FD DrinkingFollow

I've been meaning to ask this for a while but, about a month or 2 ago I found that I couldn't FD and drink during some of the Kara fights anymore. I could usually drink twice during prince but lately, I can't seem to escape combat no matter how many times I FD.

Anyone else know about this?

Still works for Opera: R&J fight.

Hehe, I'm just a stingy ******* :p

Yeah, I'm gonna start thinking about buying those potions although the coming changes to aspect of viper might not make that necessary :). Something about a major increase in MP5 when you are almost drained.

Will do :)

Heh, yup, i got both maxed out too!

A lot of fights?

Ok, you give one example where it's an effective tactic. But, for that one example, there are numerous others where it's not a very good tactic. As I said before, in my opinion, gimping dps to skimp on consumables is not a good trade-off. If you want to raid, be prepared to pay the cost. It's not fair to the 24 other people in the group to be unprepared.

Sure, if circumstance allows you a pause in combat to drink, then by all means, do it. But, it's not going to happen very often, so bring pots and be prepared.

Come on, if we're going to be sticklers on raid consumables, there is no reason for the hunter not to get fel mana pots. All of the benefit, none of the downside for hunters. Yeah, they're more expensive, but more reliable.

As far as FD and drinking goes, this is a viable and reliable way to get mana for certain fights, as have been pointed out (Romulo and Julein, Prince). Hunters can FD and drink during the BREAKS between phases of the fight. As long as it's during a break, it should be fine, and sometimes more reliable than a super mana pot (if that's what you're carrying).

Heh, it will get better, especially when you get 2-3 70's all able to do the daily quests, which you can get 60g+ from each day per toon.

you have to be doing something wrong. with your lvl and how low your LW (194 where skinning is 360) is i would drop it and pick up enchanting run dm about 6 times then sfk about 10-15 times then sm for long time. just for the fact you can de up over 50 i think i stoped at 55 cause i had the mats to keep going. in sm armory cath lib all the blues de into rad shards theres at least 6-10 g depending on market and if you can get old world drops 50+ de into vision dust they go for 2g each on my server. even only being lvl 44 main i can make about 100 g if i buy low de and sell them in about 1 week. i normaly pay 1.5g for lvl 41+ items in ah or bid that high sometimes higher like 55+ i'll go up to 2g. for lvling your ench go to thottbot.com mouse over profesions click on echanting then when it loads click coments, scroll down to big yellow post tells you easiest way to get to 250 after that starts getting more costly but you can farm your own mats. where i had to buy de use some and sell some so i can buy more to de.

Edited, Oct 3rd 2007 11:45am by punkspider

very few fights do I drink on. If all adds are dead I drink when moroes vanishes even if it's just for 5 seconds that's alot of mana really. on nightbane when he is flying just before and just after the adds I drop and drink.

lurker is another good example as mentioned above. if he's still diving and the adds are dead then I will drink. this is especially important on this fight if you have to rez your pet a couple times :(

notice though that at no time am I drinking when there is something to be shot. I switch to viper when necessary and I rarely go to a raid with less than about 30 mana pots.

That's pretty much what I do Herbnosis.

I USED to play almost every night. I USED to have the spare time to farm and gather.

Then I got a life... and WoW hath suffered mightily.

(Edit: spelling)

Edited, Oct 3rd 2007 10:04am by sloshot

Hardly...

I understand the limitations of the playtime. You can see that I have done exactly as you say, plan and effectively use the time I have. What I'm tired of is everyone assuming that there is only one way to play the game, that what works for YOU works for everyone else.

My gentle/fun initial commentary was directed at those saying that you MUST use expensive potions and such rather than what the OP was talking about. Not everyone can afford such luxuries.

Then I get bashed for letting one of my professions die off and sundry other insinuations that I'm an idiot and should be rich by now, and I explained that issue and it involved time, no QQ'ing, just facts.

Then I get some good advice, which I noted I was already heeding and made a pithy comment for fun.

Now I stand accused of crying and moaning. I am, in fact, not doing either nor was that my intent. I am not a victim nor am I stating that I'm upset by my guildies teasing me, I take it in stride with my limiations known to them and myself. In FACT, I am rectifying the problem by slowly saving up and buying my own mount (I can note that several guildies have offered to loan or outright buy the mount for me but I've refused- QQ'ers would've taken the offers). Combined with I still RUN my guildies through lower level instances. I still run the higher level stuff and continue to play and learn to play, not just for my benefit but that of my guildies.

If any of that sounds like a person who is used to QQ'ing to gain serious sympathy tossing tantrums to get their way, then we have different definitions of what that kind of person is.

My style of posting tends to be more lighthearted and giving the benefit of the doubt to people.

I understand that most players really like their way of playing and want everyone to play like them, however, that flys in the face of truth that we can't all play the same way because we aren't all the same people with the same talents, thoughts and skills.

So, if FD drinking works well for one player, and several others chime in to say "Well, this works well for me" rather than "You idiot, do THIS". Which do you think nets a better response for the community.

I appreciated Herbnosis's post. He tried to assist me. Everything else was negativity that didn't produce much except more text from me.

What I would like to see is fewer 'serious' accusational posts aimed at a person and more that address different options because therein lies the truth. It's the options in the game that give it the diversity and appeal to all levels and kinds of players. From the die hard 24/7 folks to the casual folks.

It would be great if more folks make an attempt to read people's posts with a grain of salt, and assume the BEST you can about what the person is saying, not the worst. Look at context and intent. If they are tossing jokes or wry humor around, they are likely not serious about much else in the post beyond some poignant observations. If they are using terms like, L2P, QQ, and sundry other insultive forms subtle or not, then it takes on a more serious tone and doesn't help anything much. In fact, it tends to torque them off and nobody really learns much from forum wars...

Perhaps you havn't been a bystander in this situation in order to understand where people's hostility comes from but alot of folks have and are tired of others not pulling their weight.

That same hunter who says "it works fine for me" probably discounts the fact that he is consistantly at 60% of the other hunters DPS and just refuses to believe that there is anything wrong with the way he plays.

I'll be the first to say that one should play how they see fit but they should also not complain about me being elitist when I don't want to be grouped with them. In WoW's high end content bring your A game or go find another game because I'm not spending my time farming so that someone unwilling to perform can give me needless repair bills and consumable expense,