totem of rage?Follow

ok well im done doing my lvl 49 pvp for my [rune of perfection] and im gonna go on and hit 50... what do i spend the talen point in? is totem of rage's 3% spell crit useful or use it for sumtin else?

would you take nature's swiftness or totem of rage?

I'd personally be a lot more open to Totem of Wrath (not Rage) if I didn't have to sink five points into Lightning Overload to get it. While questing, grinding, and PvP'ing, one extra lightning spell for every 20 cast is not even worth mentioning. Generally, you want talents that show reliable, even if subtle, results on a single-fight, mob-by-mob basis.

As far as Totem of Wrath goes, again, I have a hard time justifying it outside of a raid situation. When soloing you're going to want to drop damaging fire totems if you expect a fight to last that long, you won't use it in PvP, and in five-man parties for all you know you could be the only offensive caster in which case the buff goes largely to waste.

Unless you already took Lightning Overload, I would hold off on getting Totem of Wrath until the very end of the game if/when you decide to dedicate yourself to raiding.

I would argue this. Not all the caster DPS is going to fit in the same group, and multiple elemental shammies can benefit more groups. Plus, last I checked, ToW stacked - giving a group 6% crit and hit, which is a serious bonus in and of itself, and even moreso if everyone can trade hit gear for pure +dmg/+crit items.

dread, sorry, but i disagree about your pvp spec, lightening overlord is bad for pvp, and +3 hit percent on weapons as an elemental?

i'd do something like this
http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/shaman/talents.html?5503015503021025120000000000000000000000050005051004010000000

Really, I better stop using Windfury and switch to Rockbiter then.

ok, I have no idea why people hate lightning overlord. When u think about it LO is basically an extra 5% crit chance. Sure you don't get your next spell reduced but when LO procs then you have another 40 percent (in my case) to crit with that spell. So odds are when LO procs most likely one of them will crit, reducing your next spell cost. Anyone who complains about an extra 5% crit chance, raids or otherwise is just beyond me.

Please explain to me how taking 5 points out of LO gives me the 11 points I need to take all that?



Do you mean no-one you respect? Or do you just ignore the posts that don't take your side?

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This defies everything we know about PvP. Burst damage has ALWAYS been superior to constant/reliable damage for PvP. If you chip away at an opponents health at a constant, reliable rate they know when to heal/bubble/stun/run. You make yourself predictable and predictability = death in PvP.
That sudden LO Double crit takes your opponent from half health to dead and gives them no opportunity to do anything about it, and if it's a chain lightning... Yes it's a gamble but PvP is always a gamble for non resto shamans.

It is no different to the 5min + periods I have run around without a WF proc when specced enhancement (though I will agree you are far less likely to get a string of LO procs).

Edited, Sep 27th 2007 8:31am by SunSoarer

If all the changes in 2.3 go through, my planned Elemental build is going to be royally screwed. A 20% chance for LO to proc makes it damned desireable for everything now, but to afford it I have to give up a lot of points elsewhere that I really don't want to lose...

I hate it when Blizzard does this to me.