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I have been doing a lot of PvP lately as I enjoy a challenge and don't have much chance to raid at the moment. However I am getting really frustrated about 1 thing: Warriors.
I know rogues are the scissors to a warlocks paper but is it just me or is it the same with warriors? I admit I am not the best PvPer, my reflexes aren't great and I am a clicker when I get lazy. But (any decent) Warrior seems to be able to kill me so quickly! Even faster than rogues.
This is not a QQ I am fine if the case is as it is with rogues. But I want to know if I am just bad or what :P
Would appreciate any answers!
Thanks in advance!
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with warriors you either have to drain tank them, kite them or seduce nuke them (same with any melee really). if he's in your face constantly and you're not drain tanking then yeah, you'll die alot.
I find warriors kill me more then rogues, go figure :D
I love killing both rogues and warriors. My warrior strategy is kite them for a bit with CoEx, then drain tank spam. When they pummel, switch to searing pain spam and just go toe to toe with them. The second your shadow tree comes back (I believe 4 seconds, or 6), back to drain life spam. Try to keep dots refreshed in the process, or at least immolate + corruption + UA if spec'd for it.
So kite to 70-80%, get a fresh line of dots up, switch CoEx to CoA then go toe to toe. Drain life until pummeled, spam searing pain, back to drain life, repeat till dead.
This is also the fight where I am SOOOOO thankful to be a gnome. You really have to be careful CoEx kiting if you're trying to apply your cast time dots like UA and immolate, you'll get intercepted alot until you learn the perfect distances.
Edited, Sep 5th 2007 3:59pm by mikelolol
I love killing both rogues and warriors. My warrior strategy is kite them for a bit with CoEx, then drain tank spam. When they pummel, switch to searing pain spam and just go toe to toe with them. The second your shadow tree comes back (I believe 4 seconds, or 6), back to drain life spam. Try to keep dots refreshed in the process, or at least immolate + corruption + UA if spec'd for it.
So kite to 70-80%, get a fresh line of dots up, switch CoEx to CoA then go toe to toe. Drain life until pummeled, spam searing pain, back to drain life, repeat till dead.
This is also the fight where I am SOOOOO thankful to be a gnome. You really have to be careful CoEx kiting if you're trying to apply your cast time dots like UA and immolate, you'll get intercepted alot until you learn the perfect distances.
Edited, Sep 5th 2007 3:59pm by mikelolol
Please post your build so we can better help you - ie, if you're affliction I'll know you can use iHoT, etc...
If you're affliction, warriors are butter:
1. Now, the first move a warrior will use is charge (battle stance), which makes them open to fear. If they charge you, immediately respond with iHoT; if you get the drop on them, use regular fear. As soon as they are feared, fill them with idots (you can make a macro to make this faster); you should also be running in the opposite direction from where the warrior is going. *note: use amp-coa if you have it, just to take a little extra out from the warrior's hp; make sure you let coa run its coarse.*
2. Now the warrior (if they're decent) will pop an anti-fear trinket (otherwise they wouldn't attack you, but rather go for easier to beat classes), and immediately switch stances to fury. While in fury, they have two moves which cancel fear (berserker rage and recklessness)- although they essentially only have one (the 2nd is great but on an extremely long c/d - you won't run into this in bg - but maybe in arena/world pvp). Berserker rage lasts for a short time (10 seconds), but it's the only way they can really stay close enough to you to hurt you. If the warrior is low on rage, they're screwed - just stay out of range and keep the dots up; drain-tank if you're hit with an immobilize effect.
3. If the warrior has enough rage, they'll use intercept to catch up to you (as an affliction lock you should be easily out of range otherwise). This will temporarily stun you, and give them maybe 1-2 good hits on you. You can respond either with iHoT or Death-coil; if both of these are on c/d (which they shouldn't be at the same time unless you just vsed a rogue) then you can either drain-tank (if the warrior is near-death) or cast fear (regular). If you cast fear, a good warrior will either interrupt your cast, or use intimidating shout. Luckily, your dots should keep the warrior from bandaging, and eating won't refill hp fast enough for a fight. They're basically stuck with giving you 1-2 white hits. When you're mobile, check your cd on iHoT and DC - if the delay is 5-10 seconds, it's smarter to run (random directions) so you can use it (this takes you to step 4); if the cd is too long, just drain-tank them.
4. If the iHoT or DC lands, then you'll have enough time to redot, add in immolate and UA if you have it, and then drain-tank them to death.
I don't know how to beat warriors as either demo or destro spec (not my forte). Good luck playing :)
If you're affliction, warriors are butter:
1. Now, the first move a warrior will use is charge (battle stance), which makes them open to fear. If they charge you, immediately respond with iHoT; if you get the drop on them, use regular fear. As soon as they are feared, fill them with idots (you can make a macro to make this faster); you should also be running in the opposite direction from where the warrior is going. *note: use amp-coa if you have it, just to take a little extra out from the warrior's hp; make sure you let coa run its coarse.*
2. Now the warrior (if they're decent) will pop an anti-fear trinket (otherwise they wouldn't attack you, but rather go for easier to beat classes), and immediately switch stances to fury. While in fury, they have two moves which cancel fear (berserker rage and recklessness)- although they essentially only have one (the 2nd is great but on an extremely long c/d - you won't run into this in bg - but maybe in arena/world pvp). Berserker rage lasts for a short time (10 seconds), but it's the only way they can really stay close enough to you to hurt you. If the warrior is low on rage, they're screwed - just stay out of range and keep the dots up; drain-tank if you're hit with an immobilize effect.
3. If the warrior has enough rage, they'll use intercept to catch up to you (as an affliction lock you should be easily out of range otherwise). This will temporarily stun you, and give them maybe 1-2 good hits on you. You can respond either with iHoT or Death-coil; if both of these are on c/d (which they shouldn't be at the same time unless you just vsed a rogue) then you can either drain-tank (if the warrior is near-death) or cast fear (regular). If you cast fear, a good warrior will either interrupt your cast, or use intimidating shout. Luckily, your dots should keep the warrior from bandaging, and eating won't refill hp fast enough for a fight. They're basically stuck with giving you 1-2 white hits. When you're mobile, check your cd on iHoT and DC - if the delay is 5-10 seconds, it's smarter to run (random directions) so you can use it (this takes you to step 4); if the cd is too long, just drain-tank them.
4. If the iHoT or DC lands, then you'll have enough time to redot, add in immolate and UA if you have it, and then drain-tank them to death.
I don't know how to beat warriors as either demo or destro spec (not my forte). Good luck playing :)
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