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i still havent decided on a good pvp specc cause i cant seem to find a straight answer. i know holy will be best. right now im 22 and i like to pvp and im specc prot right now and was woundering is prot good for pvp? i like it because i can survive better then anyone but what do u guys think the best specc is? or can u just give me some tips anything would be nice. thx
prot is the best all around
holy is the best in groups
ret is the best vs casters
holy is the best in groups
ret is the best vs casters
Sounds about right.
Being Prot won't let you heal as well, but Melees should leave you alone mostly. Casters will still destroy you.
Holy offers the best healing tools, and truthfully you're not that much squishier than Prot.
Retro is for damage mostly and you will probably burn your mana so fast you won't have much left for healing.
I personally don't think Prot is worth it though. In PvE you become a titan but there are too many spells flying around in PvP and you become just as much of a prey as a Holy Pally, minus the goodies. That's just my opinion though.
Being Prot won't let you heal as well, but Melees should leave you alone mostly. Casters will still destroy you.
Holy offers the best healing tools, and truthfully you're not that much squishier than Prot.
Retro is for damage mostly and you will probably burn your mana so fast you won't have much left for healing.
I personally don't think Prot is worth it though. In PvE you become a titan but there are too many spells flying around in PvP and you become just as much of a prey as a Holy Pally, minus the goodies. That's just my opinion though.
Lvl 22 you should be ret.
Don't get me wrong but prot before lvl 35 is bunk. Reckoning changes that, so does holy shield and 1h specialization.'
At your level Ret is great, unfortunately it doesn't scale to the end game.
Don't get me wrong but prot before lvl 35 is bunk. Reckoning changes that, so does holy shield and 1h specialization.'
At your level Ret is great, unfortunately it doesn't scale to the end game.
Bode - 100 Holy Paladin - Lightbringer
Having leveled a primarily protection pally to 70, I would say vs. melee you last forever, but get eaten alive against anything that can cast a half decent spell (even with your auras) unless you focus heavily on spell resist gear.
At your level, I would agree that ret is the best way to go because one of the nicer abilities in that tree is available with only 11 talent points. With the spec I've linked, it should give you some nice damage and keep your mana consumption as efficient as possiable. Use a 2H weapon.
If you like protection, that tree doesn't get one of it's real defining abilities until level 30 (earliest maxed at 34), which is reckoning. The second is Holy Shield at 40.
It's more or less up to you what you want to do, but speaking from experience, I really do wish I start in ret as a pally and respec to protection later, because both leveling and being able to defend myself from stray allies (in my case) would have been a little easier.
At your level, I would agree that ret is the best way to go because one of the nicer abilities in that tree is available with only 11 talent points. With the spec I've linked, it should give you some nice damage and keep your mana consumption as efficient as possiable. Use a 2H weapon.
If you like protection, that tree doesn't get one of it's real defining abilities until level 30 (earliest maxed at 34), which is reckoning. The second is Holy Shield at 40.
It's more or less up to you what you want to do, but speaking from experience, I really do wish I start in ret as a pally and respec to protection later, because both leveling and being able to defend myself from stray allies (in my case) would have been a little easier.
tyvm for all the replies... still looking for other thoughts. they are always welcomed
Protection is an absolute monster in one-on-one PvP. It doesn't deal with casters as well as Ret, but I did all my leveling as Prot, and from 35 on I feared nothing in World PvP as I quested up.
However, in group PvP, Protection is pretty worthless. You can't heal as well as a Holy spec, and you can't do damage as well as a Retribution spec because you really need to be "tanking" your opponent to do any kind of significant damage. Once the opposing group figures out you're Protection the melees will ignore you almost entirely and just wait for their casters to destroy you.
You might be able to get away with this in BG's if you go ahead and heal anyways, but it won't fly in the arena at all.
However, in group PvP, Protection is pretty worthless. You can't heal as well as a Holy spec, and you can't do damage as well as a Retribution spec because you really need to be "tanking" your opponent to do any kind of significant damage. Once the opposing group figures out you're Protection the melees will ignore you almost entirely and just wait for their casters to destroy you.
You might be able to get away with this in BG's if you go ahead and heal anyways, but it won't fly in the arena at all.
one thing i'm wondering, maybe G can answer: in arena, would it be better to be prot/holy and be able to take a big beating but heal decent OR holy/prot and be able to heal remarkably but be more squishie?
i have faced all the types of pallies 1v1. i've always destroyed other ret's. holy's usually FoL themselves til i'm oom. prot's usually take a million hits and can sorta hit back.
i have no comparison on my mage since i cant usually tell holy from prot, either way they go down in a few shots.
i have faced all the types of pallies 1v1. i've always destroyed other ret's. holy's usually FoL themselves til i'm oom. prot's usually take a million hits and can sorta hit back.
i have no comparison on my mage since i cant usually tell holy from prot, either way they go down in a few shots.
tommyguns wrote:
one thing i'm wondering, maybe G can answer: in arena, would it be better to be prot/holy and be able to take a big beating but heal decent OR holy/prot and be able to heal remarkably but be more squishie?
i have faced all the types of pallies 1v1. i've always destroyed other ret's. holy's usually FoL themselves til i'm oom. prot's usually take a million hits and can sorta hit back.
i have no comparison on my mage since i cant usually tell holy from prot, either way they go down in a few shots.
i have faced all the types of pallies 1v1. i've always destroyed other ret's. holy's usually FoL themselves til i'm oom. prot's usually take a million hits and can sorta hit back.
i have no comparison on my mage since i cant usually tell holy from prot, either way they go down in a few shots.
holy/prot is THE arena build.
KTurner wrote:
tommyguns wrote:
one thing i'm wondering, maybe G can answer: in arena, would it be better to be prot/holy and be able to take a big beating but heal decent OR holy/prot and be able to heal remarkably but be more squishie?
i have faced all the types of pallies 1v1. i've always destroyed other ret's. holy's usually FoL themselves til i'm oom. prot's usually take a million hits and can sorta hit back.
i have no comparison on my mage since i cant usually tell holy from prot, either way they go down in a few shots.
i have faced all the types of pallies 1v1. i've always destroyed other ret's. holy's usually FoL themselves til i'm oom. prot's usually take a million hits and can sorta hit back.
i have no comparison on my mage since i cant usually tell holy from prot, either way they go down in a few shots.
holy/prot is THE arena build.
There you have it, tommy.
Most of Protection's damage mitigation is in the first 20 points of the tree, sans Ardent Defender. Everything after that is more aimed at tanking "tools", threat generation, and even a little damage.
41/20/0 is the optimal arena healing build because you have all the talents out of the Holy tree that make you a phenominal healer, and almost all of the talents out of Protection that make you ridiculously hard to kill, whereas the reverse is not true. 20/41/0 above 35% life is really not all that much harder to kill than 41/20/0 and it doesn't even come close to comparing in healing.
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You might be able to get away with this in BG's if you go ahead and heal anyways, but it won't fly in the arena at all.
It does extremely well in BGs. Caveat is you need a good healing gearset. But it allows you to level relatively decent speed without having to respec every time you're doing PvPing.
-Therenor
Gildaren wrote:
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You might be able to get away with this in BG's if you go ahead and heal anyways, but it won't fly in the arena at all.
It does extremely well in BGs. Caveat is you need a good healing gearset. But it allows you to level relatively decent speed without having to respec every time you're doing PvPing.
-Therenor
I fully second that. You're usually involved in small skirmishes of 3 to 6 persons, your healing will make a difference even with prot spec. Against a well-oiled preset you'd be gimped, but PUG v. PUG? Nah. You'll have to try and DPS in order to be worse than 3rd top healer at the end of the game.
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