pally vs. priest on heal meterFollow

My guild just started raiding Kara and I always way out heal our priests on the dmg/ heal reports at the end of our run. I was wondering if others have this same experience. Sometimes it's due to shackling responsibilities to some degree, but even when not it's a large gap on the report. We are very similarly geared. I read up on priests alittle and saw that some claim this to usually be the case. It is nice to be #1 on a chart of course, and even the little bit of competetion for that title is kind of fun, but wondering what some of you might say for an explanation here.

It also depends on how your healing duties are split up. Since we're (debatably) the best single target healers in the game, we tend to be assigned to the main tank as a primary duty. Obviously the main tank will be taking way way more damage than the remaining members of the raid, so you'll have more healing to do.

In all reality healing meters aren't that critical. If you're not wiping, are successfully downing bosses, and everyone is efficiently healing (down-rank spells where appropriate, not massively over-healing, etc)...then all is well :) I'd say the over-healing meter might even be more important. It should show you how you can be more efficient in your healing strategy.

Flash heals tend to knock HoTs to the overheal chart alot of the time. Also, like mentioned, Prayer of Mending doesn't give credit to the priest, and in my experience it is used liberally during every fight.

add the non-healers' healing to the priest's (prayer of mending) and compare again.

what does your heal-o-meter show for overheals? your fast-cast heals may be filling the tank up before a greater heal has time to land or a renew has time to tick more than once.

This can alter results as well unless you have a meter that will tell you how much healing that person "did" came from Prayer of Mending. Bandaids, Warlock Drain Life and Siphon Life, (healing pots and healthstones?), (Judgement of Light?), and I'm sure others will be mis-stacked on the priest.

I dunno, though. Who tops healing meters is less important than "did someone I was trying to keep alive die?" It's really only an issue if some healer is WAY behind all the others and there's no logical reason why.

Of course the groups success is number one. Did we beat the bosses and get through trash mobs with ease? If yes, then everyone did their jobs well. The meter is fun for a little competition and motivation to improve though, but it has caused a little tension amongst our healers in raid links i believe. I've told them about what I've read that somehow pallies usually top meters, although I didn't know the reasons.

Again, anyone know whether prayer of mending stacks?

That's a bit of an exaggeration.

I agree that prayer of mending is in large part responsible for the discrepancy in pally and priest healing values. Especially if the priests are using the power word: death trick to bounce it back off them, in 5-mans this is sometimes enough to keep the tank fully healed.

However, I'm going to add that it may also be about paladin and priest attitude. As the MT starts to take damage, the priest will probably put on a renew and start charging up a big heal. If the tank isn't really damaged, he'll stop casting and start again. A paladin will probably continue the cast, or do a flash (and priests never do a flash, at least not on the tank). Holy paladins have enviable healing efficiency, they can afford to finish the heal even if much of it is overhealing, sometimes just to proc light's grace. However any priest who has had experience healing will have learnt tricks and habits to control aggro and maximise mana efficiency. We rely quite heavily at times on instants like mending and renew to give us breathing space and give time for the tank to maintain aggro, and we try to get as many full mana regen ticks in as possible. Paladins have no such spells and I'm guessing have learnt that it's best to keep the tank at full health as often as possible, and have light's grace up in case real damage starts being done.

Now, healadins are more than healbots with 2 spells they can bind to every key and roll their head on keyboard in an emergency. But they lack the flexibility in healing that druids and priests have. The classes are fundamentally different, even in their holy specs. They all have something different to add to a raid. Meters are not worthless, but for me at least they've been relegated to compare the difference between renew and gheal in PuGs, and determining wand damage.

/end rant

I don't agree on that, damage meters make sense, but definitely not healing meters, you heal based on how efficient, not by the amount being healed. A good healer definitely don't need to top healing meter, and I consider an insult to show healing meter when I'm healing.

Thanks Ixidoria. Do you know whether renew does?

I've been raiding Kara for a bit now (Cenosis-Medivh check armory if you like) and I am constantly on top in the 27-32% range. I have tons of overheal BUT! like some previos posters stated that doesn't matter to a degree. Actually I may sound odd on this one, but for me it's not healing or overhealing it's consistency and for that to work, you need mana and SPEED. There are a few trinkets and meta gems that achieve this and I think they are FAR more vaulable than +Healing. I find overheal on a pally also occurs if you have a high crit... Lastly, meter mean nothing in my mind. Reality is if your alive at the end of an encounter then you did your job. But thats me :).

Theres no debtae! We are THE BEST single heaing class there is. **** every other class who disagrees. Na, just kidding.

But in all seriousness I've outhealed a holy priest twice. I usually out heal resto druids, but if we got a good tank they go totally crazy with their heals and I probally got outhealed once by a shaman and he outgeared me by quite a bit.

The guild I'm in actually prefers our Shadow priests before our Holy. In all fairness though our SP's are freakin demi-gods. I love those guys 0.o

Do they own the **** out of me every single day...