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Ive always wanted to try a 2H Fury spec and im wondering what kind of dps it can pull out compared to the average 31/30 MS/Flurry build. I heard that once you hit 2k AP self-buffed Blood Thirst starts getting better dps than MS would for 2h.

Currently i have these stats:

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Damage: 828 - 1010
Speed: 3.6
Power: 1740
Hit Rating: 114
Crit Chance: 36.22% (Zerker Stance)

Im wondering what sort of build i should go for, i was thinking something on the lines of these:
30/31/0 - This 1 could have things like 1 point in 2H Wep Specialisation for Anger Management for better rage gen
20/41/0 - This build includes Imp Zerker Stance so i removed Imp. Overpower and added Anger Management, also removed Sweeping Strikes so that i could have the Rampage Talent, prolly would do alot more for me than Sweeping Strikes. In this build i would have 2545 AP self buffed in my current gear (Rampage + BS) so i recon this would be adaquate enough for rage gen with anger management so i doubt ill need Imp Zerker Rage. The +3% hit from precision is nice, especially since i lose the 4 weapon skill rating from Weapon Mastery, hopefully can get that back by picking up a nice Sword/Mace on par or better than Gorehowl so that i can reap the benefits of my +5 sword/mace skill as a human.

Id like some feedback on what you think of those 2 builds and if you have any suggestions or even experience on what i could do to improve those builds or any general info on 2h fury playstyles id greatly appreciate it ;)

Edited, Sep 17th 2007 12:27pm by Miten

#2 Sep 17 2007 at 8:52 AM Rating: Good

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20/41/0

It's actually around 2500-3000 AP when Bloodthirst will outperform MS point-for-point depending upon the weapon you're using, but with Imp. Zerker, Rampage and Battle Shout that's not terribly hard to achieve.

Weapon Spec is good, Imp. Zerker is as good or better and Rampage is insane. With all of that said, however, if you're doing raid DPS and there's no other Arms Warriors you should be 33/28/0. It's as much damage or more than 31/30/0 (10% haste vs. 4% overall damage) and it's an extremely strong debuff to boost everyone else's damage as well.

#3 Sep 17 2007 at 9:16 AM Rating: Decent

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RPZip wrote:

20/41/0

I doubt ill be Pvp'ing much, only every so often but i dont want to arrange my talents around it so Imp Intercept i wont take. I like Imp Cleave, ive found it pretty nice, especially in scenario's where ive had an abundance of rage using cleave instead of HS as it has almost the same damage output, but this has not been the case all time.

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It's actually around 2500-3000 AP when Bloodthirst will outperform MS point-for-point depending upon the weapon you're using, but with Imp. Zerker, Rampage and Battle Shout that's not terribly hard to achieve.

Hmm ok, well i can get 2.5k AP self buffed, not hard to get an additional 500 AP, especially with BoM/Enh Shaman buff (I forgot what its called), as well as BoK/GotW/Trueshot Aura etc.

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Weapon Spec is good, Imp. Zerker is as good or better and Rampage is insane. With all of that said, however, if you're doing raid DPS and there's no other Arms Warriors you should be 33/28/0. It's as much damage or more than 31/30/0 (10% haste vs. 4% overall damage) and it's an extremely strong debuff to boost everyone else's damage as well.

Agree with the fact that Blood Frenzy > 2H Fury Spec because it gives me more utility in the raid, but part of the reason i was 31/30 was to do a bit of farming too, as my duel-wield fury gear isn't so great compared to my 2h gear and i was farming Primal Shadow/Nature (Low Level Mobs) so with MS i could basically burst down the mobs in 1-2seconds with 2-3crits. I was called in to raid a couple times as dps whilst that spec (usually im a tank) and i was intrigued by my damage output. Im just wondering if i could outperform that damage with my given stats as 2h Fury Spec. Im all for raid progression and helping but id like to see the limits of my dps capabilities :D

Edited, Sep 17th 2007 1:17pm by Miten

Edited, Sep 17th 2007 1:18pm by Miten

#4 Sep 17 2007 at 10:21 AM Rating: Good

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Imp. Intercept is useful when you have to be mobile for bosses. It's not a huge deal in Karazhan, but it's nice on Prince Malch and becomes more and more important the further progressed you get. You could just as easily invest in Imp. Execute though; it's largely a matter of personal preference.

If you want to try maximum personal damage output, use the 20/41/0 build. It's a bit more DPS than 33/28/0 or 31/30/0 although the playstyle is slightly different, and it's more dependent upon weapon when comparing the damage outputs between the two (it's an excellent place to use a Deep Thunder in a PvE spec, for example; the slower, the better, and that is far more important than it usually is even for MS). If you're not using Slam properly I wouldn't bother with it, as you won't be happy with the results.

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Check my useful (?) posts for why Rampage + Imp. Berser. Stance is better than Weapon specs.

That's only for those who are interested, other than that I think RP has it covered.

#6 Sep 17 2007 at 11:35 AM Rating: Decent

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Well thanks for the help, it was greatly appreciated, 1 thing Xordon, your Rampage + Imp. Zerker Stance > Weapon Specialisation thread isnt in your "Useful (?) Topic" thread, and due to not having a premium account i cannot search for it. Mind posting a direct link if you still have it please?

#7 Sep 17 2007 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent

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Nvm i found it.. it was under a different name.. i think the Impale thread

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Actually, it is there. I've just been a complete nub and named it something else. I've edited that now, but I might as well give you the link.

#9 Oct 09 2007 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent

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Hey RP, can you link the 33/28 build you were talking about?

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[33/28/0] is almost certainly what he was talking about. Save for minor changes.

That's also the spec I'd suggest you go with (@Miten). You've got enough crit for perma flurry, and really really nice +hit. However, you lack some AP for fury to be better than arms. Don't know what kinda gear you've got, but by the sound of it it should be alot of epics in there. Once you've got all the stuff from kara and some of the nicer from early 25-mans, you'll be able to break 3k AP easy.

#11 Oct 09 2007 at 7:15 AM Rating: Decent

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Thanks Xordon, I believe I will do the same. I have roughly the same numbers as Miten does. I'm interested in trying that spec out.