i once read that when you hit outlands as a prot pally, the amount of mobs you can take doubles. In azeroth, i could take 3-5 mobs. As a 61 pally, i can only take 2-3 mobs my level. When does it get better? or is it a lack of gear on my part? i know how to AoE grind/tank...i have been doing if for about 20 levels.
heres my gear:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Aggramar&n=Huskyboy
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Your gear does not seem bad (granted I don't AoE grind but i have geard about it, it just doesnt seem like you have alot of +spell damage gear, your focusing on str. (it looks like) and sence you can only hit 1 mob at a time thats not gonna work out too well, meanwhile your concecratin gets a huge boost from spell damage AND is damaging all the mobs, maybe your attack sequence is lacking?
Also, the accual mobs your grinding on has a huge impact on how well you do. DW fast hitting mobs will be your strong point.
EDIT: You said you knew what you where doing.
Edited, Aug 26th 2007 9:51:57pm by Mizzoulover
Also, the accual mobs your grinding on has a huge impact on how well you do. DW fast hitting mobs will be your strong point.
EDIT: You said you knew what you where doing.
Edited, Aug 26th 2007 9:51:57pm by Mizzoulover
Part of it is gear, part of it is unreal expectations.
Perhaps a geared lvl 70 prot pally can chew through 8+ mobs. You aren't a geared lvl 70. You are a lvl 61 leveling in mediocre gear. Even if you got pimped out you probably wouldnt want to or be able to grind +8 mobs at your level.
Perhaps a geared lvl 70 prot pally can chew through 8+ mobs. You aren't a geared lvl 70. You are a lvl 61 leveling in mediocre gear. Even if you got pimped out you probably wouldnt want to or be able to grind +8 mobs at your level.
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bodhisattva wrote:
Part of it is gear, part of it is unreal expectations.
Perhaps a geared lvl 70 prot pally can chew through 8+ mobs.
Perhaps a geared lvl 70 prot pally can chew through 8+ mobs.
On my Paladin, I can take 18-24 mobs at once, using two epics (http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30678 of Sorcerer), and Libram of Heroics (Dunno the name), gives me 5.1% more block for Holy Shield, not particularly usefull when you've got 24 mobs banging you.
The reason I can take that many, is due to Colossul Figurine, If I pop it just before Holy Shield, at around 30% hp, (Around 3.1k) if I'm fortunate with Redoubt procs, it'll finish the 20 seconds OVERHEALING me. I normally take a few healing pots and grab a Healthstone from any Warlocks I pass, but the real reason I can take so many is from the healing from that trinket.
Armory r here: http://eu.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Emerald+Dream&n=Rockcruncher
Edited, Aug 27th 2007 1:03pm by mooblareig
Wow. 18-24 mobs of the same level?
18-24 lvl 70 mobs?
We are talking equal level mobs.
We are talking equal level mobs.
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bodhisattva wrote:
18-24 lvl 70 mobs?
Yes. http://www.wowhead.com/?npc=21179 They hit about once per second for about 30-60 with Sanc up. When pulling these they're normally either just starting to duel (After respawning) so they're on about 5500-6500 HP to begin with - Redoubt's up for most of the fight, so they're taking a continuous 26 from Ret Aura, 48~ from BoSanc, 90-100 and from Consecration when I have the mana, per second. Every 8 Seconds some of them get 200 Extra damage.
Not particularly hard, although pulling can be frustrating with the patrolling elite.
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i once read that when you hit outlands as a prot pally, the amount of mobs you can take doubles. In azeroth, i could take 3-5 mobs. As a 61 pally, i can only take 2-3 mobs my level. When does it get better? or is it a lack of gear on my part? i know how to AoE grind/tank...i have been doing if for about 20 levels.
heres my gear:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-...;n=Huskyboy
heres my gear:
http://www.wowarmory.com/character-...;n=Huskyboy
When I was first in Outland I could handle up to 13, very most I was able to survive. I made a video when I had her on my old server where I took on 10 total, 2 of which were healers at the exact same level as your Pally: http://youtube.com/watch?v=K4DTljCJj2g
Not the greatest example as I switched from Ret to Prot at 60, and was new to the AoE scene, but it gives you a rough example. Note this was also before the Prot tree changes as well.
Anyway, your gear isn't bad, and if you have the skills, maybe you should just try to bite off more than you think you can chew sometimes. I meant to take on 7 in that run and ended up pulling 3 more and I was fine.
Yesterday I hit 70, and after being Ret from 65-69 I went back to Prot, did some grinding last night. My gear isn't the best as I JUST switched and I've only run 4 instances or so since the switch but i tried some more AoE grinding(as I find it as fun as it gets) and I'm able to handle 10-12 melee mobs of the same lvl at a time with blues/greens.
GL!
Why worry about what someone or a board full of someones tells you is the amount of mobs a Prot Pally can or can not take on? If you can kill X number of mobs in one pull, then you can grind that many. If X+1 kills you, then that is one too many.
There is no magic number out there.
There is no magic number out there.
well i was really looking forward to filling up the screen with numbers...i absolutely love AoE grinding. Specifically, i was really just disappointed with actually fighting less people per pull. Actually considering the switch to ret now.
How are you going about your AoE grinding? I'm LV62 and can take 5-6+ my level, with somewhat comparable gear.
Here's what I do. Bear in mind I've specced into Holy for healing and for Spiritual Focus, so I get no pushback when healing:
Put up Imp. Righteous Fury, Ret. Aura, and Seal of Wisdom. Mount up and gather the mobs. Throw up Holy Shield, judge Wisdom, reseal Wisdom, then start whacking away. I keep holy shield up constantly and I use Rank 2 Consecration liberally. When my HP gets low, I put up Concentration Aura and heal up, then back to Ret. Aura. Keep seal and judgement of Wisdom up at all times.
Using this method, I can usually take on as many mobs my level as I'm able to gather, within reason (e.g. half of them can't be casters).
Is that what you're doing? I can see it being a pain if you're not specced up to Spiritual Focus.
Here's what I do. Bear in mind I've specced into Holy for healing and for Spiritual Focus, so I get no pushback when healing:
Put up Imp. Righteous Fury, Ret. Aura, and Seal of Wisdom. Mount up and gather the mobs. Throw up Holy Shield, judge Wisdom, reseal Wisdom, then start whacking away. I keep holy shield up constantly and I use Rank 2 Consecration liberally. When my HP gets low, I put up Concentration Aura and heal up, then back to Ret. Aura. Keep seal and judgement of Wisdom up at all times.
Using this method, I can usually take on as many mobs my level as I'm able to gather, within reason (e.g. half of them can't be casters).
Is that what you're doing? I can see it being a pain if you're not specced up to Spiritual Focus.
well, i do have it pretty similar...ret aura, RF, BoSanc or BoWisdom, use AS or mount to pull, consecrate once or twice with the highest rank, and if i hav enough mobs to not waste the mana, use HS constantly. only real dif is i use SoLight, judged and sealed, not wisdom. that way i dont have to heal, as i dont have spiritual focus as u pointed out.
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only real dif is i use SoLight, judged and sealed, not wisdom. that way i dont have to heal, as i dont have spiritual focus as u pointed out.
Yeah, that's the big difference between you and I at least. You can turn sealed/judged SoW into a whole lot more HP than you get from sealed/judged SoL.
i realize that, only prob is i dont hav spiritual focus to heal myself with a spell while im being attacked
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i realize that, only prob is i dont hav spiritual focus to heal myself with a spell while im being attacked
I do it the same way. SoL so I can put points into Imp Ret Aura. But the Points in Holy for uninterrupted heals and SoW Judged and Sealed sounds interesting as well, might have to try that.
im startin to think that is the right advice. The other day i just randomly killed some 58 vultures (still in outlands) and i could take 6 pretty easy. Guess a few fights where 3 guys got me way low lowered my confidence.
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maybe you should just try to bite off more than you think you can chew sometimes
Very interesting subject.
My thinking is, way low.. isnt dying.
Can someone link or post me how to do this Aoe grinding effectively at say lvl 40+?
Might have to respec to prot (I kinda like tanking in groups neways over healing) just to try this for 8-10 levels, then deciding which I like better.
Thanks.
My thinking is, way low.. isnt dying.
Can someone link or post me how to do this Aoe grinding effectively at say lvl 40+?
Might have to respec to prot (I kinda like tanking in groups neways over healing) just to try this for 8-10 levels, then deciding which I like better.
Thanks.
orickruns wrote:
Can someone link or post me how to do this Aoe grinding effectively at say lvl 40+?
This is the general idea:
Gildaren wrote:
Put up Imp. Righteous Fury, Ret. Aura, and Seal of Wisdom. Mount up and gather the mobs. Throw up Holy Shield, judge Wisdom, reseal Wisdom, then start whacking away. I keep holy shield up constantly and I use Rank 2 Consecration liberally. When my HP gets low, I put up Concentration Aura and heal up, then back to Ret. Aura. Keep seal and judgement of Wisdom up at all times.
Using this method, I can usually take on as many mobs my level as I'm able to gather, within reason (e.g. half of them can't be casters).
Using this method, I can usually take on as many mobs my level as I'm able to gather, within reason (e.g. half of them can't be casters).
If you're not specced up to Spiritual Attunement, it seems you'll want to seal/judge Light instead of Wisdom.
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