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#1 Sep 25 2007 at 11:35 AM Rating: Good
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Sorry for the horrible title, but I couldn't think of anything else to write. Anyways, as I know this post is going to be flamed, I don't really mind naming it that.

My journey through WoW began during the alpha. Then I went through beta, and on to the finished game. My original toon was a hunter, and of course, I knew nothing about the class. In 2006, I recreated a hunter and started raiding. I wasn't a noob, I knew talent trees well, I had good pet management, and shot cycles, and my guild was doing fairly well. I decided to hone my FPS skills, so I retired my char, that type of junk.

When TBC hit the shelves, I recreated another hunter (for those who think that I don't play other classes, I was fairly proficient at tanking with a warr) and used BM to get to heroics. I switched to SV, when that craze started on Zam, and found out its nice playability. I got into a guild that was Kara ready, but it wasn't that simple.

There were so damned many horrible hunters it was unbelievable. Melee, not using pets, and those who just don't know anything. They criticized ME for using AG, as they were clearly set on the fact that every build was the same. They couldn't CC worth a damn, couldn't build a decent build, and couldn't DPS. I'm not saying I was a perfect hunter by any means, but I was good enough to keep my DPS high on the meters when I was needed.

Then I realized, (don't sympathize me) how repetitive and tedious MMOs were. I'm not saying that they are bag games, and I find that WoW was a great game, but I realized that I just didn't like them.

The main idea of this post is, yes, about how MMOs are repetitive enough to turn an experienced player away. I am not jsut saying this about me, because coming from a family of gamers, (yes, that sounds awful) including a terrific RTSer, none of them enjoy MMOs.

The opinions I am asking for are mainly those involving huntards, etc., though feel free to comment on my main topic.

I sincerely do not want this moved, or deleted, or anything of the kind, you can lock it or whatever, but I doubt that any of the above are going to happen. (if it does, well than I am mistaken).

I am fully aware of what type of response I'm going to get, so flame away, but I just wanted to tell my story. For those who say, "If you knew that you were going to be flamed, why bother posting?", I just wanted to get a response.
#2 Sep 25 2007 at 11:52 AM Rating: Decent
Personally, I dislike the term flaming. Never do it myself.

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Stop laughing.

Seriously.

However, if we are talking about flames, I don't see anything flameworthy in your post. The only thing to remark upon, would be the expectation that you were going to get a flame. It's like you are looking down upon the posters on this forum. Anyhow, you will have to be a good deal more retarded than that to get anything harsh out of me.

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I said stop laughing!

As for the rest of your post... I am not sure what it has to do with Hunters specifically, except for the Huntards part. And those guys have gotten their fair share of discussion already. Not going to bother searching it up, but the amount of opinions on the smacktards are numerous, and often voiced. Since you don't have any specific situations or anything else to offer, there is little to remark upon.

Huntard = Bad.

There, that's as specific as you can get, keeping your post in mind. The rest of it, I suggest taking it to the Multigame forums or possibly the OoT. If you go to the OoT though, make sure you generalize your post as much as possible. Specific game related threads aren't always welcome there, and I have never gone anywhere near the amount of verbal punishment that has been doled out over there...
#3 Sep 25 2007 at 12:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Yuppley wrote:
Then I realized, (don't sympathize me) how repetitive and tedious MMOs were. I'm not saying that they are bag games, and I find that WoW was a great game, but I realized that I just didn't like them.

The main idea of this post is, yes, about how MMOs are repetitive enough to turn an experienced player away. I am not jsut saying this about me, because coming from a family of gamers, (yes, that sounds awful) including a terrific RTSer, none of them enjoy MMOs.


From what I see, in a nutshell you are asking if we think MMORPGs are repetitive. If so my answer would be yes, of course they are. Games such as WoW try to increase playability by limiting the game’s storyline. But even so playing games is very much like reading a book or watching a movie. They can be very exciting the first time through, but after a while they become predictable and repetitive. I think that’s what makes PvP popular with so many people. Adding the unpredictability of human behavior into the mix makes the game less predictable. Though personally I still loath PvP. *smiles*

Many people will play a MMORPG to “the end” once or twice and then move onto the next one where everything is new again. The game companies try to keep players interested by adding new content via patches and expansions. But in the end it takes a personality that can tolerate or even enjoy repetition to stick with one game for years and years.

So if someone no longer enjoy a particular MMORPG perhaps its time to move on to something that will be new and exciting to him/her.
#4 Sep 25 2007 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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Calabar, I see what you're saying, and I must agree, though I do not find WoW repetitive enough to warrant switching to a new MMO.
#5 Sep 25 2007 at 1:27 PM Rating: Good
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There were so damned many horrible hunters it was unbelievable. Melee, not using pets, and those who just don't know anything. They criticized ME for using AG, as they were clearly set on the fact that every build was the same. They couldn't CC worth a damn, couldn't build a decent build, and couldn't DPS. I'm not saying I was a perfect hunter by any means, but I was good enough to keep my DPS high on the meters when I was needed.


I would stick with it and show exactly how good you can be, maybe it will knock some sense into the guild/other hunters.

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Personally, I dislike the term flaming. Never do it myself.

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Stop laughing.

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God I think I fell out of my chair!

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I said stop laughing!


I CAN'T!

#6 Sep 25 2007 at 2:59 PM Rating: Good
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FPSs, RTSs, etc. aren't repetitive? I mean, yeah maybe there's a bit more to the single-player of an FPS than there is to an MMO, but not a whole lot. And even then, you're still doing the same thing. And RTSs are even more repetitive. It's not just MMO's, it's video games in general.

But wait, there's more! Books are repetitive. They all have an introduction, rising action, climax, and then falling action (hehe don't you love english class?). Movies...same thing. Only nowadays they all have more effects and less talented actors. Sports? Oh yeah, sports aren't repetitive, especially nascar (/sarcasm). School and work? Yep, they're repetitive. And isn't the pattern of sleeping at night, eating breakfast/lunch/dinner at roughly the same time repetitive, too?
#7 Sep 25 2007 at 4:47 PM Rating: Decent
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I've personaly wondered something like this myself.

Once you've hit the max lvl, max skills, max profession, best gear possible, max reps, and downed the hardest boss in the game a couple of times. What's next, make an alt do it all over again and repeat till next expansion?

That's why I've always favored the battlefield games (albeit Vietnam gave me trojans). They have that new feel every game, new ideas or goals like flying a jet to the ceiling and parachuting down, and new people (That one amazing Apache pilot that can go at max speed and stay 1 foot off the ground without killing us all). Though there always are those maps you hate as with WoW (Uldaman).
#8 Sep 25 2007 at 9:35 PM Rating: Decent
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Well, you could twink, making alts - while being the same story - can be completely different. A rogue and a mage will be almost 2 seperate games pretty much.
#9 Sep 26 2007 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
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skribs wrote:
FPSs, RTSs, etc. aren't repetitive? I mean, yeah maybe there's a bit more to the single-player of an FPS than there is to an MMO, but not a whole lot. And even then, you're still doing the same thing. And RTSs are even more repetitive. It's not just MMO's, it's video games in general.

But wait, there's more! Books are repetitive. They all have an introduction, rising action, climax, and then falling action (hehe don't you love english class?). Movies...same thing. Only nowadays they all have more effects and less talented actors. Sports? Oh yeah, sports aren't repetitive, especially nascar (/sarcasm). School and work? Yep, they're repetitive. And isn't the pattern of sleeping at night, eating breakfast/lunch/dinner at roughly the same time repetitive, too?


QFT
#10 Sep 26 2007 at 10:06 AM Rating: Decent
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So far I made 2 toons that I have brought up into the 30s at best. My hunter just dinged 70, and my warrior... see sig.

I couldn't believe how much different the play of each toon was different. I constantly found myself looking for my Feign Death button on my warrior right before I died. Or I would think to myself... why am I having such a hard time with a lvl 34. I normally just hit it as I go by and it dies. (both my warrior and my Hunter look exactly the same. Features wise.)

If its boring... stop playing. =D if it isn't then don't complain.

If it ain't broke... don't fix it. =D
#11 Sep 26 2007 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I was bored with WoW for a while there. Almost stopped the account. Then I realized the game isn't about leveling, raiding, instances or getting better gear- eventually that all ends and you have to 'start over'.

It's about having fun, finding friends (guild) that you can yakkity yak with all while KILLING THINGS (virtually speaking of course). Great stress reliever. Wish you could temporarily rename bosses or mobs before you fight them. Insert REAL LIFE boss name and wreck vengeance. I'd go to work with a whole new attitude. "Hi Boss! Have a good night last night? Yeah, kicked your A$$ a dozen times last night for fun, man you are weak. You'd think you'd learn not to be so predictable after the first few times I whumped ya...and boy are you ugly!"

As I improve my playing skills, I bring more to the team and thus it makes it easier on everyone.

I'll leave the playing for levels, gold, gear to the kiddies. Eventually they'll grow out of it.
#12 Sep 27 2007 at 1:02 PM Rating: Good
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I couldn't believe how much different the play of each toon was different. I constantly found myself looking for my Feign Death button on my warrior right before I died. Or I would think to myself... why am I having such a hard time with a lvl 34. I normally just hit it as I go by and it dies. (both my warrior and my Hunter look exactly the same. Features wise.)


Lol, yeah at the end of the fight, I see a trap still on the ground and I try to press Totemic Recal... doesn't work

>.<
#13 Sep 28 2007 at 12:03 AM Rating: Decent
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Caldone the Shady wrote:
Lol, yeah at the end of the fight, I see a trap still on the ground and I try to press Totemic Recal... doesn't work

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Yeah, i did that too. Its scary how fast totemic recall becomes second nature =P
(just like pressing ctrl+1 when i'm not playing my hunter)
#14 Sep 28 2007 at 12:14 AM Rating: Default
I'm unclear what the original purpose of the op was supposed to be.

Are you saying you are awesome, but don't want to do end game grinding for raiding? We can't change the game to suit your needs. Just move on if it's not your cup of tea. Can't expect raiding spots to be handed to you.

Yes mmo's are repetitive. But I find the level grind (I don't even call it a grind) to 70 easy and fun. it's all the "work" you have to do at 70 I find unfun. And it seems silly to level all these chars (I play all 9 classes) to 70 and just abandon them. I haven't played my 70 hunter in almost a week. What purpose does he serve? Why did I spend all that time levelling him? But I had fun levelling him, and that's the point.

If you aren't having fun, leave. Only thing that bothers me is elitists attitudes people have if you aren't all decked out in purples at 70 and haven't ran Kara. last I checked games are supposed to be fun, and fun means different things for different people. I just wasn't one of those guys who as a kid played ms pacman for days on end (exaggeration) to learn all the levels and have my 3 letter name listed on top scores. I'd only play for short periods of time.

So do what you want. If it's repetitive and not fun, don't do it.
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