ok, macros that people make (ie. just making one macro to sap, pickpocket, then cs your target) are confusing. first off, it's not working for me. I've never really used those kinds of macros before; I just use the good ole' fashion mouse, and do it myself. I got curious one day and decided to try it...but it didn't work. I typed in what tons of people use, but all it did was sap. it didn't pickpocket, it didn't cheap shot, nothin but whatever was first.
another thing is, why do you use those? has it ever occured to you that things can go wrong, or different in battle. atleast to me it's different. sometimes my SS misses; if I was using a macro, and 1/5 typed in SSs missed, then you would only get 4 combo points, am I right? all I can say is, it's not my thing to have everything you think you need all in one button, because one simply cannot predict what will happen in a battle.
even though I won't be using them (most likely) I'd still like to try them. I've never really given a thought to them before, but I'm a curious creature xP so if anyone would be kind enough to post some simple macros that I could test out on the PTR or something, that would be great. yea, I have a rogue on the PTR, so you can give me any abilities (shiv, envenom, etc.)
thx ahead of time :)
Edit: oh and I want to edit this in instead of making a whole new topic..how do you make a link, but with just the name? like, I see people linking stuff like, 'click here for my armory page' and you can click on the word 'here' and it's a link. how do you do that? thx
Edited, Aug 22nd 2007 12:06:27am by Sneekky
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Sneekky wrote:
ok, macros that people make (ie. just making one macro to sap, pickpocket, then cs your target) are confusing. first off, it's not working for me.
It's not working for you... cause you haven't done your homework! Else you'd have noticed that:
1) you must be doing "grammar" errors... for instance, after some actions, you need to include a "pause" in the macro... (see below where I inserted "/stopcasting"),
2) you can't use a macro that will put you in stealth, start the coffee machine, pickpocket, cs, prepare coffee, muti, ks, muti, muti, blind, stealth, sap, print a "coffee's ready, got get it from the kitchen" message on your screen, then resume with cs, muti, etc....
Macros are great for some things but can't do everything either. I have for instance used macros to switch from sword to dagger when going stealth... then another one to switch back to sword after ambushing (this was at low level before getting cs). But you have to be very careful about how you design your macros else they can ***** you bad. Sometimes, addons do the same thing better than macros, so don't bother with macros in these cases.
Now, as for the macro you mentioned... it can't do all you mentioned. Just keep it simple:
"/cast Pickpocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap shot rank ..."
Not 100% sure about the spelling, but that shouldn't be a problem if you do it right, i.e. you don't type the name of the ability (pickpocket, attack) yourself, you shift-click it. IMPORTANT: note that you have to modify your macro when you level up and acquire a new rank in the attack, your macro won't be updated automatically.
I have a pickpocket macro on ALL my stealth attacks (including sap) and it's great, I see absolutely NO reason not to have this. And nobody has ever given me one so I dare to say it'd be dumb not to have this. Not doing this wastes you a lot of time and efforts (and you always have the risk to forget to pickpocket one mob, especially in stress situations, whereas I pickpocket 100% of my mobs).
Those are the only macros I use as this time (strictly for combat I mean), if you need more, google them, it's easy to find on your own.
Sneekky wrote:
how do you make a link, but with just the name?
You could've discovered yourself this by just quoting a message including such a link and checking how they're made, but here you are nonetheless:
[ link=http://www.xxx]yyy[/link ]
where:
1) http://www.xxx is the internet adress,
2) yyy is the name you wish to appear as a link
3) you should remove the space after the first [ and the one before the last ]
nostra
Edit: spelling
Edited, Aug 22nd 2007 9:51:25am by nostraaa
Quote:
"/cast Pickpocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap shot rank ..."
Not 100% sure about the spelling, but that shouldn't be a problem if you do it right, i.e. you don't type the name of the ability (pickpocket, attack) yourself, you shift-click it. IMPORTANT: note that you have to modify your macro when you level up and acquire a new rank in the attack, your macro won't be updated automatically.
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap shot rank ..."
Not 100% sure about the spelling, but that shouldn't be a problem if you do it right, i.e. you don't type the name of the ability (pickpocket, attack) yourself, you shift-click it. IMPORTANT: note that you have to modify your macro when you level up and acquire a new rank in the attack, your macro won't be updated automatically.
Well, no you don't have to update the macro when you level up. Just don't put the rank modifier in. Also I gave up on the exact pickpocket macro you show here. It doesn't always grab every item. I've verified this many times.
Melechesh - Bronzebeard
rfecteau wrote:
Well, no you don't have to update the macro when you level up. Just don't put the rank modifier in.
As I clearly mentioned in my reply, I never type but shift+click to include an attack in a macro so as to avoid spelling mistakes. This automatically includes the rank, which I assumed was needed. If you say it's not and can be removed without the macro disfunctioning, it's good news. But my response remains true: if you shift+click and this includes the rank, you've got to update it.
rfecteau wrote:
Also I gave up on the exact pickpocket macro you show here. It doesn't always grab every item. I've verified this many times.
Do you mean that the macro doesn't give the auto-loot enough time to grab all the items all the time? I regularly loot at least 3 items with this macro and I've never noticed that it would leave some items behind... And even if it was the case and I had to choose between (1) my macro with this possible flaw and (2) no macro and the risk to sometimes forget to pickpocket (leading to certain losses of items) and the certainty to always waste time pressing the pickpocket key manually, I'd pick (1) for sure.
Enlighen me if you've got a better solution.
nostra
well thx for the info nostraa, but there's only one problem..I tried that macro before. I made a macro, I typed in:
/cast Pickpocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap Shot
and it didn't work, all it did was pickpocket. then I tried spacing out 'stopcasting' incase that was the reason; it still didn't work. I added 'Rank X' to cheap shot, still didn't work. What's up with that? maybe I spelled something wrong, but I'll try the macro again today.
another question that I just thought about: when I used that macro and it would only pickpocket, it wouldn't loot it for me as well. am I supposed to loot it manually, or is it supposed to be auto loot?
I guess it doesn't matter too much if I leave some items behind, the money's the stuff I'm really going for, and missing a couple grey items to vendor isn't that bad. thx for the info guys ;)
/cast Pickpocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap Shot
and it didn't work, all it did was pickpocket. then I tried spacing out 'stopcasting' incase that was the reason; it still didn't work. I added 'Rank X' to cheap shot, still didn't work. What's up with that? maybe I spelled something wrong, but I'll try the macro again today.
another question that I just thought about: when I used that macro and it would only pickpocket, it wouldn't loot it for me as well. am I supposed to loot it manually, or is it supposed to be auto loot?
I guess it doesn't matter too much if I leave some items behind, the money's the stuff I'm really going for, and missing a couple grey items to vendor isn't that bad. thx for the info guys ;)
Sneekky wrote:
well thx for the info nostraa, but there's only one problem..I tried that macro before. I made a macro, I typed in:
/cast Pickpocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap Shot
and it didn't work, all it did was pickpocket. then I tried spacing out 'stopcasting' incase that was the reason; it still didn't work. I added 'Rank X' to cheap shot, still didn't work. What's up with that? maybe I spelled something wrong, but I'll try the macro again today.
another question that I just thought about: when I used that macro and it would only pickpocket, it wouldn't loot it for me as well. am I supposed to loot it manually, or is it supposed to be auto loot?
I guess it doesn't matter too much if I leave some items behind, the money's the stuff I'm really going for, and missing a couple grey items to vendor isn't that bad. thx for the info guys ;)
/cast Pickpocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap Shot
and it didn't work, all it did was pickpocket. then I tried spacing out 'stopcasting' incase that was the reason; it still didn't work. I added 'Rank X' to cheap shot, still didn't work. What's up with that? maybe I spelled something wrong, but I'll try the macro again today.
another question that I just thought about: when I used that macro and it would only pickpocket, it wouldn't loot it for me as well. am I supposed to loot it manually, or is it supposed to be auto loot?
I guess it doesn't matter too much if I leave some items behind, the money's the stuff I'm really going for, and missing a couple grey items to vendor isn't that bad. thx for the info guys ;)
You have to press it again. Blizzard doesnt allow you to daisy chain macros with 1 button press anymore.
Turn on Auto Loot in the interface options.
wow o.O the truth seems hard to believe on this one. I always thought macros were there to make things faster and easier, and with one click of the button...sorry but can anyone varify this? thx for that info though, I would've never thought of that...
Yes you must turn on auto-loot, but I never had to click twice to get it to work.
Melechesh - Bronzebeard
Melechesh - Bronzebeard
fwiw i have the same macro on all my stealth openers just changing the final attack ie. cheap shot, ambush etc. it works every time and i get every item. never had a lick of trouble with it. you do have to have auto-loot turned on though.
ok thx guys, I'll try that out the next time I'm on, if it's as useful as you guys say, I might even try some other macros out. so thx for the info
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I've got a good reason to keep pickpocket separate...
Pickpocketing without beginning combat.
Now this doesn't mean that the macro doesn't work, but if you have to hit the macro button twice anyway, you're not saving any time over hitting the other button for pickpocket. And it's good to keep pickpocket on its own key for instances, etc., where you walk up to enemies but your tank engages them first.
...so, _do_ you have to hit the macro button twice to pickpocket and then open? How does the macro know not to just pickpocket again?
Pickpocketing without beginning combat.
Now this doesn't mean that the macro doesn't work, but if you have to hit the macro button twice anyway, you're not saving any time over hitting the other button for pickpocket. And it's good to keep pickpocket on its own key for instances, etc., where you walk up to enemies but your tank engages them first.
...so, _do_ you have to hit the macro button twice to pickpocket and then open? How does the macro know not to just pickpocket again?
only hit key once to pickpocket and open, and i still have pickpocket by itself if i don't want to kill them. also have it on sap so if i'm doing cc in an instance i still get the loot. though occasionally it'll be resisted, very small chance of that though. no more often than my sap by itself gets resisted. when tank pulls and i use garrote...got pp on that too.
There seems to be a lot of confusion about how this works.
/cast Pick Pocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap Shot (or whichever opening attack you use from stealth)
Enable auto loot in the interface options.
That's it. Now with ONE button push you pick the pocket, loot the picked pocket, and attack.
You don't have to click it twice.
You don't have to assign a rank, but you do have to use correct spelling and spacing.
There's no reason to sap at the start, since even if the PP is resisted you still attack
The only time I don't get all items is if my inventory is full.
It's the simplest thing you'll ever do as a rogue. It literally makes picking pockets an automatic action. The most difficult thing involved is making sure your inventory has room for the items you are picking, and finding a use for the ridiculous amounts of poison reagents and blinding powder. Earlier today running Sethekk Halls I picked about 5g, 3 Super health pots, 2 gems, and 5 lockboxes that got me 35 blinding powder and a bunch or other poison reagents.
If you want to pick pockets without initiating combat, just do it the old fashioned way.
Just think of this as an attack macro, that also picks pockets.
Edited, Aug 22nd 2007 6:12:59pm by Grollog
/cast Pick Pocket
/stopcasting
/cast Cheap Shot (or whichever opening attack you use from stealth)
Enable auto loot in the interface options.
That's it. Now with ONE button push you pick the pocket, loot the picked pocket, and attack.
You don't have to click it twice.
You don't have to assign a rank, but you do have to use correct spelling and spacing.
There's no reason to sap at the start, since even if the PP is resisted you still attack
The only time I don't get all items is if my inventory is full.
It's the simplest thing you'll ever do as a rogue. It literally makes picking pockets an automatic action. The most difficult thing involved is making sure your inventory has room for the items you are picking, and finding a use for the ridiculous amounts of poison reagents and blinding powder. Earlier today running Sethekk Halls I picked about 5g, 3 Super health pots, 2 gems, and 5 lockboxes that got me 35 blinding powder and a bunch or other poison reagents.
If you want to pick pockets without initiating combat, just do it the old fashioned way.
Just think of this as an attack macro, that also picks pockets.
Edited, Aug 22nd 2007 6:12:59pm by Grollog
Well I have had that macro miss items without having a full inventory. The only way you would notice it though is if on a rare occasion you vanished or ran out of combat before killing the mob and then went back to it and pickpocketed again. That's how I discovered it then I started paying more attention and noticed it happening every once in awhile. If you haven't done that sort of thing then you might never know that you missed an item.
Melechesh - Bronzebeard
Melechesh - Bronzebeard
Ok, but to avoid the probmem you're pointing at, you'd need to manually loot every mob. Very annoying and a huge waste of time in my eyes, for maybe here and there getting a few more things (I live with missing a few blinding powders and healing potions a day). So I stick to my auto-loot (has to be activated, as I said above).
As for the poster who said "I do that and it doesn't work", I said that you have to shift-click to avoid spelling mistakes. The macro works perfectly. If the spelling of the wording I suggested seems incorrect, google "wow pickpocket macro" and you'll find tons of them. Try them, some work (for instance, I used /stop spellcasting instead of /stopcasting at the beginning and it also works). For god's sake, learn to google things and try it yourself, please. It does work, just try and it'll function.
What Blizzard doesn't allow anymore is one macro doing several attacks in a row (I tried this on my lock, like casting 3 instant casts in a row... it used to be possible, it's not anymore). But pickpocket + attacks still work. Similarly, I could have a macro on my lock to cast Improved Curse and then Curse of Agony in a single click.
What might confuse other posters who mentioned "clicking the macro several times" is the new castsequence macro (not so new anymore) that allows to have one single macro with several attacks that will be triggered, in a row, each time you activate it. To come back to my earlier example of instant cast spells on my lock, I could have one macro that would cast spell 1 when I click it first, then spell 2 when I click it again, then spell 3 when I press it the third time, etc.
nostra
Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 4:29:35pm by nostraaa
As for the poster who said "I do that and it doesn't work", I said that you have to shift-click to avoid spelling mistakes. The macro works perfectly. If the spelling of the wording I suggested seems incorrect, google "wow pickpocket macro" and you'll find tons of them. Try them, some work (for instance, I used /stop spellcasting instead of /stopcasting at the beginning and it also works). For god's sake, learn to google things and try it yourself, please. It does work, just try and it'll function.
What Blizzard doesn't allow anymore is one macro doing several attacks in a row (I tried this on my lock, like casting 3 instant casts in a row... it used to be possible, it's not anymore). But pickpocket + attacks still work. Similarly, I could have a macro on my lock to cast Improved Curse and then Curse of Agony in a single click.
What might confuse other posters who mentioned "clicking the macro several times" is the new castsequence macro (not so new anymore) that allows to have one single macro with several attacks that will be triggered, in a row, each time you activate it. To come back to my earlier example of instant cast spells on my lock, I could have one macro that would cast spell 1 when I click it first, then spell 2 when I click it again, then spell 3 when I press it the third time, etc.
nostra
Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 4:29:35pm by nostraaa
My solution is to have auto-loot on and manually pickpocket. Didn't seem that hard to train myself to use it since I put the pickpocket button right next to my cheap shot on the keyboard. Huge pain it is not.
Melechesh - Bronzebeard
Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 12:42:39pm by rfecteau
Melechesh - Bronzebeard
Edited, Aug 23rd 2007 12:42:39pm by rfecteau
sometimes if you lag you wont loot the items. i've never used macros but there have been times when i have hit 2,3,4 which is pp,cs,SnD and i would see the window with a box and it didnt go in my inv. This has happened to me a lot, i just need to slow down between pickpocket and cheapshot. (yes i have autoloot on, who doesn't)
This is fantastic. I have been such a bad Rogue for so long, neglecting this wonderful way to steal money and mats.
I put this macro on every stealth opener, and sap as well. It works perfectly! I don't know, maybe it's not picking up every item each time, but even if that IS the case, it's better than forgetting to PP 90% of the time!
I'm going to try the sap>PP, then manual re-PP to see if you are right Ref., maybe it is missing some.
Edited, Aug 24th 2007 12:37:10pm by Teklabz
I put this macro on every stealth opener, and sap as well. It works perfectly! I don't know, maybe it's not picking up every item each time, but even if that IS the case, it's better than forgetting to PP 90% of the time!
I'm going to try the sap>PP, then manual re-PP to see if you are right Ref., maybe it is missing some.
Edited, Aug 24th 2007 12:37:10pm by Teklabz
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