crafted(BoP)
Dunewind Sash - Drop(Heroic Underbog)
Naaru Belt of Precision - Quested

Leggings –
Leggings of Assassination - Drop(Shadow Labs)
Wastewalker Leggings - Drop(Heroic Mana Tombs)
Midnight Leggaurds - Drop(Heroic Slave Pens)

Boots –
The Master’s Treads - World Drop(BoE)
Boots of the Unjust - Drop(Heroic Auchenai Crypts)
Silent-Strider Kneeboots - Drop(Heroic Ramparts)

Rings –
Lightwarden’s Band - Rep Reward(Aldor)
Ravenclaw Band - Drop(Sethekk Halls)
Kaylaan’s Signet - Quested
Slayer’s Mark of Redemption - Quested
Pathfinder’s Band - World Drop(BoE)
Delicate Eternium Ring - Crafted(BoE)
Longstrider’s Loop - Drop(Mana Tombs)
Band of Anguish - Quested

Trinkets –
Hourglass of the Unraveller - Drop(Black Morass)
Bladefist’s Breadth - Quested
Ancient Draenei War Talisman - Quested
Terrokar Tablet of Precision - Quested
Icon of Unyielding Courage - Drop(Heroic Blood Furnace)
Drake Fang Talisman - Drop(Black Wing Lair)
Bloodlust Brooch - 41 Heroic Badge Reward
Abacus of Violent Odds - Drop(Mechanar)
Figurine - Nightseye Panther - Crafted(BoP)
Core of Ar'kelos - Quested

Range –
Veteran’s Musket/Marksman's Bow - Rep Reward(Honor Hold/Thrallmar)
Skyfire Hawk-Bow - Drop(Shattered Halls)
Ornate Khorium Rifle - Crafted(BoE)















Edited, Oct 1st 2007 1:29am by mahlerite

Edited, Oct 1st 2007 2:35pm by mahlerite
#14 Sep 30 2007 at 10:21 PM Rating: Good
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@mahlerite

Nicely done post. Rate up.

But jesus, you're color choices made my eyes bleed.
#15 Oct 01 2007 at 1:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Good work, mahlerite.

I suggest to add the Fel Leather set. Quite good -especially for increasing hit rating- and easy to get (not-too-expensive BoE).









#16 Oct 01 2007 at 2:54 AM Rating: Good
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excellent list mahlrite, im missing two things tho.

The PVP rewards are sometimes better and (imho) somewhat easier to get. They're not on the list.

Also the necklace of the deep could be an addon for the neck list. I'm using it with 2 X 8 Agility gem giving it a total of 37 agi, 20 stam and +3 hit around the same as the value of the jagged bark pendant. Plus it's crafted so should be easy to obtain.

Rated up.

Edited, Oct 1st 2007 2:08pm by samperor
#17 Oct 01 2007 at 6:04 AM Rating: Good
Great post Mahlerite. A couple of other suggestions.

Traitor's Noose. http://wow.allakhazam.com/item.html?witem=27546
Drops off of first boss in heroic SP. 18stam, 12 hit, 18 crit, 38 AP

Socrethar's Girdle(Pretty sure this is Scryers only). http://thottbot.com/i30372
Quest item. 23 agi, 21 stam, 20 hit, 48 AP



Edit: lol....I forgot about the cloak I'm wearing.
Cloak of the Inciter. 15 sta, 16 hit, 18 crit, 30 AP
Drops off of the 2nd boss in reg/heroic SLabs.

Edited, Oct 1st 2007 9:09am by Salwrathis
#18 Oct 01 2007 at 7:07 AM Rating: Good
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Wow, thanks Mahl. Can we get somebody with a premium membership to repost that with the pop up boxes? I'll make the post with all the links and PM it if one of you premium mebers will repost it.
#19 Oct 01 2007 at 7:30 AM Rating: Decent
Shouldnt forget this http://thottbot.com/i28553
#20 Oct 01 2007 at 9:25 AM Rating: Excellent
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I'll add a few items to that list once I get home.

Rate-ups though. Excellent work.
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#21 Oct 01 2007 at 9:36 AM Rating: Decent
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Great list, just one note, the Choker of Vile Intent is 25 Badges of Honor, not 41.
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