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Difinitive list on what a Spellstone CAN and CANNOT dispel?Follow

#1 Aug 08 2007 at 5:00 AM Rating: Decent
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Spellstone

Use: Removes all harmful magic effects from the caster.
Equip: Increases your spell critical strike rating by XX (Depends on rank).

Steeliosis started a thread on the usefulness of Spellstones in Arena, and brought a question to my mind about them....what do they dispel?

I understand that your answer may be "Harmful magic effects duh" but lets actually put it down on paper (Virtual paper) some of the well known (and despised) CC's/Debuffs that this stone can dispel in the BG's/Arena, so we can honestly weigh the choice to be made: Spellstone or Wand (Stats)?
#2 Aug 08 2007 at 5:38 AM Rating: Good
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Not sure if i am allowed to link to other sites, so forigve me.

thottbot on major spellstone, has a list for all effected spells and a list of dispel spells that equally have the dispel effect as the stone.
#3 Aug 08 2007 at 5:56 AM Rating: Decent
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TinyTin wrote:
Not sure if i am allowed to link to other sites, so forigve me.

thottbot on major spellstone, has a list for all effected spells and a list of dispel spells that equally have the dispel effect as the stone.

Good stuff.

Thanks for the links
#4 Aug 08 2007 at 6:12 AM Rating: Good
yea thanks for the links as well.. its a good thing to know


Edited, Aug 8th 2007 10:13am by steeliosis

Edited, Aug 8th 2007 10:14am by steeliosis
#5 Aug 08 2007 at 6:50 AM Rating: Decent
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No problem, took me longer to make the post then to find the info. :-)
#6 Aug 08 2007 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
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it can remove ALL magical effects that do make you loose control of your character (fear, charm, sheep etc...)
#7 Aug 08 2007 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
Let's say you have like CoA, Corruption, Shadow embrace, Siphone life time 3 from BGs, and like All the healer Debuffs and ur running around feared will this dispell ALL of it? Thanks guys.
#8 Aug 08 2007 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
it says "removes all harmful magic effects" so i would assume that yes, it would remove all of them.
#9 Aug 08 2007 at 11:19 AM Rating: Good
TBH I can't remember if it just removes one or if it clears all that it can remove. Someone may have to experiment and report for us here.
#10 Aug 08 2007 at 12:55 PM Rating: Decent
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Removes all magic effects, but not fear and stuff like that (loss of control of your character). But when 2 shadow priests fully dot you up, yes a spellstone removes ALL the dots.

Its like a mini cloak of shadows. Just dont use it when you have UA on yourself ;)
#11 Aug 08 2007 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
it doesn't say "dispells" it says "removes" so i think it would be ok to use even if you have UA on yourself because it's the "dispell" that causes UA to go off.

please correct me if i'm wrong :P
#12 Aug 08 2007 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Trust me, it hurts :P
#13 Aug 08 2007 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
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I haven't tried it on UA, but I'm thinking that to remove a harmful spell is to dispel it.
#14 Aug 08 2007 at 4:13 PM Rating: Decent
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CoA is a CURSE. it's not magical so it won't be removed.
#15 Aug 08 2007 at 4:19 PM Rating: Decent
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And what is a curse? (It's magic, dark magic.)
#16 Aug 08 2007 at 4:43 PM Rating: Decent
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.... that's just a stupid thing to say. put it on someone. hover over it and it says "curse" not "magic" so it won't be removed by spellstone

I'm happy to bet my wow account on this so i wouldn't reconmend arguing against it. it's not theory, it's fact.

POST EDIT

if you have nether protection and your fighting a lock with UA. if you get a NP proc, use your spellstone then to remove the UA safely :).
also if you're an engineer. the shadow reflector will reflect the UA silence and dispel damage so it's worth while doing that.

(it's amusing when a priest with engineering mass dispells 3+ UA's in pvp. basically insta gibs the lock :D lol)

Edited, Aug 8th 2007 8:47pm by Jenovaomega
#17 Aug 08 2007 at 11:11 PM Rating: Decent
It aggrivates the **** out of me that it doesn't remove sheep (It goes grey, so you can't even try it) and I've never tested it w/ UA, so I'm glad that info came up in here.
#18 Aug 09 2007 at 12:10 AM Rating: Default
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Ok, so it a spellstone doesn't remove CoA.. a curse is still a form of magic is it not? For the sake of me not being completely embarrassed?
#19 Aug 09 2007 at 12:39 AM Rating: Decent
In so far as you need MP to cast it and silence prevents you from using them, yes. Sure, it's magic. Is it considered "magic" as a debuff, though? No. The debuff types are physical, poison, magic, curse, and disease if I recall correctly.
#20 Aug 09 2007 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
i feel it should work on more stuff... especially like sheep or cyclone which i thought fell into the catgegory of magic effects. the spellstone is useless as it is. might as well make it worth the while of actually using it.
#21 Aug 09 2007 at 6:52 AM Rating: Decent
It's far from useless. As far as Magic Effects go, it's wonderful for clearing DoTs, counterspell (presumably), and all those shadow priest debuffs. Well worth having in an arena.
#22 Aug 09 2007 at 11:59 AM Rating: Good
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Run with a felhunter to remove sheep + fear.


#showtooltip Devour Magic
/cast [target=self] Devour Magic;


Hotkey that somewhere. Use felhunter when you're CC'd, spellstone when you're dotted up. I think it even removes concussive shot lol (the spellstone). IMO the potential life saved from removing a full load of dots, more then makes up for the minor stam + spell damage lost from a wand. I always use a spellstone when I pvp.

Edited, Aug 9th 2007 4:00pm by mikelolol
#23 Aug 09 2007 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Oh god! I never thought of making a macro for that, it's pure genius! Haha, I'm sure it's no secret.. I can't believe I haven't done it yet. Thanks a million! Here take this *gives everyone in the World (of Warcraft) 100 gold.*
#24 Aug 09 2007 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
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Man.. I haven't tried it yet, but Felhunter really removes Fear and Sheep? What else does it remove? Hunter traps, cyclone, stun? You say use the Felhunter to remove CC but can we have a definitive list on what it can and cannot remove?
#25 Aug 09 2007 at 1:13 PM Rating: Decent
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It can remove any magic effect, like a priest's dispell magic. A priest can dispell fear off you, but you cant spellstone if off yourself, since you have no control over yourself when feared. See what I mean? The felhunter is not the one who's feared, so he acts like a mini priest with dispell magic. I believe a priest's removes 2 magic effects at once, but I might be wrong there. Also a priest has no cooldown on dispell magic, where a felhunter can remove 1 thing every 8 seconds.


Its a random removal, so it might not always work. Say a lock has UA, siphon life, corruption and fear on you - all magic effects. The felhunter will randomly try to remove 1 - it might be fear, but it might be siphon life. It might be corruption, it might be UA.

Mages dont have nearly so many magic debuffs, so your almost guaranteed to remove sheep with the felhunter.

Edited, Aug 9th 2007 5:16pm by mikelolol
#26 Aug 09 2007 at 1:17 PM Rating: Decent
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the felpup can remove all magical effects, it also (currently) removes UA without taking damage from it.

ya loki. spellstone doesn't remove any effects that render you incapable of controling your character. that's what the felpup is for.

curses arn't considered magic, done a dictionary.com on them and:

1. the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
2. a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
3. the act of reciting such a formula.
4. a profane oath; curse word.
5. an evil that has been invoked upon one.
6. the cause of evil, misfortune, or trouble.
7. something accursed.
8. Slang. the menstrual period; menstruation (usually prec. by the).
9. an ecclesiastical censure or anathema.
–verb (used with object)
10. to wish or invoke evil, calamity, injury, or destruction upon.
11. to swear at.
12. to blaspheme.
13. to afflict with great evil.
14. to excommunicate.
–verb (used without object)
15. to utter curses; swear profanely

and for magic (most the rest were to do with show magic so i removed them):
the art of producing a desired effect or result through the use of incantation or various other techniques that presumably assure human control of supernatural agencies or the forces of nature

not quite sure what the difference is... but blizzard made there one so stop complaining :P

on terms of what the pup can remove, as said anything magical.

now here's a short list of some things you might not have known are magical

concussive shot
silence shot
freezing trap
frost aura trap (pointless removing though as you're still in it and get it again)
hunters mark
pally stun
deathcoil
vampuric embrace (this used to be a curse, now it's magical)

i presume you know all the rest that are magical. oh cyclone can't be removed. nor can banish or anything that rendors you or the target invunrable. (blessing of protection can as it only saves pallies / the target from phsyical attacks)

also all our pets abilities (except the imps and the felguards stun and cleave) are considered shadow magic damage, so shadow resist works against them and they can proc nether protection. also nether prot can't be removed by devour magic
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