You might be a failure if...Follow

You might be a failure at your class if...

... you're a Warrior and you don't:

• Carry a shield on you at all times
• Equip said shield and a one-hander and switch to defensive stance while tanking
• Know how to tank
• Accept that you will be primarily expected to tank in parties
• Know how to manage your threat when DPS'ing

... you're a Rogue and you don't:

• Sap humanoid mobs not immune to it
• Know how to manage your threat
• Keep your Lock Picking leveled
• Keep poisons on your weapons
• Know which poisons work best in certain situations and select accordingly
• Keep reagents on you for Blind and Vanish

... you're a Hunter and you don't:

• Control your pet
• Turn Growl off in parties unless you are expected to off-tank with your pet
• Have enough ammo before you enter an instance
• Shoot
• Have enough food for your pet before you enter an instance
• Know how to manage your threat
• Know how to CC with traps if needed
• Know when and when not to AoE (including Multi-Shot)

... you're a Paladin and you don't:

• Use a one-handed weapon, shield, Righteous Fury, and Seal of Righteousness/Vengeance if Prot and/or tanking
• Turn Righteous Fury off if you're not tanking
• Know how to manage your threat
• Bless every party member including pets for the full duration of the instance
• Know which Blessings are best for every class/spec
• Judge Seal of Justice to prevent runners if applicable and no one else will/can
• Keep a spare set of gear on you for healing regardless of spec
• Keep Symbols of Divinity on you and know how to use Divine Intervention
• Cleanse as needed regardless of spec/role
• Avoid DPS'ing when it is your job to heal

... you're a Shaman and you don't:

• Buff your party with totems for the full duration of the instance
• Know how to manage your threat
• Keep a spare set of gear on you for healing regardless of spec
• Keep Ankhs on you for Reincarnation
• Avoid DPS'ing when it is your job to heal

... you're a Druid and you don't:

• Keep seeds on you for Rebirth
• Keep a spare set of gear on you for healing regardless of spec
• Know how to tank if Feral
• Accept that you will be primarily expected to tank in parties if Feral
• Know how to manage your threat
• Keep your entire party including pets buffed with Mark of the Wild/Gift of the Wild for the full duration of the instance
• Keep the tank buffed with Thorns for the full duration of the instance
• Avoid DPS'ing when it is your job to heal

... you're a Priest and you don't:

• Accept that you will primarily be expected to heal for parties even if you're Shadow
• Know how to manage your threat
• Keep a set of gear on you dedicated to healing
• Buff your entire party including pets for the full duration of the instance
• Avoid DPS'ing when it is your job to heal

... you're a Mage and you don't:

• Know how to manage your threat
• Know when and how to CC with Polymorph on any non-immune mob
• Know when and when not to AoE
• Keep every caster in your party including pets buffed with Arcane Intellect for the full duration of the instance
• Offer water/food to your party

... you're a Warlock and you don't:

• Know how to manage your threat
• Keep your Imp out in parties unless you are expected to use a different pet for some other specific purpose
• Keep someone who can rez Soulstoned for the full duration of the instance unless use and cooldown prevents you from doing so
• Know when and when not to AoE

Edited, Aug 19th 2007 3:52:30pm by Gaudion

My name is Celerann and I'm a failure as a paladin.

I sometimes miss reblessing pets for several minutes.

You might be a successful at your class if...


You get your wife to invite some of her friends over so you can AoE grind...

I frequently forget to put back up RF after I died. I usually remember by the next pull though :P

Also I dont DI as much as I should... though I'm usually the first one dead so *shrug*

I'm a failure because I'm busy getting threat while tanking and not clensing other players.

Also: If you are a paladin and your endgame spec is ret.

Everyone is taking this a little too much to the literal extreme. I'm not suggesting you have to perfect every second of your character's played time. But I don't think that this is at all an unreasonable 101 guide that every class can and should be able to adhere to or at least aim for.

I am not trying to brag at all when I say this, but to be perfectly honest I am just sick and tired of always being the one (along with my IRL friend in-game) to carry my party. I can't even count on my party members to do the most basic of things.

The Warrior doesn't Sunder when he's tanking and can't hold aggro on a single mob, let alone a couple. The Warlock Soulstones himself instead of a healer that can rez the entire party after a wipe. We wipe and we've got a Shaman, but he doesn't have a single Ankh on him so we all have to run back to the instance anyways.

I constantly feel like Don Cheadle's character, Basher, in Ocean's 11. "You tossers! You had one job to do!"


I've got nothing but respect for you Maulgak, but I'm leveling a BM Hunter at the moment myself and I just can't let this one go, especially considering how many BM Hunters I've tanked for on my Pally.

I pretty much do what you do. If there's a loose mob, I don't wait (or more specifically, don't count on) the tank to pick it up, so I pick it up with my pet. But I keep Growl off until that happens, and turn it on only when I need it. Leaving it on when you don't need it eats up Focus that can be used for offense and can interfere unnecessarily with a good tank (should you happen to have one).

Edited, Aug 18th 2007 1:25:42pm by Gaudion

good time to ask about divine intervention. I have yet to buy the reagents. I'm a healer, why would I want to sacrifice myself?

Could someone post situations where this would be useful?

and also divine intervention caused death will not decrease ur durabilities

Yes, that is a good thing to point out. Occasionally I'd DI someone that couldn't rez, IF all characters that could rez were dead, just so I could save myself the repair bill ;) One reagent is a lot less costly then 10% durability. Of course, I'd never do this if I feel we may actually need that DI later, etc.., just on rare occasions. Plus, it's funny when a non-rezzing class gets it and they're all, "WTF?? I think I need to relog ..."

Oh and the Growl thing, when I do that it's usually when I'm keeping my pet with me to avoid it getting feared or somehow aggroing more mobs. If I see something peel away from the tank, in goes the pet. If tank gets good aggro by the time it's safe to send in the pet, I'll turn Growl off. Just thought I'd clarify a bit :)

EDIT: spelling ...

Edited, Aug 19th 2007 12:32:02am by Maulgak

I'm going to pick this apart, just because I can.

- First off, gear for healing when you're not specced to heal. This point becomes null around level 70, where people really start to realize what off-specs can do. HOWEVER, make sure the group knows you'll be dps'ing/tanking and not healing before they invite you.

- In addition, some of your "requireds" aren't so required if you're running with a really, really good group. Best example I can think of is Steamvaults, slightly undergeared warrior and way overgeared holy priest (who spent most of the time smiting), 2 shadow priests, and lock. Warrior spent the time DPS'ing (except on bosses), since there was no way he would have been able to keep the mobs off us. If we weren't there specifically to get the warrior revered, it probably would have been better to have a frost mage O.o

Warriors:
- The not knowing how to tank this is big. It makes me cry that a shadow priest knows how to tank as a warrior better than some warriors :(
- Bigger thing than managing threat while DPS'ing is, I think, not trying to offtank mobs while DPS'ing (except vastly overgeared, of course).

Hunter:
- On non-trapping pulls, have a Freezing Trap either next to you or next to the healer, so any loose adds can be post-aggro CC'ed.

Paladin:
- Righteous Fury shouldn't matter much while healing. Even with RF ON, pallies still do less threat per point of healing than any other class. If you're not expecting to get aggro, but are expecting to take AoE damage or something, it can be good to leave it on. You must know when to have it on and when ot turn it off, however.
- Cleanse only when needed. There are some things that are minor or won't be a big deal, and your time would be better spent getting more aggro or not stopping the chain heals.

Shaman:
- Know which totems go with what classes. DPS warriors should always have Windfury, tanks should have Windfury (threat) or GoA (avoidance), casters should have Wrath or Tranquility (if in raids), etc.

Priest:
- Dunno why you tell them not to DPS while healing and not the other healers :P Either way, there will be downtime when no one needs healing, and if you've got the mana you can throw out some stuff, just be very careful. Wanding is preferable for priests, obviously other healers can't do that.

Warlock:
- Add that they need to warn the healers when they Hellfire, and that if they Life Tap more than 3 times in a row they also fail.

And, to DPS in general, I'll elaborate on "managing aggro." I manage my aggro differently than most people: if I think the tank can handle it, I purposely pull about 20 seconds into a boss fight. Tank taunts, I now have a 30% higher threat margin. Repeat every 10-12 seconds or so. I, of course, warn tanks who aren't used to me doing this ahead of time, and make sure not to do this on bosses that can one-shot me or those that can't be taunted.

I dispelled unstable affliction off myself in Mech as a paladin, do I win or lose?

I got ripped apart in the warlock forums when I said warlocks should not use fear or AOE's in an instance (aoe's on non elites maybe). They critisized me as my warlock is not 70 (she's 51 now). So granted, I don't know end game stuff. But a lot of noobs roll hunters and warlocks. And I've seen some really bad locks. And I'm tired of healing them. Don't they know AOE's will pull aggro? Or fear will bring in more adds? I told one once not to use fear again and he did. First (and to date only) time I dropped a pug. I don't like to create a bad name for myself as a quitter. I usually stick to the bitter end.

Anyways they say you can use fear if you slap a COR before they get to far. But this guy was not doing that. He just let the mob run out of sight.

Anyways I'm tired of dying when healing locks. When I heal them (they usually have more than one mob on them) I will pull one. And even with mail (soon to be plate) I can't take that much beating. Not as bad as my priest. My priest dies at least once and instance. Fade can only work so long... No one seems to care when the healer dies. I'm so tempted to respec my pally sometimes (though my pally hasn't died too much as a healer thankfully- in fact, my pally is my best healer). But even when I tank in pugs with my druid, the healer will wait till I'm 25% before healing me. I died a few times tanking. It's a blessing and a curse sometimes depending on others for your survival.

Edited, Aug 24th 2007 6:06:26pm by thrashering