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New Talent replacing the 2 Handed weapons one - Elemental Focus: Puts you in a "focused state" after landing a melee critical strike, reducing the mana cost of your next Shock spell by 60%
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Scholar
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oops thanks 8) Im at work and have to keep minimizing the screen when anyone walks by.
Humble thyself before the elementals' might, I bring much wisdom granted to me in a vision sent from the wise ancestors. And in the vision I saw...
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•Elemental Focus will now reduce the mana cost of your next two damage spells by 40%.
PTR Report:
The elemental changes hurt. Except that if things stay the way they are, this is actually a massive buff, even with the huge coefficient loss... the problem is that the way the changes were implemented look buggy, but if they stay the same it's huge.
1) Lightning Overload only reduces the _base_ damage of the spell when it procs.
For a quick demonstration of why this is significant, if you have +1000 DMG and lob off a Lightning Bolt in 2.2, it hits for 603 (base) + 857 (+DMG coefficient of .857) = 1460 before things like Convection or Stormstrike or whatever are factored in. In 2.3, this drops to 603 + 714 (+DMG coefficent of 714) = 1317, which hurts.
Now, Lightning Overload. The talent has changed to quadruple the chance to proc, but the procs are supposed to do half damage... so a LO proc would do (603 + 714) / 2 = 658.5 damage. Except that's not how it's working. LO is only reducing the _base_ damage, so you actually get a LO proc at (603) / 2 + 714 = 1015.5 damage dealt.
This is huge. The more +DMG you have the more effective it'll be, but it means that LO is going to be doing enormous amounts of damage... unless this is a bug and is fixed, which is possible.
2) Lightning Overload procs off itself.
Not much more to say on this one, actually. Much like Sword Specialization and Windfury Totem for Rogues/Warriors, Lightning Overload can proc off itself... thus netting you 3 Lightning Bolts 4% of the time, and 4 Lightning Bolts .8% of the time. It's a fairly significant boost in damage, and a huge boost in potential burst damage... for no threat in PvE, and insta-gib potential in PvP.
The elemental changes hurt. Except that if things stay the way they are, this is actually a massive buff, even with the huge coefficient loss... the problem is that the way the changes were implemented look buggy, but if they stay the same it's huge.
1) Lightning Overload only reduces the _base_ damage of the spell when it procs.
For a quick demonstration of why this is significant, if you have +1000 DMG and lob off a Lightning Bolt in 2.2, it hits for 603 (base) + 857 (+DMG coefficient of .857) = 1460 before things like Convection or Stormstrike or whatever are factored in. In 2.3, this drops to 603 + 714 (+DMG coefficent of 714) = 1317, which hurts.
Now, Lightning Overload. The talent has changed to quadruple the chance to proc, but the procs are supposed to do half damage... so a LO proc would do (603 + 714) / 2 = 658.5 damage. Except that's not how it's working. LO is only reducing the _base_ damage, so you actually get a LO proc at (603) / 2 + 714 = 1015.5 damage dealt.
This is huge. The more +DMG you have the more effective it'll be, but it means that LO is going to be doing enormous amounts of damage... unless this is a bug and is fixed, which is possible.
2) Lightning Overload procs off itself.
Not much more to say on this one, actually. Much like Sword Specialization and Windfury Totem for Rogues/Warriors, Lightning Overload can proc off itself... thus netting you 3 Lightning Bolts 4% of the time, and 4 Lightning Bolts .8% of the time. It's a fairly significant boost in damage, and a huge boost in potential burst damage... for no threat in PvE, and insta-gib potential in PvP.
RPZip wrote:
PTR Report:
The elemental changes hurt. Except that if things stay the way they are, this is actually a massive buff, even with the huge coefficient loss... the problem is that the way the changes were implemented look buggy, but if they stay the same it's huge.
1) Lightning Overload only reduces the _base_ damage of the spell when it procs.
For a quick demonstration of why this is significant, if you have +1000 DMG and lob off a Lightning Bolt in 2.2, it hits for 603 (base) + 857 (+DMG coefficient of .857) = 1460 before things like Convection or Stormstrike or whatever are factored in. In 2.3, this drops to 603 + 714 (+DMG coefficent of 714) = 1317, which hurts.
Now, Lightning Overload. The talent has changed to quadruple the chance to proc, but the procs are supposed to do half damage... so a LO proc would do (603 + 714) / 2 = 658.5 damage. Except that's not how it's working. LO is only reducing the _base_ damage, so you actually get a LO proc at (603) / 2 + 714 = 1015.5 damage dealt.
This is huge. The more +DMG you have the more effective it'll be, but it means that LO is going to be doing enormous amounts of damage... unless this is a bug and is fixed, which is possible.
2) Lightning Overload procs off itself.
Not much more to say on this one, actually. Much like Sword Specialization and Windfury Totem for Rogues/Warriors, Lightning Overload can proc off itself... thus netting you 3 Lightning Bolts 4% of the time, and 4 Lightning Bolts .8% of the time. It's a fairly significant boost in damage, and a huge boost in potential burst damage... for no threat in PvE, and insta-gib potential in PvP.
The elemental changes hurt. Except that if things stay the way they are, this is actually a massive buff, even with the huge coefficient loss... the problem is that the way the changes were implemented look buggy, but if they stay the same it's huge.
1) Lightning Overload only reduces the _base_ damage of the spell when it procs.
For a quick demonstration of why this is significant, if you have +1000 DMG and lob off a Lightning Bolt in 2.2, it hits for 603 (base) + 857 (+DMG coefficient of .857) = 1460 before things like Convection or Stormstrike or whatever are factored in. In 2.3, this drops to 603 + 714 (+DMG coefficent of 714) = 1317, which hurts.
Now, Lightning Overload. The talent has changed to quadruple the chance to proc, but the procs are supposed to do half damage... so a LO proc would do (603 + 714) / 2 = 658.5 damage. Except that's not how it's working. LO is only reducing the _base_ damage, so you actually get a LO proc at (603) / 2 + 714 = 1015.5 damage dealt.
This is huge. The more +DMG you have the more effective it'll be, but it means that LO is going to be doing enormous amounts of damage... unless this is a bug and is fixed, which is possible.
2) Lightning Overload procs off itself.
Not much more to say on this one, actually. Much like Sword Specialization and Windfury Totem for Rogues/Warriors, Lightning Overload can proc off itself... thus netting you 3 Lightning Bolts 4% of the time, and 4 Lightning Bolts .8% of the time. It's a fairly significant boost in damage, and a huge boost in potential burst damage... for no threat in PvE, and insta-gib potential in PvP.
Are you #$%@ing serious? LO will now proc...off itself? Wow Zip, you do your research. That is insane! Maybe I'll respec from Resto to Ele...nah...
It may be fixed before the patch goes live, but I had some fun playing around on a guildie's elemental shaman on the PTR and it's definitely proccing off itself.
I had a Elemental Focus'd one just _annihilate_ someone in a duel with a 4x proc. That was rather fun.
I had a Elemental Focus'd one just _annihilate_ someone in a duel with a 4x proc. That was rather fun.
RPZip wrote:
It may be fixed before the patch goes live, but I had some fun playing around on a guildie's elemental shaman on the PTR and it's definitely proccing off itself.
I had a Elemental Focus'd one just _annihilate_ someone in a duel with a 4x proc. That was rather fun.
I had a Elemental Focus'd one just _annihilate_ someone in a duel with a 4x proc. That was rather fun.
Lightning bolt triple/quadruple crit? Heresy!
LO is bugged, however, in that it sometimes consumes and doesn't always proc CC charges. Sadface, hopefully it's fixed soon and doesn't go unchanged.
Scholar
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I'm nervous about the changes. I messed around on the PTR a bit yesterday and was not impressed with the "increased" LO procs compared to my lower base damage. I'm gonna do a guild ZA run this weekend, so I'll be able to get a better idea as to whether or not I like the changes. However, Mana Spring and Water Shield kick ***.
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