Browsing through the threads it looks like everyone is pretty much bashing daggers, leveling up I've exclusively been combat swords but now I am in a bit of a bind.
Consecutive weeks in kara I have gotten the Emerald Ripper (Moroes) followed by the Blade of the Unrequited (Julianne). Without going into my previous sword gear as that would be a huge seperate convo about those vs. the daggers... I'd just like advice on recommended builds for someone who really never used 2 daggers.
As far as what I do in game at this point... run heroics and do kara majority of the time with a bit of arena action.
Right now I'm thinking something along the line of 15/41/5 but all advice would be appreciated.
Thanks...
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Thats my build as well. There are those that don't care for combat daggers, but I do just fine with it. Test drive it for a few weeks and while doing so, grind up the few gold you'll need to switch back incase you don't like it.
If you find that 15/41/5 isn't working out for you, there's always 41/20, a build of which I am a huge proponent.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
The one I use that I like is the 15/41/5. Good bang for your buck. In solo PvE I destroy everything in my path farming wise, in raids I do enough to keep myself noticed.
Demea wrote:
If you find that 15/41/5 isn't working out for you, there's always 41/20, a build of which I am a huge proponent.
I used to do 41/20 and enjoyed it. It has the most insane combo point generation out there.
With that said, the reason I went to 15/41/5 is that in my opinion it is not as positionaly dependent as 41/20.
Granted, I do much more damage while backstabbing, but in the event that I find myself in front of the target, I can still do very nice damage.
I realize that the combo point generation of 41/20 will allow enough stuns to keep you behind the target, but it just seems to me that 15/41/5 does more damage and I really missed blade flury from my days as a combat swords rogue.
Jamboo the Ludicrous wrote:
With that said, the reason I went to 15/41/5 is that in my opinion it is not as positionaly dependent as 41/20.
I fail to see how non-position dependent combat daggers is over mutilate, since both attacks require you to be behind your target. /boggle
There was also a thread several months ago that either Nooble made or responded to, regarding damage between Mutilate and Backstab. End result being that Muti does a higher average damage than backstab.
Jamboo the Ludicrous wrote:
With that said, the reason I went to 15/41/5 is that in my opinion it is not as positionaly dependent as 41/20.
Both require you to be behind your target to do optimal damage. If you're not behind the target the majority of the time, you're not playing the spec correctly.
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Granted, I do much more damage while backstabbing, but in the event that I find myself in front of the target, I can still do very nice damage.
I do decent damage with SS/Shiv as well, but only to work up enough CPs to Kidney Shot and get back behind my target. Again, if you're spending a lot of time in front of your target with any sort of daggers build, you're not playing the spec correctly.
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I realize that the combo point generation of 41/20 will allow enough stuns to keep you behind the target, but it just seems to me that 15/41/5 does more damage and I really missed blade flury from my days as a combat swords rogue.
If I could have Mutilate and BF/AR... fapfapfap
Anywho, combat daggers is a group build. You don't solo with a combat daggers build. I can't imagine why you'd need to worry about your SS/Shiv damage with that sort of build for any reason, so I don't see how that's a valid selling point for 15/41/5 over 41/20/0.
Jophiel wrote:
I managed to be both retarded and entertaining.
I used to be a combat raid rogue at level 60. I am now a 41/20 mutilate raid rogue and I love it. I enjoy the versitility of the build for both pvp and pve and no longer get as bored in raids.
I've plugged in my build and gear into the rogue spreadsheet and end up getting 50dps more out of mutilate then I would using combat.
Given comments above - try both! It seems like a lot of people like both, see how YOU feel about it.
I've plugged in my build and gear into the rogue spreadsheet and end up getting 50dps more out of mutilate then I would using combat.
Given comments above - try both! It seems like a lot of people like both, see how YOU feel about it.
Demea wrote:
Jamboo the Ludicrous wrote:
With that said, the reason I went to 15/41/5 is that in my opinion it is not as positionaly dependent as 41/20.
Both require you to be behind your target to do optimal damage. If you're not behind the target the majority of the time, you're not playing the spec correctly.
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Granted, I do much more damage while backstabbing, but in the event that I find myself in front of the target, I can still do very nice damage.
I do decent damage with SS/Shiv as well, but only to work up enough CPs to Kidney Shot and get back behind my target. Again, if you're spending a lot of time in front of your target with any sort of daggers build, you're not playing the spec correctly.
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I realize that the combo point generation of 41/20 will allow enough stuns to keep you behind the target, but it just seems to me that 15/41/5 does more damage and I really missed blade flury from my days as a combat swords rogue.
If I could have Mutilate and BF/AR... fapfapfap
Anywho, combat daggers is a group build. You don't solo with a combat daggers build. I can't imagine why you'd need to worry about your SS/Shiv damage with that sort of build for any reason, so I don't see how that's a valid selling point for 15/41/5 over 41/20/0.
I do try to stay behind the target as much as possible and I do try to run more dungeons than solo play. With this being said, there are occasions when I find myself in front of 2 mobs and thats when I like my blade fury and adrenaline rush.
Not to mention combat potency keeps my energy level high.
Don't get me wrong guys, I'm not knocking mutilate. I just feel that the talents in combat daggers allow more positional versatility than mutilate.
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