Looking for solid enhance adviceFollow

I didn't even look, that was purely based off the way you talk about encounters. If you pull aggro on pretty much _anything_ in a 25-man and you're not in at least plate, you're going to be pasted on the floor. I get curbstomped a fair amount of the time on my Warrior when I pull aggro in 25-mans, even when I can get into Defensive Stance (-10% Damage) and put a Shield on, and I'm in full Plate - no mail or leather. I also have quite a bit of a stamina boost over the other melee DPS classes, save a Feral Druid (~11.5k unbuffed in DPS gear). A Rogue or a Shaman, even a Shaman in full Mail, is going to die. The secret is not pulling aggro in the first place through good use of Omen/KTM and a working knowledge or your tank's threat limits.

Now that you've mentioned it, though, just who _is_ your most progressed Shaman (or, for that matter, character)? Because WoWReader should record pretty much every character you play, and you updated it just a few weeks ago... and he's your only 70 listed. *shrug*



Don't suppose you get Salvation much? Because if you pull aggro consistently in 25-mans even with Salvation, your tank(s) suck. Gruul is kind of iffy but if the OT is competent (and your hunters are on the ball) he should be well ahead of the other melee DPS in threat, and there should be _no_ way to pull aggro on Maulgar or Magtheridon past the first mob since the other tanks will have a huge threat lead.

Hydross can be iffy depending upon your strategy (but Totem Twisting in a Tranquil Air works wonders!), Lurker is cake, Leotheras is cake, Karathress is like Maulgar, and Morogrim should be fine unless you don't get Waterfall'd once the entire fight. Similarly, Void Reaver is probably going to kill you but it's not that big of a deal (Shaman Vanish = Ankh), Al'ar is cake, Solarian doesn't have an aggro structure.

So where exactly are the aggro problems? Oh, right... in Karazhan, probably sans-Salvation.

EDIT: Hey, I never said I wasn't a pretentious git. That doesn't stop me from being right.

wow haha, default already.

Oh My God.
Suddenly all your posts seem absoultely pointless, as it has become very clear that you have never set foot in a raid.
1. Warlocks generate more TPS than any class in the game, flat out fact.
2. The fact that they are at range has absolutely nothing to do with how their threat is calculated.
3. I believe what you are trying to say is that ranged dps pulls aggro at 130% instead of 110% like melee. Unfortunately, you dont realize how much worse it is for a range to pull aggro than a melee.
4. What purpose does versatility serve in a raid? None. There are classes that can OT better than you in a tight spot. There are classes that can heal better than you in a tight spot. And from the way your describing your playstyle, there are classes that can out dps you while sleeping. Your "versatile" style is the reason you feel the need to even be versatile, you are gimping whatever group you are with by not doing the best you can, hence, there is a need for a 11th player that you are trying to fill.
Now I'm not saying to get leather gear and raw dps it, but stop thinking you can dps and heal and tank all in the same fight. If you would max your dps, your group wouldnt need that extra 2k heal from an enh shammy, the mob would be dead.

Responding exclusively to trolls is something of an extension of the strawman fallacy.

To reiterate: Things are different outside of Karazhan. Your advice is valid for 5-mans and even (to some degree) inside Karazhan, but has no relevance to 25-mans. You claimed that your Shaman was not your most progressed character, or even your most progressed Shaman; so who are these other characters? Because given the way you talk about raids it seems pretty damn obvious you haven't seen the inside of Gruul's lair, or not much past the inside.

Hey man, I think your /dodge button is stuck...