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well today i made 2 arena teams a 2v2 and a 3v3. I got a resto druid,Mage and Me (Combat Swords rogue) in the 2v2 Team. And for the 3v3 i got the same resto druid, Mage, Marksman hunter and Me. Im thinking of getting a pally or lock any suggestons? And also we did some matches today but we end up losing a lot.We try to sheep, sap but it isnt enough and this is in both teams. What are some good stratageys to use? Kill healer first or the others? and use as much CC as possible and gang up on the rest or each person takes another person?
Tell your druid to stop sucking?
Honestly, it sounds like you don't know a lot about the arena.
Get resilience gear if you want to do well, and everyone on your team needs to have 10k+ HP.
I need more info if I'm to judge further than that; armory profiles would be helpful.
Honestly, it sounds like you don't know a lot about the arena.
Get resilience gear if you want to do well, and everyone on your team needs to have 10k+ HP.
I need more info if I'm to judge further than that; armory profiles would be helpful.
Great 2v2 teams:
Rogue and Druid:
Strengths: Good against most combos due to both people being hidden at the start.
Weaknesses: Any team with a paladin really hurts you.
Rogue and Shadow Priest:
Strengths: Ridiculous burst damage, Mass Dispel, Silence, Wounding Poison, Kick, continuous stunlock, AoE Fear and Blind make this a pretty bad *** combo.
Weaknesses: Very low healing so if someone gets more than a few heals off you're in trouble. Also, the Shadow Priest is visible at the start so he'll either have to hide or you'll need to hover close by to catch whoever you're looking for.
A good 3v3 setup goes like this:
1 Healer
1 Physical DPS
1 Magical DPS
General Tactics:
Although healers are a good target, sometimes its best to just control them and kill their DPS'rs. It really depends on the situation and there is no all-inclusive arena strategy: you just have to adapt.
Rogue and Druid:
Strengths: Good against most combos due to both people being hidden at the start.
Weaknesses: Any team with a paladin really hurts you.
Rogue and Shadow Priest:
Strengths: Ridiculous burst damage, Mass Dispel, Silence, Wounding Poison, Kick, continuous stunlock, AoE Fear and Blind make this a pretty bad *** combo.
Weaknesses: Very low healing so if someone gets more than a few heals off you're in trouble. Also, the Shadow Priest is visible at the start so he'll either have to hide or you'll need to hover close by to catch whoever you're looking for.
A good 3v3 setup goes like this:
1 Healer
1 Physical DPS
1 Magical DPS
General Tactics:
Although healers are a good target, sometimes its best to just control them and kill their DPS'rs. It really depends on the situation and there is no all-inclusive arena strategy: you just have to adapt.
Shaolinz wrote:
Great 2v2 teams:
Rogue and Shadow Priest
Rogue and Shadow Priest
Arrrrg... my buddy's a holy priest (healing). He says he can't so easily respecc as his gear is really heal oriented... are we gonna suck in 2 v 2 arenas?
nostra
No, Shadow Priests just kick more *** with rogues than Holy Priests do. Setup only matters intensely in the upper brackets.
A rogue with any form of a priest is a good idea though, mainly due to the fact that priests are an anti-paladin with their dispel. As it stands now, War/Pally is the strongest and hence most popular class combo out there. If you made your team revolve around just being able to bring that combo down, it will serve you well.
A rogue with any form of a priest is a good idea though, mainly due to the fact that priests are an anti-paladin with their dispel. As it stands now, War/Pally is the strongest and hence most popular class combo out there. If you made your team revolve around just being able to bring that combo down, it will serve you well.
Shaolinz wrote:
No, Shadow Priests just kick more *** with rogues than Holy Priests do. Setup only matters intensely in the upper brackets.
A rogue with any form of a priest is a good idea though, mainly due to the fact that priests are an anti-paladin with their dispel. As it stands now, War/Pally is the strongest and hence most popular class combo out there. If you made your team revolve around just being able to bring that combo down, it will serve you well.
A rogue with any form of a priest is a good idea though, mainly due to the fact that priests are an anti-paladin with their dispel. As it stands now, War/Pally is the strongest and hence most popular class combo out there. If you made your team revolve around just being able to bring that combo down, it will serve you well.
What?
WHAT?
Are you stupid?
Holy/disc priests are the best partner for a rogue in 2v2. 99% of the rogues you'll see at high ratings are there with 1) a healer or 2) a lock.
Reason? Rogues have very little survivability when placed in front of classes like warriors, BM hunters, frost mages, etc. With a healer whose HPS outheals your opponents DPS (i.e. a priest who has large heals), many DPS/DPS classes become trivial based on how geared you and your priest are.
Just to put it in perspective, my priest partner had never seriously done PvP before, ever. With him as a 28/33/0 Blessed Resilience spec and with a measly 8k HP self buffed with around 70 resilience, we got to ~1600 in 22 games. He's all but quit his priest now, but we did very well together.
I'd honestly be shocked if a shadow priest can do better than a holy/disc in conjunction with a rogue. That's what's called a DPS/DPS team, and a shadow priest doesn't put out enough damage, nor have enough CC to make it work. The best two classes IMO to go DPS/DPS with are locks and frost mages.
We disagree there then.
Macabre's highest 2v2 team is a Rogue/Shadow Priest combo (although they may have been passed by pally war).
This may change on next patch where dots are affected by resilience, cause right now shadow priest's damage is unaffected by gear progression.
Edit:
Locks and Frost Mages can't heal you ever, and neither one can do anything against a paladin in 2v2. Priests can pop that bubble off as soon as its on (which makes priests really good period), and a shadow priest can help you burn one guy down ridiculously fast. And as for Shadow Priests not having good dps... the second highest DPS in my guild's raid is this Shadow Priest Tabion (who happens to be my 2v2 partner, first is a combat sword rogue who goes by Hotcell).
Shadow Priests can also switch forms to help heal you after the initial guy dies. In other words, a rogue/sp combo basically uses the rogue's blind/sap and the sp's fear abilities to keep the DPS character controlled while they use their combined DPS to take out the healer and quickly (Mass Dispel assures that no healing class, including paladins, can take this beating). The Shadow Priest then becomes a healing priest if needed while you 2 on 1 the remaining DPS'r. It works very very well, and it's scary when it is pulled off correctly.
Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 2:38:36pm by Shaolinz
Macabre's highest 2v2 team is a Rogue/Shadow Priest combo (although they may have been passed by pally war).
This may change on next patch where dots are affected by resilience, cause right now shadow priest's damage is unaffected by gear progression.
Edit:
Locks and Frost Mages can't heal you ever, and neither one can do anything against a paladin in 2v2. Priests can pop that bubble off as soon as its on (which makes priests really good period), and a shadow priest can help you burn one guy down ridiculously fast. And as for Shadow Priests not having good dps... the second highest DPS in my guild's raid is this Shadow Priest Tabion (who happens to be my 2v2 partner, first is a combat sword rogue who goes by Hotcell).
Shadow Priests can also switch forms to help heal you after the initial guy dies. In other words, a rogue/sp combo basically uses the rogue's blind/sap and the sp's fear abilities to keep the DPS character controlled while they use their combined DPS to take out the healer and quickly (Mass Dispel assures that no healing class, including paladins, can take this beating). The Shadow Priest then becomes a healing priest if needed while you 2 on 1 the remaining DPS'r. It works very very well, and it's scary when it is pulled off correctly.
Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 2:38:36pm by Shaolinz
Shaolinz wrote:
We disagree there then.
Macabre's highest 2v2 team is a Rogue/Shadow Priest combo (although they may have been passed by pally war).
This may change on next patch where dots are affected by resilience, cause right now shadow priest's damage is unaffected by gear progression.
Macabre's highest 2v2 team is a Rogue/Shadow Priest combo (although they may have been passed by pally war).
This may change on next patch where dots are affected by resilience, cause right now shadow priest's damage is unaffected by gear progression.
Except for Mind Blast and SW:D, right?
Oh, wait. Those are their main damage spells. My bad.
Find me the highest rated rogue/spriest, because here is the highest rated rogue/holy priest team. (2371)
That's the highest rogue in 2v2 in the world, btw.
Here's another good link for you to look at, as well.
http://www.geekboys.org/arena/index/2/us/priest/all/all/
Ignoring SW:P will get you. And yes, the best team in the world may be a rogue/disc priest but that doesn't necessarily make it the best suited combo. It just means those players are really good period and work together extremely well. We're not talking about skill here, we're talking about easy mode and Rogue/SP is a much easier group dynamic than rogue/holy (much to the same way that Pally/War is an easy mode combo although not the best).
I've got you here: ever since arena has came out you've been calling me a newb, but my 2v2 climbed from a pretty low rating to the 1660 it is now in just one week when I was duo'd with a Shadow Priest. If you're right and I'm a newb, then that proves its an easy mode combo. If you're right and its not an easy mode combo, then that proves I'm not a newb.
I win either way you see.
I've got you here: ever since arena has came out you've been calling me a newb, but my 2v2 climbed from a pretty low rating to the 1660 it is now in just one week when I was duo'd with a Shadow Priest. If you're right and I'm a newb, then that proves its an easy mode combo. If you're right and its not an easy mode combo, then that proves I'm not a newb.
I win either way you see.
No one is dismissing the validity of Rogue/Spriest, but for you to dismiss Rogue/DHpriest is pretty big.
Classes also don't make the team. Talent does. Any PVP specc'd team, yes any, can hit upto 1700 with ease. After that, it is 65% talent, 35% class matrix's.
Classes also don't make the team. Talent does. Any PVP specc'd team, yes any, can hit upto 1700 with ease. After that, it is 65% talent, 35% class matrix's.
1660 isn't a high rating, Shaolinz.
My 5v5 team does 10 games a week and we're at ~1650, and this is with enhancement shamans, priests with 5k HP, etc.
I mean grats and all on getting ~100 more rating than my 2v2 with 70 more games played, but it's really not that big a deal.
My 5v5 team does 10 games a week and we're at ~1650, and this is with enhancement shamans, priests with 5k HP, etc.
I mean grats and all on getting ~100 more rating than my 2v2 with 70 more games played, but it's really not that big a deal.
1660 technically ranks within the top 25% of Arena Ranks so its not a low one either (my 1520 3v3 team placed high enough to get the Challenger title, which was top 30%. Not impressive in the grand scheme of things but that just proves there are a LOT of people who just suck).
And I didn't say it was high to begin with, I merely stated that it was incredibly low before a shadow priest joined my team (talking 1400's).
And I didn't say it was high to begin with, I merely stated that it was incredibly low before a shadow priest joined my team (talking 1400's).
Shaolinz wrote:
1660 technically ranks within the top 25% of Arena Ranks so its not a low one either (my 1520 3v3 team placed high enough to get the Challenger title, which was top 30%. Not impressive in the grand scheme of things but that just proves there are a LOT of people who just suck).
And I didn't say it was high to begin with, I merely stated that it was incredibly low before a shadow priest joined my team (talking 1400's).
And I didn't say it was high to begin with, I merely stated that it was incredibly low before a shadow priest joined my team (talking 1400's).
Yeah, out of how many arena teams?
30% doesn't mean **** when there are ~2 million teams.
rogue shadow pri is decent
but its flawed
im running rogue/heal druid atm (only 1668 though grr, i want my season 1 rating back!)
i personally can eat thru a full 2x s1/3x s2 resilience stacked shadow pri in the length of a adren rush (being ud is awesome)
i just sap the other guy if hes visible, cs,ss,gouge, blind the other guy, AR into a imp EA
then vanish into a cs, and just ruin his world
"but what if the other guy trinkets your blind?!"
druid, cyclone, root if hes melee (your rogue combo falls into that hardcore
druid bearforms if he gets targetted, its a nice combo (sometimes we even root the pri so he cant even run, then i dun gotta worry bout shiv for a crip)
its a nice makeup in all honesty, just has a low margin for error
i would never take a shadow pri over a full disc pri though
but its flawed
im running rogue/heal druid atm (only 1668 though grr, i want my season 1 rating back!)
i personally can eat thru a full 2x s1/3x s2 resilience stacked shadow pri in the length of a adren rush (being ud is awesome)
i just sap the other guy if hes visible, cs,ss,gouge, blind the other guy, AR into a imp EA
then vanish into a cs, and just ruin his world
"but what if the other guy trinkets your blind?!"
druid, cyclone, root if hes melee (your rogue combo falls into that hardcore
druid bearforms if he gets targetted, its a nice combo (sometimes we even root the pri so he cant even run, then i dun gotta worry bout shiv for a crip)
its a nice makeup in all honesty, just has a low margin for error
i would never take a shadow pri over a full disc pri though
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