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#1 Sep 06 2007 at 6:22 PM Rating: Good
I don't know if I'm the only one who has these feeling, but here it goes. I'm making a run through the Stockades, with my usual groupies, when BAM we're hit by the first couple mobs. I wiggle my toes in eager anticipation as the tank takes a hit to the stomach. "Renew!" I cry, pressing the hotkey on my keyboard. "Bubble!" I say next, and "Fade!" This is my life, I live for healing. The tank is a wuss, hardly knows how to do anything, so the aggro is always back on me, and I instantly know, "Kabam!" I yell, "Take AoE Fear, suckers!" My guildies know I'm eccentric, but that's the way I am. I heal. That's what I do. I refuse to dps, or even to backup heal. And, according to many of my groups, I heal well. So, if ever you venture onto the realm of Garithos, and happen to require a healer, Naelus is your guy.
#2 Sep 06 2007 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
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nice to see priests that love healing :P

But.. c'mon! Bubble? Scream? Anyway... if it works for you (now), go ahead. You'll learn as you grow up. :D
#3 Sep 07 2007 at 3:48 AM Rating: Decent
Bubble and scream... shudder. You will need to change your tactics as you level.

Normally, bubble should only be put on the tank as an emergency (I don't have time to save him) measure.

Fear in an instance is bad. Don't do it without knowing they won't run into other mobs, or on an end game encounter designed for fear to be used.

Later, you will get a heal called Prayer of Mending which is low agro and a good opener. Until then, I would let the tank get in a whack or two before beginning to heal, and yes, be ready with fade because the adds are coming for you.
#4 Sep 07 2007 at 5:17 AM Rating: Decent
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You should give the battlegrounds a try if you love healing. A good healer (even a lame healer) can turn the tide of a battle. The other players will love you for it and heap praise upon you.

Hey also, the arathi basin rewards in the 20-29 bracket are some of the first good items that add +healing and other +stats.

Healing FTW!
#5 Sep 07 2007 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Hey also, the arathi basin rewards in the 20-29 bracket are some of the first good items that add +healing and other +stats.
Hey, thanks for the comments, and I have just one more thing to ask: where do i trade in the honor points/marks/what-have-you from Arathi Basin and WSG for the goods of which you speak? I know of the place in SW, but I see only lvl 60+ stuff there, and, obviously, I can't use it.
#6 Sep 07 2007 at 12:22 PM Rating: Decent
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WSG marks are turned in at the silverwing stronghold in Ashenvale. Go east out of Astranaar and follow the road until the river. After the river hang a right down a path that follows the eastern shore of the river (basically). There is a building there and then the path continues south to another compound. The WSG vendor is there.

For arathi, the vendor is in refugee point in arathi highlands.
#7 Sep 07 2007 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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fine, ill say it.

the force is strong in this one.

sorry i had to :D
#8 Sep 07 2007 at 6:46 PM Rating: Decent
I love to heal too. Doing a bad pug with a 24 priest (I'm a 32 priest). Technically I should be dps'ing as I'm a higher level. But I'm also specc'd holy (he was shadow). I did try dp's, but I pulled aggro from a druid tanking in cat form who was 5 levels above me. I don't know how that happened. I guess because my damage is real spikey compared to his.

Healing just comes naturally to me. Just I have the worst luck with pugs with my priest. Druid tanking in cat form, come on!!. Yeah he was a few levels higher than the instance and we lacked dps, but still...

Edited, Sep 7th 2007 7:47pm by thrashering
#9 Sep 09 2007 at 8:56 PM Rating: Good
Dude, of course the tank isn't holding aggro if you're PWSing him.

Unless, of course, the tank is a Paladin. Then it's all good.
#10 Sep 09 2007 at 10:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Iamthemax wrote:
I heal. That's what I do. I refuse to dps, or even to backup heal.


You should be willing to do whatever it takes. Sometimes you'll need to dps or backup heal or cc or whatever. Doesn't matter which class you play you need to be willing to adjust to different scenarios.
#11 Sep 09 2007 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
MentalFrog wrote:
Iamthemax wrote:
I heal. That's what I do. I refuse to dps, or even to backup heal.


You should be willing to do whatever it takes. Sometimes you'll need to dps or backup heal or cc or whatever. Doesn't matter which class you play you need to be willing to adjust to different scenarios.


QFT. If I'm main healer, and the instance isn't that tough and nobody needs major heals, I'll throw up some SWPs and whatnot to speed up the process. What good do I do if I stand in the back and throw up a Renew every now and then? Just walk around, farting around, with a full mana bar... not so much. I make myself useful in every situation.
#12 Sep 10 2007 at 12:25 PM Rating: Decent
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What good do I do if I stand in the back and throw up a Renew every now and then? Just walk around, farting around, with a full mana bar... not so much. I make myself useful in every situation.

This was my point to begin with, that I'm going to use the abilities I have, I'm not afraid of using Fade... thats what it's there for. And I don't overdo it... I only ever pws when the tank is either over half dead, or if our mana-using group members are getting agro, then i bubble them, throw a renew, and use fade, usually this brings them (mobs) back to the tank, or the tank takes notice and comes to help. This might seem ridiculuos, because the caster can take care of himself, but I don't like worrying about them any more than I have to. The Tank is my main concern, as he/she should be.
#13 Sep 20 2007 at 1:54 AM Rating: Default
Hahahahahhahaha I made an account just to reply to the OP. You`re so funny. It put a smile on my face!!!! Rock on brother! It`s god to see maniacs like me healing. You bear the mark of a uber priest.

As for your troubles heres the solution. It`s all about timing. First of all let me say that healing with a priest in general is extremely stressful because you must be "on" all the time. More failures than anyone realises are due to priests ineffectiveness. The pull for us priests starts waaaaaay before it actually happens. Which brings me back to timing. For example:
Before the tank actually charges (thus entering on the mobs aggro list) place your renew on him! Yes off combat! You must "feel" or better still coordinate (wink) verbally when hes about to charge. That way he has some ticks from that on him in those tricky first seconds and those will cause absolutely no aggro on you since you`re not on the mobs list yet. I also recommend fading right after the renew, ALL this before the pull.
So the sequence is like this: Renew.....fade.......tank charges.......tank gains aggro..... priest heal heal heal (while fade is active)....fade coolsdown and so forth. Now keep in mind that fade is the most incredible ability in the game. It is one of the few abilities that plays with the aggro tables instantly dropping you on a lower position. Although people will disagree I can also state that you generate LESS aggro from your abilities while Fade is active. Think of the duration of the spell as a wonderful safe shroud that you must wear as often as possible. I leave the solving of dillemma of the "deadly gap" as I call it (the gap between the end of the spell and the cooldown) to you. :)

#14 Sep 20 2007 at 5:09 AM Rating: Decent
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That's interesting, so using renew just before the tank engages causes no threat as it heals? I'd assumed it would cause a trickle of threat and had been using it just as soon as the first dent appeared in the tank's health, so as not to heal them to full health. It'd never occurred to me to use fade to reduce my threat unless the mobs were heading my way, I see the logic, but don't like the idea of the 'deadly gap' as you call it, do you get caught out a lot?

I'm a newbie, loving healing too, just trying to learn to do it better...
#15 Sep 20 2007 at 7:11 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, there's a couple flaws with that. Firstly, *if* you're not in combat yet, renew won't cause aggro. However, I think your first tick of renew puts you in combat.
Also, fading before you're on a mob's aggro list is pointless and a waste of the cooldown. There's no threat to drop, because you're not on any aggro lists.
#16 Sep 20 2007 at 11:31 PM Rating: Good
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desertcraft wrote:
Before the tank actually charges (thus entering on the mobs aggro list) place your renew on him! Yes off combat! You must "feel" or better still coordinate (wink) verbally when hes about to charge. That way he has some ticks from that on him in those tricky first seconds and those will cause absolutely no aggro on you since you`re not on the mobs list yet. I also recommend fading right after the renew, ALL this before the pull.


Scenario (that will always happen):
Priest puts renew on tank. Tank charges 3 mobs. Priest also enters combat because of the active renew. Tank gains aggro from charge on one mob and body aggro (the presence in the aggro range) on the other 2 mobs. Renew ticks and heals the little damage that the tank took, the 2 mobs not yet hit by tank go for the priest. If we talk about heroics.. priest might be dead by now.
But usually priest survives with help from the mage (nova, sheep) or hunter (trap or pull) or rogue (gouge/kick) or tank's taunt (roar) or simply by fade. But that is not really a way to start the fight. Let the tank hit all 3 mobs (what a good tank should do), gain some aggro, then put the renew.

On higher levels (68+), start with prayer of mending. Gives the tank some more aggro and heals the first damage it takes.
#17 Sep 21 2007 at 6:28 AM Rating: Decent
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"Renew!" I cry, pressing the hotkey on my keyboard.


The mental picture I have from this is so much win
#18 Sep 21 2007 at 11:28 AM Rating: Decent
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A good healer (even a lame healer) can turn the tide of a battle.


QFMFT! Seriously, even healing with a bad healing class is good enough at some times. Really easy to change the outcome of a big battle.
#19 Sep 22 2007 at 10:38 AM Rating: Decent
I learned something new. renew ticks while I'm on the other side of the map can bring me into combat.. ... last it actually happened, the tank was a warrior and tstomped as soon as he charged. or druid and yell or paladin and consecrated. The renew tick doesn't bother them at all on a decent tank.

rofl. shielding a tank.. unless paladin I'd take my finger off that particular button or even better, just shield him BEFORE combat. and just sit down and drink a bit of joe while he's getting hit for that much damage. that will give the tankadin the chance to get some aggro before you get into the game.

In my opinion I see more of a problem with the healer not letting the tank gen rage/aggro than the tank not holding aggro.

If you're healing him as soon as he gets punched in the stomach . you might want to start off with a renew after he gets his stomp in. it'd reduce any overhealing and has a low initial aggro. (though it still builds up) This will let him have less initial aggro problems while making it easier to time your own heals. (as it slows down the relative rate he goes from 100 to 0)

ps I went into maradon on my 48 druid the day before last. we brought a 52 retri paladin. .. I ended up taking over tanking right before the elemental water boss right up until maradon with no problems. .. we finished maradon with 4 players. 51 retri paladin , 45 priest, 47 mage and me 49 druid, I ineverated the mage in the middle of the battle while mara was blowing us off so we would have enough dps to finish the run. it was easy enough to shift and heal self/paladin or mage every 3 blowoffs then charge and taunt to pull the aggro off the mage.

Edited, Sep 22nd 2007 6:43pm by Addermine
#20 Sep 24 2007 at 4:56 AM Rating: Decent
Meh, I don't say my spells aloud (since I'm practically never alone), but I get the picture, and yes, healing feels great.

But after one 70 and one 65, I need to play a DPS class from time to time.

As for fear, it's not so good in a priest's case. Warlocks can actually fear for good CC (with proper use of CoR and CoEx), but priests don't have snares or CoR, so it's somewhat risky.

But honestly, do you like the Stockades? Seems to be the least appealing instance ever to me.
#21 Sep 24 2007 at 5:01 AM Rating: Good
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Kalivha wrote:
But honestly, do you like the Stockades? Seems to be the least appealing instance ever to me.


It's a crappy instance with crappy loot, but I like its convenience. Right next to a bank, AH, shops, trainers, and such a short run from the graveyard you can be back before the fight is even over. Not that anyone in my group ever dies.
#22 Sep 29 2007 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
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You say endgame encounters for fear... and I mean this seriously... freaking heroics.

Healing or Spriest, I make sure the tank pulls mobs back far enough that they can be feared if anything gets out of hand. CC and wipe protection.
#23 Jan 21 2008 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
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I am also one of those diehard healers. I always appreciated the work of the healer and thats why I wanted to experience it myself. So I dropped my rogue and rolled a priest and went holy and I just love to heal.

Most of the people I PUG with are clueless and when there's an overpull or things get out of hand otherwise, I have the time of my life. I love it when things go wrong, so I can fix them. I always carry a large amount of manapots and bandage with me just in case.

It is however a thankless job. On my rogue I always thanked the healer for keeping me alive. And if the tank did a good job, I will thank him also.

If I get a "Thank you for all the heals" or "great healing mate" I start glowing inside. You there!, if you are reading this...thank your healer and tank, because they are the backbone of your party.
#24 Jan 21 2008 at 9:09 AM Rating: Decent
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Oh well, everybody should thank everybody during a smooth run. All the roles are important, not just the healer and tank. Lack of DPS? It won't work. Lack of CC when required? It won't work either.

In fact I've received more specific thanks with my 35 priest than I've ever received with my 70 warlock. On rare occasions I've received thanks for a good CC job but almost never for my DPS, even when it was awesome.

I think a simple "Good job all" at the end of a run or after a tough fight is usually enough. This being said, I like to thank someone who saved my life.
#25 Jan 21 2008 at 12:58 PM Rating: Decent
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You are completely right when you say that DPS and CC is important. I mainly PUG and meet all kinds of players. The nice and good once are added to my friends list and I do thank everybody if a run goes well.

Note that there are only 4 possible healing classes and only 3 tanking classes and not always are these people prepared to take the healing or tanking role on themselves. Truth is, if you get to find a tank and healer (whom are 10 times as hard to find than a DPS'r) and they don't suck, please show your gratitude towards them.
Just like I thank CC'rs for doing their job well.

I don't want to generalize, but: Every class, regardless of specc, can do DPS. Some more then others and sure you need them in a run, but the tank+healer are the central spine of the group.

I read a firemage say that he got "thanks for the heal" very often on his healer and never a remark like "thats a wonderfull pyroblast you did there, mate" on his mage.

Healers often get the crap, while they save the day(but I like healing anyways)

Edit: English is not my native language, please ignore spelling or grammar errors

Edited, Jan 21st 2008 4:28pm by mcfreckle
#26 Jan 22 2008 at 1:19 AM Rating: Decent
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I'm finding at the moment that I enjoy healing as a shadowpriest more due to having to work harder at it. Although the odd times I get called in as actual dps are rather fun(and sometimes oddly still end up with the main healer having nothing to do?).
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