Doesn't it seem like 10 minutes is a ridiculously long cd for Challenging Roar (as well as War's Channeling Shout)? It's useless in pvp so it wouldn't cause imbalance if reduced to, say, 2 minutes. Wouldn't you think that a big mean ol' dire bear could manage to produce a decent roar more than once every ten minutes???
Think it would do any good for us to start lobbying BLiz for a reduction?
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tanking would be waaaaaay too easy - you would never ever have a party member go down before you - so no, I like it as the ****** button it is now
Too easy for 6 seconds maybe. But yeah, 2 minutes is probably too short. 5 would be about right.
Edited, Sep 4th 2007 5:24pm by Zalophus
Edited, Sep 4th 2007 5:24pm by Zalophus
it has use in pvp. it causes combat pets affected by it to target you. this includes hunter pets, warlock pets, water elementals, shadowfiends, and anything combat-oriented thats summoned (like servants of barov). this forces the pet owner to manually re-target their primary target (assuming they even have the capability to do so).
sounds useless, but getting a big angry red pet off of your clothie friend for even a second is useful. taunt also works on pets, meaning you, in bear form, could keep big red over there off of your clothie for a consecutive total of about 12 seconds (growl > roar > growl again). thats 2/3 of the duration of beastial wrath where the primary source of damage (the pet) is attacking a very very hard target.
Edited, Sep 4th 2007 2:44pm by Quor
sounds useless, but getting a big angry red pet off of your clothie friend for even a second is useful. taunt also works on pets, meaning you, in bear form, could keep big red over there off of your clothie for a consecutive total of about 12 seconds (growl > roar > growl again). thats 2/3 of the duration of beastial wrath where the primary source of damage (the pet) is attacking a very very hard target.
Edited, Sep 4th 2007 2:44pm by Quor
Quor wrote:
it has use in pvp. it causes combat pets affected by it to target you. this includes hunter pets, warlock pets, water elementals, shadowfiends, and anything combat-oriented thats summoned (like servants of barov). this forces the pet owner to manually re-target their primary target (assuming they even have the capability to do so).
sounds useless, but getting a big angry red pet off of your clothie friend for even a second is useful. taunt also works on pets, meaning you, in bear form, could keep big red over there off of your clothie for a consecutive total of about 12 seconds (growl > roar > growl again). thats 2/3 of the duration of beastial wrath where the primary source of damage (the pet) is attacking a very very hard target.
Edited, Sep 4th 2007 2:44pm by Quor
sounds useless, but getting a big angry red pet off of your clothie friend for even a second is useful. taunt also works on pets, meaning you, in bear form, could keep big red over there off of your clothie for a consecutive total of about 12 seconds (growl > roar > growl again). thats 2/3 of the duration of beastial wrath where the primary source of damage (the pet) is attacking a very very hard target.
Edited, Sep 4th 2007 2:44pm by Quor
That's brilliant. I'm gonna try that out tonight.
Maybe have a talent tweak to reduce the CD - 1/2/3 points, 2min reduction each point
i think its just fine like it is.
Like said before its the O-sh*t-button. And a good tank shouldnt rely on that talent to tank. if downed to 2 mins you could use it almost every mob-fight...
its not ment to be for that i think
Like said before its the O-sh*t-button. And a good tank shouldnt rely on that talent to tank. if downed to 2 mins you could use it almost every mob-fight...
its not ment to be for that i think
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it has use in pvp. it causes combat pets affected by it to target you. this includes hunter pets, warlock pets, water elementals, shadowfiends, and anything combat-oriented thats summoned (like servants of barov). this forces the pet owner to manually re-target their primary target (assuming they even have the capability to do so).
Thanks Quor, I wasn't aware of that. Never even thought of it tbh, but will sure give it a try next chance. Guess that's why they pay you the big money. ;)
Druidserg, yeah, I said in my 2nd post that 2 min was too short. I still think 5 would be more reasonable than 10. Or maybe tacking a stepped reduction onto a talent would be more appropriate, say Feral Aggression or Primal Tenacity.
Just one bears opinion.
Great tidbit of info I didn't know..rate up for you Quor.
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