Hello. ^^
So I've been debating a bit on where I'm going with my Druid as far as talents go. I really enjoy being feral because going cat reminds me of being a Monk in FFXI, I've always loved up close melee. I'm currently level 51 and play on a PvE RP server. I do Battlegrounds occasionally and may dabble in Arena in the future but those are not my focus. I mostly duo with my boyfriend who is a fire spec'd Mage (Currently level 58 and I'm trying to catch up to him). I solo what I can, duo with him for the most part, and ask for help within our guild when we can't handle something ourselves. The guild is our last resort; I'm not fond of PuG's and our guild is a bit more "mature" so it really just has a lot of upper 60's and level 70 capped characters. It feels too much like they are handing me something so if it can be done on my own even recklessly, I'd rather go that way.
From the beginning I wanted to really take advantage of Druids ability to perform many roles. I have... well not sets, but some key gear that I switch around for Caster/Healer, DPS, and Tanking. While my focus is feral I want to be as efficient as possible in all those areas. I do realize, I will be tanking as I come closer to my little Mage's level. It was fine for the lower level stuff, but really he's just a glass canon. I expected that and took Talents such as Thick Hide, Feral Charge, and Survival of the Fittest. ..but I'm looking at Feral Instinct.. Until I started playing WoW. My Mage mostly solo'd so I have to sort of beat the hate line into him. Good DPS doesn't steal from the tank! He knows that and is trying, and with my level difference it just isn't easy at the moment.
Do I need Feral Instinct to Tank effectively?
Here is my current build; MoonlitStorm - Armory. (Planning right now to head straight for mangle!)
Here is what I had originally planned out; WoWHead.
So I'm trying to see what I can cut out, or if I need to at all. I know I have some guilty pleasures on there.. like Feral Swiftness. For "RP" reasons I stay in cat form nearly 95% of the time (Okay, it's because I really wanted to be a Taruen, but everyone I knew was already playing Alliance. >..< I'm just not fond of Night Elves). Unless I'm fighting, crafting, or mounted. So I like the movement speed bonus.
Alright I'm just rambling...
Any advice or insight is greatly appreciated!
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Personally I would slightly alter your current build, you can look my druid up on the armory (Soggydruid, 54 NE, Eonar) for his exact build. That's probably the most direct way to get Mangle, which on elites is very nice to keep up to allow a 5-charge rip to do it's magic. As an attack sequence on stuff my level, I pounce, mangle, rake (3-5 points now and 15 energy provided no misses/block/parry) and will then be a setup for either a rip (fast combo gen, ie crit on both mangle and first rake) or another rake then ferocious bite (standard or slow combo gen).
Once I get Omen of Clarity (11 point restro talent, obtain in my build at 62; obtained by 5/5 furor, 5/5 naturalist) I'm going to return to the feral tree and put points in Survival of the Fittest (tanking/PVP talent) and Shredding Attacks, then put three points in the restro talent Natural Shapeshifter (PVP talent) for a remaining point, which I may place in Nature's Grasp (Balance).
Once I get Omen of Clarity (11 point restro talent, obtain in my build at 62; obtained by 5/5 furor, 5/5 naturalist) I'm going to return to the feral tree and put points in Survival of the Fittest (tanking/PVP talent) and Shredding Attacks, then put three points in the restro talent Natural Shapeshifter (PVP talent) for a remaining point, which I may place in Nature's Grasp (Balance).
@GryphonStalker:
your built seems like a really bad choice for your level.
u didnt max out heart of the wild, which is a MUST HAVE.
same goes for feral instinct. this is a major talent for tanking.
if you are going to be a lategame-raid-tanker u need thick hide.
if not u can skip it. u could have mangle by now with your lvl which would be a massive damage boost to you and therefor the best way to lvl.
u dont need nuturing instinct for a good heal. its just a waste of talent-points for me... either u want to be a healer or a feral druid. dont spend any points which only fit your heals if u are staying feral.
survival of the fittest is a really good talent, but you should focus on getting your damage-output to max for leveling. SotF u can take as one of your last talents.
if you are going for pvp-arena or stuff i would definitly put natural shapeshifter on your plan of skilling.
just an advice from a druid-friend which is in the 70s a long time now;-D
but its your decission and how u like to play.
edit: changed from feral swiftness to feral instinct
Edited, Aug 31st 2007 10:34am by druidserg
your built seems like a really bad choice for your level.
u didnt max out heart of the wild, which is a MUST HAVE.
same goes for feral instinct. this is a major talent for tanking.
if you are going to be a lategame-raid-tanker u need thick hide.
if not u can skip it. u could have mangle by now with your lvl which would be a massive damage boost to you and therefor the best way to lvl.
u dont need nuturing instinct for a good heal. its just a waste of talent-points for me... either u want to be a healer or a feral druid. dont spend any points which only fit your heals if u are staying feral.
survival of the fittest is a really good talent, but you should focus on getting your damage-output to max for leveling. SotF u can take as one of your last talents.
if you are going for pvp-arena or stuff i would definitly put natural shapeshifter on your plan of skilling.
just an advice from a druid-friend which is in the 70s a long time now;-D
but its your decission and how u like to play.
edit: changed from feral swiftness to feral instinct
Edited, Aug 31st 2007 10:34am by druidserg
In the end very few talents in the feral tree aren't useful in one way or another, but it's important to understand that some of them (like Thick Hide or SotF) are really aimed at the endgame, and can be disregarded at your level.
The main talents you lack are:
- feral instinct (3 points)
- max HotW (2 more points)
- max improved LotP (1 more point)
- max Furor (3 more points)
Therefore you need to find 9 talent points one way or another. Thick Hide, SotF and Nurturing Instincts will already provide 8 of them, the last point can come from Nature's Grasp, Predatory Instincts or even Feral Charge in my opinion.
That could give you that kind of build (I had to put one point in Thick Hide to unlock Predatory Instincts - and ultimately Mangle - but you can put it somewhere else in the feral tree, e.g. Nurturing Instincts)
The main talents you lack are:
- feral instinct (3 points)
- max HotW (2 more points)
- max improved LotP (1 more point)
- max Furor (3 more points)
Therefore you need to find 9 talent points one way or another. Thick Hide, SotF and Nurturing Instincts will already provide 8 of them, the last point can come from Nature's Grasp, Predatory Instincts or even Feral Charge in my opinion.
That could give you that kind of build (I had to put one point in Thick Hide to unlock Predatory Instincts - and ultimately Mangle - but you can put it somewhere else in the feral tree, e.g. Nurturing Instincts)
Drop Nature's Focus and Nurturing Instinct, max out Imp. LotP, Feral Instinct and Intensity. Otherwise it's pretty good...
When you have to heal in a group you won't be in your DPS gear, thus getting minimal benefit from Nurturing Instinct. Also, Nature's Focus (while pretty good) isn't that critical. You're better off amping up your mana regeneration, and you definitely want full Imp. LotP and Feral Instinct.
When you have to heal in a group you won't be in your DPS gear, thus getting minimal benefit from Nurturing Instinct. Also, Nature's Focus (while pretty good) isn't that critical. You're better off amping up your mana regeneration, and you definitely want full Imp. LotP and Feral Instinct.
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=0ZxhGscroezwoVx0z
Too lazy to back it up...and the people above already did.
Edited, Aug 31st 2007 5:30pm by EtherealSin
Too lazy to back it up...and the people above already did.
Edited, Aug 31st 2007 5:30pm by EtherealSin
Take it from someone who had Furor from 20-50, and then respecced into full Feral for Mangle:
Furor is nice, but you can live without it for ~10 levels; just means staying in cat more or using Enrage instead of shifting back and forth. Respec your tree and get Mangle asap, it's that damn good.
Like so. You can do NG if you're on a pvp server and find yourself in those situations a lot instead of that first point in Furor, but that's what I had at 51; I then got the rest of Furor, Naturalist, and OoC, then went back for SotF and Intensity since I fully intend to be a tank at 70.
Furor is nice, but you can live without it for ~10 levels; just means staying in cat more or using Enrage instead of shifting back and forth. Respec your tree and get Mangle asap, it's that damn good.
Like so. You can do NG if you're on a pvp server and find yourself in those situations a lot instead of that first point in Furor, but that's what I had at 51; I then got the rest of Furor, Naturalist, and OoC, then went back for SotF and Intensity since I fully intend to be a tank at 70.
::chuckles:: It's funny, it just never occurred to me skip the endgame talents till I was higher level. I knew what I wanted by 70, but exercised poor planing in regard to my current level. I knew when I hit 51 I was capable of getting mangle but early on I stuck two in Furor and debated on just getting Mangle at 53, but after reading about it most of the afternoon. I will certainly respec, I'll drop Drop Nature's Focus and Nurturing Instinct, and work more on my healing set of gear to make up for it.
::bows:: Thank you all for your input. ^^
::bows:: Thank you all for your input. ^^
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