the damage from flametongue is seperate and shows as yellow damage, from what ive seen. Ive also seen flametongue weapon damage crit. i understand spell damage will effect flametongue? So is it spell crit or weapon crit that effects flametongue weapon buff? So, might a flametongue crit proc flurry? i couldnt say because my shaman is twinked atm:) I dont have flurry yet.
The flurry description does not specify physical or magical crit. With this said, might a critical shock also proc flurry? fiery weapon enchant crit?
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No, you do not get flurry from any magical crits. It's only melee attack crits that give you flurry. I have no idea about flametongue crits though...:X
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Edited, Aug 12th 2007 2:41am by wunderwoman
Edited, Aug 12th 2007 2:41am by wunderwoman
I believe that Flametongue does use spell crit, not melee crit. It shouldn't trigger Flurry, though - despite what it says, it only triggers off melee crits, not spell crits (shocks, etc).
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So, from what has been said.. with the damage fromm flametongue weapon being a magical attack. Would a critical flametongue proc elemental focus?
i dont think it would proc elemental focus, im elemental and ive critted a flametongue and it hasnt porcc'd it is a spell dmg crit not an actual spell been cast is how i understand it
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It doesn`t proc elemental focus not because it`s melee or magical. It stands away from both - it`s weapon enchantment. For example if you get any weapon enchanting poisons such as http://www.wowhead.com/?item=31535 from qs and u use it, it will replace the last weapon enchantment (rockbiter, flamet, frost or wf).
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Have anyone heard that rogues have spells or magical effects? :p
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Have anyone heard that rogues have spells or magical effects? :p
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Have anyone heard that rogues have spells or magical effects?
They have lots of spells. There those fancy buttons you push during combat that cause damage. Melee damage in this case but still a spell. Hense the title "Spell book". And disappearing before your eyes is pretty magical in my book. If I saw someone disappear before my eyes I would consider that magic. Then again shooting lightning bolts out of your fingers is pretty magical too... Hahaha :P
- No offense intended, just joking around.
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Flametongue:
Imbue the Shaman's weapon with fire. Each hit causes 40.4 to 124.3 additional Fire damage, based on the speed of the weapon. Slower weapons cause more fire damage per swing. Lasts 30 minutes.
The fact that it's yellow damage and scales with spell damage would lead most people to think it's spell damage. Which damage wise it is. However it's the fact that it isn't a cast that causes it not to proc anything. Not because of what damage it is.
Edited, Aug 15th 2007 9:21:04am by Sercease
Tangentially related to the OP's post, I would note here that I have recently switched from Windfury to Flametongue because I've begun to accumulate a lot of spell damage bonuses at higher level (as an Elemental Shammie, now 68). By itself even the higher ranks of this spell are pretty weak, but you add +300 damage to every hit and it's well worth it for the limited use I make of melee weapons now.
I don't recommend this for Enhance people because the 20% chance to proc Windfury is probably more damage, given how often you roll the dice on that chance; I only melee now when everything's on cooldown, maybe 2-3 swings per fight, so I think Flametongue works better for me.
I don't recommend this for Enhance people because the 20% chance to proc Windfury is probably more damage, given how often you roll the dice on that chance; I only melee now when everything's on cooldown, maybe 2-3 swings per fight, so I think Flametongue works better for me.
Elemental you should be using flametongue as it scales with spell damage like you said. Enhancement uses Windfury because it scales with Attack Power which makes it better than flametongue in Enhancement case.
DP
Edited, Aug 15th 2007 7:38:56pm by Sercease
Edited, Aug 15th 2007 7:38:56pm by Sercease
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does frost scale w/ +spell dmg gear?
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well if that true an enhancement shaman with duel wield and plus +40 spell damage on each will prob work well with flametongue
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does frost scale w/ +spell dmg gear?
No only flame does.
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well if that true an enhancement shaman with duel wield and plus +40 spell damage on each will prob work well with flametongue
No, Your not going to get spell damage as enhancement as there are to many other stats we need. And WF is going to outperform flametongue a million to one. The fact that it scales with AP will boost it's power even more than what the tool-tip says. You will get more dps as enhancement with WF/WF over any other combination you can create.
Edited, Aug 16th 2007 8:24:38am by Sercease
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well i haven't got wf yet on my shaman so wouldn't know but having about 100 fire damage added to each swing seems pretty good to me
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Tangentially related to the OP's post, I would note here that I have recently switched from Windfury to Flametongue because I've begun to accumulate a lot of spell damage bonuses at higher level (as an Elemental Shammie, now 68). By itself even the higher ranks of this spell are pretty weak, but you add +300 damage to every hit and it's well worth it for the limited use I make of melee weapons now.
Better yet use Wizard Oil. SpellPower FTW.
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well if that true an enhancement shaman with duel wield and plus +40 spell damage on each will prob work well with flametongue
Yes it would work but No it is not a good idea, you will get far more DPS out of Windfury, no question, no doubt. And for enchants use Mongoose, Fiery or Crusader (in that order) for Dual Wield or Savagery on a 2 Hander.
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well i haven't got wf yet on my shaman so wouldn't know but having about 100 fire damage added to each swing seems pretty good to me
If you haven't got WF you haven't got dual wield, WF is at 30, DW at least 40. If you don't have WF yet use Rockbiter.
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Better yet use Wizard Oil. SpellPower FTW.
Yep, LOL, that too! When I have it, I'm usually using Wizard Oil, not Flametongue. Just loooove seeing those big LB crits! It's kind of expensive stuff on my server and I'm saving up for my flying mount right now, so I don't go splurging on it too much (and can't make it myself).
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