Ive been wondering, it sats "increase healing received by 25% of your total spirit for all partymembers within 45 yards"
That means: ALL sorts of healing from ANY class being "empowered"?
Meaning the druid (say, 400 spirit) will give kind of an aura/buff too all partymembers, kindda giving them +100 healing received?
What will happen if 2 druids in ToL-form was in a party? double increase? (sounds too overpowered to me), my guess is that the druid with the highest spirit will rule over the other, right? :)
Does it affect stuff like Improved Leader of the Pack? Frenzied Regeneration? stuff like that..
*worried druid wich has too many DPS-specced chars and no healing-ones*
EDIT: Feel free to write some extra usefull stuff about Tree of Life-form, the pros and cons, so to speak :)
Edited, Aug 10th 2007 8:10pm by NecareXX
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As far as I know, only the best aura of the two will be applied to a party. That's how Pally auras work so I'd guess it'd be the same. May be wrong though cause I never really thought about it.
Addendum: Wowwiki says: "The Tree of Life aura currently stacks with multiple druids in Tree of Life form in a single party." So unless it was fixed it should stack.
It's not too strange, I guess. Like you said, with 400 Spirit, it's +100 Heal. It's good, but it's not stellar. When healers get around 1600-1800 +Heal it's not as significant. (Although always a nice bonus, much like the Shammy's totem that works similarly)
It shouldn't affect LotP and the like because those abilities are not affected by +Heal from gear so I don't why the aura would change that. Never tested it, just a guess.
The way I see the form, it amplifies HoT's power mostly and throw in the aura to match with other Feral forms. Seems like it our thing. I bet in the next Xpac we'll be getting an aura for our Aquatic, Travel and Flight forms too. >_>
Addendum: Wowwiki says: "The Tree of Life aura currently stacks with multiple druids in Tree of Life form in a single party." So unless it was fixed it should stack.
It's not too strange, I guess. Like you said, with 400 Spirit, it's +100 Heal. It's good, but it's not stellar. When healers get around 1600-1800 +Heal it's not as significant. (Although always a nice bonus, much like the Shammy's totem that works similarly)
It shouldn't affect LotP and the like because those abilities are not affected by +Heal from gear so I don't why the aura would change that. Never tested it, just a guess.
The way I see the form, it amplifies HoT's power mostly and throw in the aura to match with other Feral forms. Seems like it our thing. I bet in the next Xpac we'll be getting an aura for our Aquatic, Travel and Flight forms too. >_>
Thanks for the info ^^
any guesses on the auras in travel,aquatic and flight form? Maybe 10% speed increase in travelform? hehe ^^
any guesses on the auras in travel,aquatic and flight form? Maybe 10% speed increase in travelform? hehe ^^
I'm a bit late to this party, but a very proud tree.
ToL form works *astoundingly* well when paired with Vampiric Embrace. I have scrolling combat text, so I saw when I swapped in and out of treeform.
Caster form, VE did 90 tic
treeform, VE did 101-102/tic
Put me in the party with both tanks, and you'll see a difference.
I can also cast Innervate in treeform. Innervate has some sort of spirit based modifier, though I don't claim to understand what it is? I do know I am always the Main healer Innervate, when I'm not a main healer myself.
I don't have 400 spirit in my ToL gear, I have close to 500. I also have the Masquerade gown, which procs all-the-time (+145 spi), and a spirit trinket. The highest I've seen is 702, which is +175 healing to everyone in my party. Not too bad at all.
I'm also a valuable asset because my HoT's are very low cost. I'm both an excellent filler tank healer (everyone not the tank gets a lifebloom and a rejuv), and main tank healer, who gets the full Lifebloom stack, and a constant rejuv.
The only trick is, in HoT healing I have to get ahead of the damage taken curve and stay there. Over-healing is common, but I'm still working on this.
ToL form works *astoundingly* well when paired with Vampiric Embrace. I have scrolling combat text, so I saw when I swapped in and out of treeform.
Caster form, VE did 90 tic
treeform, VE did 101-102/tic
Put me in the party with both tanks, and you'll see a difference.
I can also cast Innervate in treeform. Innervate has some sort of spirit based modifier, though I don't claim to understand what it is? I do know I am always the Main healer Innervate, when I'm not a main healer myself.
I don't have 400 spirit in my ToL gear, I have close to 500. I also have the Masquerade gown, which procs all-the-time (+145 spi), and a spirit trinket. The highest I've seen is 702, which is +175 healing to everyone in my party. Not too bad at all.
I'm also a valuable asset because my HoT's are very low cost. I'm both an excellent filler tank healer (everyone not the tank gets a lifebloom and a rejuv), and main tank healer, who gets the full Lifebloom stack, and a constant rejuv.
The only trick is, in HoT healing I have to get ahead of the damage taken curve and stay there. Over-healing is common, but I'm still working on this.
If you look at the Innervate tooltip, it makes it pretty clear; it takes your base out-of-combat mana regen (scroll over your Spirit stat to find it) and allows 100% of it while casting, but boosts it to a whopping 400% after the 5-second rule. It's similar to a Mage's Evocation.
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If you look at the Innervate tooltip, it makes it pretty clear; it takes your base out-of-combat mana regen (scroll over your Spirit stat to find it) and allows 100% of it while casting, but boosts it to a whopping 400% after the 5-second rule.
I guess I'm just dense. I understand how my Innervate affects me when I cast it on myself, but how does my spirit (or mp/5?) affect my Innervate, when I cast it on someone else? Maybe it doesn't and they just feel better? From the tool-tip, they get a flat 100% of their mp/5 while casting, the druid's spirit makes no difference.
We're not usually in situations where I can go look at the paper doll while Innervate is running, and compare one cast in ToL form and one not. Maybe there's no difference, but I thought I'd heard there was.
Feral all the way so I may get this wrong, but the way I read it seems like you are over-complicating things.
Inervate = your mp/5 boosted to 400%
More spirit = a higher mp5
So the more spi you have means it's just that much more mp/5 to be multiplied when you cast Innervate.
Inervate = your mp/5 boosted to 400%
More spirit = a higher mp5
So the more spi you have means it's just that much more mp/5 to be multiplied when you cast Innervate.
I don't believe the casting Druid's Spirit stat will affect the target of the spell.
That's why it's always wasted on my Pally and I keep telling people they should use it on whoever else but me. :P
As Norellicus stated, you get the full mana regen you would have out of casting, boosts it by 400%, and it is allowed to go on even while you're casting.
The only thing I have not entirely sure of, as I never checked the paper dolls with that spell running either, is if the tooltip means the same effect as Bear form. 400% *more* armor from items essentially means 100% + 400%, so I would think Innervate works the same, granting you 500% mana regen.
Just some thoughts.
That's why it's always wasted on my Pally and I keep telling people they should use it on whoever else but me. :P
As Norellicus stated, you get the full mana regen you would have out of casting, boosts it by 400%, and it is allowed to go on even while you're casting.
The only thing I have not entirely sure of, as I never checked the paper dolls with that spell running either, is if the tooltip means the same effect as Bear form. 400% *more* armor from items essentially means 100% + 400%, so I would think Innervate works the same, granting you 500% mana regen.
Just some thoughts.
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I don't believe the casting Druid's Spirit stat will affect the target of the spell.
That's why it's always wasted on my Pally and I keep telling people they should use it on whoever else but me. :P
That's why it's always wasted on my Pally and I keep telling people they should use it on whoever else but me. :P
I'm confused...are you saying that it's not effective/efficient to Innervate a Pally? : / If I'm dps'ing and the main healer is a pally who looks to be eating through their mana, I'd innervate 'em every time. No?
Chances are a Pally won't run OoM during a normal run. If that happens though, then you will probably use your Innervate on him regardless because without heals you're all dead. :P
But yeah, Pallies don't use Spirit. We have no talent to give us 15% mana regen while casting. So unless one wears cloth or leather or whatever, you won't find a Pally decked out with Spirit.
In a raid environment, if you have to choose, Innervate the Priest healer, not the Pally. Or even a Mage so he can crank more DPS and kill the target faster.
But yeah, Pallies don't use Spirit. We have no talent to give us 15% mana regen while casting. So unless one wears cloth or leather or whatever, you won't find a Pally decked out with Spirit.
In a raid environment, if you have to choose, Innervate the Priest healer, not the Pally. Or even a Mage so he can crank more DPS and kill the target faster.
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