Threat reducing possibilitiesFollow

This is more of a band-aid than a solution, but I was wondering if any of these items would be useful for the threat ***** that is the ret paladin.

Any thoughts?

Grace of Earth = -650 threat
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Use: Reduces your threat to enemy targets within 30 yards, making them less likely to attack you.
Cooldown: 5 min

Muck-Covered Drape = -473 threat
Binds when picked up
Back
66 Armor
+30 Stamina
Requires Level 64
Requires Sporeggar - Honored
Use: Reduces your threat to enemy targets within 30 yards, making them less likely to attack you.
Cooldown: 5 min

Hypnotist's Watch = -720 threat
Binds when picked up
Trinket
Use: Reduces your threat to enemy targets within 30 yards, making them less likely to attack you.

Jewel of Charismatic Mystique = -1075 threat
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 68
Use: Reduces your threat to enemy targets within 30 yards, making them less likely to attack you.
Cooldown: 5 min

Timelapse Shard = -901 threat
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
+27 Stamina
Requires Level 70
Requires Keepers of Time - Exalted
Equip: Improves your resilience rating by 24 (0.6%).
Use: Reduces your threat to enemy targets within 30 yards, making them less likely to attack you.
Cooldown: 2 min

Eye of Diminution
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 60
Equip: Increases your spell critical strike rating by 28 (1.3%).
Use: Reduces the threat you generate by (35-max(0,PL+)% for 20 sec.
Cooldown: 2 min


Fetish of the Sand Reaver
Binds when picked up
Unique
Trinket
Requires Level 60
Use: Reduces the threat you generate by (70-2*max(0,PL+)% for 20 sec.
Cooldown: 3 min


Shrouding Potion = -1500 threat
Requires Level 55
Use: Shrouds you from nearby enemies so you seem less threatening to them.
Cooldown: 2 min
Charges: 1 (Expendable)
Item Level 67


Added Shrouding Potion per Poldaran's request
Also I don't know the math on the last 2...just pointing that out. If anyone cares to figure that out, I'd be interested in knowing the reduction.





Edited, Sep 27th 2007 4:08pm by chood

You pretty much answered your own question. They're just band-aid solutions and don't come even remotely near the threat-reduction and threat-dumps available to other classes. Especially when you consider that those other classes can also use all of the things you just listed in addition to everything they already have.

I still don't understand why people bother asking for opinions when it's quite clear they've already made up their mind.

You go explore this avenue of thought in-game and let me know how it turns out.

Not really.

In fact let me expand on it. Shrouding potions take 3x Ragveil, 1x Netherbloom, 1x Imbued Vial, meaning you are either going to have to pay out the *** to afford the mats (if you are lucky enough to know an alchemist exalted with Sporregar) or else you are going to have to become an alchemist yourself and farm the mats. All for 800 threat reduction. Good plan!

Next the threat reduction trinkets. Having to replace melee trinkets with threat reduction trinkets actually does more to reduce your threat than the trinkets themselves. The Muck covered Drape, well if someone tried to get into a raid wearing that, well they would be dreaming.

Edited, Sep 28th 2007 10:54am by bodhisattva

Well Thank You. Blunt and to the point

I figured as much but I wanted to hear it from some the forum experts.

I actually had the hypnotists watch when I was ret, tried it a few time and wasn’t impressed. I was afraid I didn't give it enough thought since there are all of these threat reducing trinkets out there...useless teasers I guess

Ret Pally, well if someone tried to get into a raid as that, well they would be dreaming.

Never raided on my pally. But just to get things straight...a ret pally with blessing of salvation going all out will pull aggro from the MT?

Also kind of similar question: Warriors only get 20% threat reduction, from stances. Nothing else and no aggro dumps. So, ret pallies' DPS therefore is at least 80% that of DPS warriors?

Not being an ***, this just surprises me a bit if the above is correct.

Edited, Sep 29th 2007 12:41am by Palpitus

Really good ret paladins with a mana battery and a properly set up group have the potential to do that much damage. But the point is that once both they and the other classes reach their threat limit, paladins are left in the dust by the other classes.