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Ok, I'm pretty sure that they are going to be giving Demonology a new pet. What do you think that pet might be/do?

Also, what do you think affliction/destruction are going to get?

who cares, just be patient ;)

its gonna be a few months or more for this expansion, demonology already has an extra pet and they really don't need anymore. if you really need the heals then i suggest rerolling. just wait i am sure they will tell us what we get when wotlk comes out

So nobody has any serious input on this subject? If you don't think Demonology is going to get another pet, what do you think it will get?

Exactly, we're going to be seeing some very cool new abilities. As for what the point of the Felguard would be, it would still serve as a more offensive tank-like pet. It's not like they would make the new one just a more powerful version of the Felguard. The new pet would have a different kind of role. Like the VW is to tank, the imp grants the party a buff, felhunter is an anti-caster pet, etc..

But if you don't think that Demonology is going to get a new pet, then what are your ideas on what else they might get?

Affliction: WTB AoE Death Coil + Channeled Fear.

Destruction: WTB Imp. Incinerate.

Demonology: WTB Reason to go past Soul Link.

I think a possible new talent for affliction would be something that reduces the cast time of UA and maybe makes it instant.

Demonology would probably get some type of pet healing, whether its like a hunter's channel heal, or a shadow priests vampiric embrace.

Destruction might get a new AoE and a new type of shadowburn, maybe.

anyway, i just want instant UA.. /drool

Wow, an AoE Deathcoil would be crazy. Definitely another good way to keep the Affliction warlock alive and deadly.

As for what Demonology could get, how crazy would it be to have a talent that allows you to have two pets out at once? In order to make it fair maybe they would be reduced to 50% effectiveness each? But that would be fun.

Of course they're going to add more talents, but then again if they wouldn't be as good as just boosting your current mixed talents then that would still be awesome. By the way, a Demonology/Ruin spec would be much much more effective with the big boost in damage you get.

Demonology buffs + 100% more damage from Crits = Crits that rip holes in the fabric of the universe. You can do this now, but with the 10 more talent points you would also be able to have the Felguard, Improved Corruption, Demonic Resilience, and maybe 1 to pyroclasm or something. (If you just add the 10 to this build)

Edited, Aug 9th 2007 6:05pm by SpecimenBear

One new talent i'd like to see deep in the affliction tree would be the ability to life tap to other people. Put it on a large cool-down, after it's used it nerfs your life tap and heals for a while.
Something like "Drains all available mana and 90% of your total health. All the mana drained goes to a targeted group member. For 1 min after use all healing and mana restoration effects reduced by 75%"

Not a talent for soloing or stuff, but there would be plenty of times during long raid fights it could come in handy. Sacrifice your self to get the healer back in the game.

As for demonology why not make it where you can infuse yourself with a demon for 5 min. Not sure what it would give you but seeing how you are a master of demons why not become one. Kinda like a semi-controlled possession. Gives you special abilities and a cool look for 5 min but you can't have another demon summoned. Plus the demon possessing you is trying to gain control so it would add a little variety. Maybe it would cast a random spell every once in a while on your target or on someone in your group, or even on you. So your doing all this extra damage, kicking ***, and then the demon possessing you decides to death-coil you.


Just some ideas I think might be cool.

Seems like an ok idea, but theres one major setback. Warlocks would just be used for that spell and that spell only.

Here's my 3 ideas for the last 3 spells in the 3 talent trees.

Affliction:

Light Imp: Summons a Light Imp under the command of the Warlock.

The spells it can use would be:
Intensify: Increases the spell damage, healing and attack power of the Warlock's group by X. Also increases the efect of the group's Damage over time spells by 10%. Instant cast. (this lasts forever, like Blood Pact)
Demonic Heal: Heals the targeted friendly player by X. 3 second cooldown. 1.5 second cast.
Phase Shift: (samething as phase shift now)
Demon Speed: Increases the Warlock's group spell and Melee haste rating by 20% for 1 minute. 3 minute cooldown.


Demonology:

Demonic Form: Transforms the Warlock into that of a Demon.

You may not have a demon out while in this form. All damage is increased by 50%. Health is increased by 10%. Mana is increased by 10%. All physical damage taken is reduced by 20%. Walk speed increased by 3%. All resistances are added by half of your level.


Destruction:
(There are 2 effects for this spell, just like Mana Tap and Arcane Torrent)

Punish: Deals X damage to the enemy target. Target's health must be 50% or lower. Grants the Warlock 1 Relinquish charge. This effect stacks up to 3 times.Instant cast. 10 second cooldown.

Relinquish: Deals X damage to all enemies in a 20 yard radius per charge. Also increases all enemies that have taken damage by relinquish to have their time between attacks increased by 10%% and their casting time increased by 10% per charge. This effect does not stack with other slow effects(such as Slow, CoTongues, etc.) 1 second cast. Can be improved to be Instant cast.





Well those are my 3 ideas. The Demonic Form might be a little high, but remember, its a subsitute for your demon. This means no Felguard, Imp, Succubus, etc. can be summoned.

This also means that Soul Link, Master Demonologist, or Demonic Knowledge can be used while you are in this form.


They all seem pretty equal in terms of PvP. Raiding, it depends on how much mana Punish and Relinquish Cost. But in terms of support, Affliction is definately the better tree.




Edited, Aug 10th 2007 2:28am by BronxSavior

Edited, Aug 10th 2007 2:29am by BronxSavior

I think its pretty clear Blizzard said we will get new level caps and talents that would match that. So 10 new levels = 10 talents plus.

I am not speculating about whatever new over that might come, I find it worthless too, but discussing about what kind of new builds we may get with 10 talents more doesnt seem like speculating to me.
I am refering to those talents we already have of course, not about inventing new ones.

As far as I am concerned they can wait with that new expansion for few more years. Lost Eden destroyed AO for me completely, I could stomach Shadowlands but next one ruined everything I used to love about the game. Not to mention endless and very annoying bugs that came with it.
I just hope it will not happen with WoW too, I am in serious consideration of looking for new game anyway.

I thought it was settled that we were getting Ony for our lvl 80 pet, rawr-pew-pew.

Edited, Aug 10th 2007 9:43am by Zaknalfein