omike, loki, deli etc.. got a spec to discussFollow

19/21/21 was bored and messing around with the talent calculator and came up with this hybrid build. it's basically the 0/21/40 build but without conflag, backlash or SnF.
the reason why I'm curious is because though the SB nuke damage is decreased a bit, the dots get a fairly sizable buff. especially for bosses when you're using amp.CoD every 3min (so up to 3 times in 1 boss fight generally). the 2/2 imp.CoA is simply there 'cos I don't need more hit and it'd help with increasing trash dps. though for people who need more hit they can go into suppression.

the spell rotation would be the same as a destruction build, though obviously without conflagorate (supposedly you're not meant to use it anyways, though it's a personnal preferance)

another reason for this build is that I remember in one of my many banters with loki he brought up about how large of a dps increase you gain from having an instant cast COR instead of 2sec cast one as well as that you can get nightfall.

I've gone this spec now, gonna try it out in a few raids. i tested it on Dr.Boom and I held out at 1050 dps for about 6-7minutes before going competely OOH & OOM. to be honoust though I can't remember what my Dr.Boom dps was for 0/21/40 so i've no idea if this is an improvement until i get into an actual raid.

Actually, the real reason you get Improved Corruption is because it makes the spell an instant cast spell, which allows you to remain mobile and prevents interruption and silence. Since Corruption activates the GCD, 1-2 points is all you really need. It's true that with the talent, the spell goes from 45 dps to 50 dps, but the GCD limits how useful you can make that.
However, I am interesting in seeing how well this performs, because the reason Affliction warlocks like Improved Shadow Bolt is because they have 4 nonperiodic shadow spells they can cast on their target, but you only have 2...

That pretty much sums up my attitude. I haven't looked for +crit ever since I specced out of Ruin.

Unless you're casting Curse of Shadows or Curse of the Elements, Curse of Agony and Corruption should on the trash mobs.

This is some rough theorycrafting, using http://www.wowwiki.com/Spell_Damage_Coefficients#Warlock_Coefficients and assuming that DS is factored in after everything.

Damage from Corruption:
((1.296*1137) + 900 * 1.15) / 18 = 139 dps, so 418 per tick.

Damage from Curse of Agony (I think ICoA is factored into the base)
((1.2*1137) + (1356*1.10) * 1.15) / 24 = 128 dps, so 256 average damage per tick.

Damage from Shadow Bolts (572 average damage)
(((.8571*1137) + 572 )* 1.15) / 2.5 = 711 dps.

most guilds don't use CoRec because they don't like the AP increase on bosses (i keep on saying it's around an 8% increase in melee damage but they never listen... lol) also aout imp.CoA... explain to me where else I can put this? i have 13% +hit from gear on bosses so any more than 1 point in suppresion is near pointless and don't even think about saying imp.CoW.... then there's fel concentration... well this is a raiding build so 'tis a useless talent.. also the talent isn't worth it without 5 points in it

Edited, Sep 12th 2007 5:48pm by Jenovaomega