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#1 Aug 06 2007 at 9:47 AM Rating: Good
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I started WoW back in May after playing EQ for several years. My druid is level 56 feral spec.

I've been reading about how much fun people are having with Moonkin and I thought about giving it a try.

Can anyone tell me how much it will cost to spec and respec if I don't like it? Also, how long should I try it out before deciding -- a night, a level or two, etc.?

I'm fairly happy with my feral spec because I can do decent DPS in cat form and when needed I've been able to pop out and tank.

One reason I was thinking of trying it out is because the few times I've dueled and did a BG, I didn't really like running around trying to get in melee range to attack. I thought ranged DPS might be a better option for me, although I guess you have line of sight issues to deal with then.
#2 Aug 06 2007 at 10:01 AM Rating: Good
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First respec is 1 gold. I don't remember the rate progression but after many a respec you can look at something like 50g per respec. Also I remember after respec back to original spec you will have to relearn talents from the trainers but at a much reduced price.

Keep in mind you need to re equip yourself completely.

Keep in mind that if you don't have a mage friend giving you waters before a quest grind session you will be buying a lot of waters from vendors.

Try it, it will be fun, at least for a while.

Mattimer
#3 Aug 06 2007 at 10:18 AM Rating: Good
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Also I remember after respec back to original spec you will have to relearn talents from the trainers but at a much reduced price.

Just to avoid confusion:

Some talents offer a new abilities for a single talent point. Some of them can be upgraded at the trainer as you level up, like other new ranks. If you respec and pick them again, they will start at rank 1 and you'll have to upgrade them again.

But don't worry about that, they're always about one tenth of the price of other trainable abilties.

(So yeah, you don't have to relearn all skills, just talented skills)

Edited, Aug 6th 2007 1:24pm by Selverein
#4 Aug 06 2007 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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Mattimer wrote:
First respec is 1 gold. I don't remember the rate progression


1g, then 5, then 10. I believe it continues to go up by 5 after that, up to a max of 50.
#5 Aug 06 2007 at 11:29 AM Rating: Good
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Mattimer wrote:
1g, then 5, then 10. I believe it continues to go up by 5 after that, up to a max of 50.


More of a question than statement of fact here:
A guy at work, who is a long-time WoW junkie with multiple high-level toons, said that the cost to respec degrades over time. That is, if you respec once, twice, three times in short order the cost per respec goes up as described: 1g, 5g, 10g, whatever, he wasn't sure of the cost escalation either...up to 50g which he did agree with. But then if you stick with that spec for a long time like months, the cost to respec will have come back down.

Anybody know if that's true?
#6 Aug 06 2007 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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Aye, if you don't respec for a month, the price will drop by either 5g or 10g, forgot which.
#7 Aug 06 2007 at 12:56 PM Rating: Good
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Keep in mind that if you don't have a mage friend giving you waters before a quest grind session you will be buying a lot of waters from vendors.


Or, you can just play like a druid, get a second set of gear for feral, and just cat/bear form while your mana regenerates. As a resto spec, I only have to drink about about 3-5 mobs, depending on what kind they are and the other usual factors. And if I don't feel like drinking, I change into cat form and just dps like that. In the same gear that I instance heal.

As for the actual question, just make sure you realize that when you first respec you won't be running so hot, because you'll be using a completely different playstyle than feral and you might have to get new gear. And yes, you probably WILL have to pay a LITTLE more on water, but not an obscene amount.

Edited, Aug 6th 2007 5:00pm by MrEnglish
#8 Aug 06 2007 at 10:08 PM Rating: Good
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Reports of Oomkin are vastly overstated. Just use your melee weapon and you don't ever need to drink. Starfire, wrath, wrath, moonfire, insect swarm, swing til dead. Reapply dots to healers.
#9 Aug 07 2007 at 4:30 AM Rating: Decent
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Thanks for the info!

I was almost to the point of respec'ing last night. I stripped off all my feral gear, put it in the bank, and made my way to the druid trainer; however, I couldn't bring myself to hit the button!

I may change my mind once I accumulate or make a few more pieces of gear so I'm not running around half-naked. I don't really want to blow money on the AH as I'm saving up for my lvl 60 mount.
#10 Aug 07 2007 at 6:03 AM Rating: Good
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Small word of advice; decide what you want to be before you hit outland...

Some of the quests there make you choose between really good feral gear,and equally good balance gear.

I missed out on some very good feral gear,since I was balance at the time,and picked the "wrong" gear :D


#11 Aug 07 2007 at 6:30 AM Rating: Good
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Agobi wrote:
Small word of advice; decide what you want to be before you hit outland...

Some of the quests there make you choose between really good feral gear,and equally good balance gear.


Your point is part of the reason I was thinking about trying it now. I've read there are some good quest items in Outlands. Quest rewards, random drops, and crafted items are my current gearup options as I don't want to waste money in the AH on stuff I'll quickly replace.

I guess I should just break down and give Moonkin a try since I'm toying with the idea. Then I'll know for sure if I like it or if feral better suits me.
#12 Aug 07 2007 at 7:02 AM Rating: Decent
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Small word of advice; decide what you want to be before you hit outland...

Some of the quests there make you choose between really good feral gear,and equally good balance gear.


otoh, when you get to Outlands you'll be making money at a much higher rate, so you will be able to buy mats for some really good crafted gear. And then there's arena and bg gear if you're into that.

I tried balance at 50 (I think) and didn't like it; took too long to kill things. I didn't really give it a chance, though, and didn't have gear. The local boomkins would know better, but I think balance comes into its own at higher lvls. I want to give it another shot, after I get epic flight and all the feral gear I have my eye on.
#13 Aug 07 2007 at 9:06 AM Rating: Good
I've been balance the entire trip...(now at lvl 49)

I burn mobs in a very short time, in contrast to some of the other posts.

Also, one or two gear switches in between mobs is all it takes to eliminate downtime from drinking.

Slap on a couple feral pieces...kill two mobs in cat form...swap your balance pieces back on...

You should be full mana, and ready to go again.

Starfire crit is 800...and I moonfire crit for 350...once I get my pet trees, call the cops...cuz I'm going on a killing spree.
#14 Aug 07 2007 at 9:42 AM Rating: Good
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If you quest a lot in Outland, (like doing nearly ALL quests.) You'll be able to pick up great gear for one spec, and still get good gear for other specs.

I am feral spec, from quests alone, I not only have good mele DPS and Tank gear, I have caster gear too. (with some separation between balance and restoration)
#15 Aug 07 2007 at 10:36 AM Rating: Decent
I have a smimilar question to the OP. So far (level42), i am full feral and i really like it. However, as i cant really be bothered to level another character, i thaught i would stay at level49 and get amazing gear (sort of a high-ish level twink - if they exist).

Anyway, i was considering changing spec to balance as moonkins look so much fun. As i will just be pvping, so i wont ever need to tank for example, would it be worth at least trying moonkin for a week or so. I have absolutely no balance equipment as all my gear is feral, and my healing gear is just '+ healing'.

So, ignoring downtime, leveling etc, should i roll balance? It means a complete change in gear but i just think moonkins are awesome. Where do moonkins rate for dps in battleground?

Thanks in advanced.

EDIT: do balance moonkins still use cat and bear form in pvp?

Edited, Aug 7th 2007 2:40pm by henryarmstrong
#16 Aug 07 2007 at 11:12 AM Rating: Good
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As long as you have the money to get Balance gear, yes, it can be worth it if you think it will be fun.

If you don't have the gear, though, you will suck and proclaim it the worst spec, unjustifiably so.

Moonkins can probably top the DPS charts in BG if that's the only thing you're interested in, but you should realize that there are much more important things to worry about. Winning, for example.

You might have to shift out and heal a flag runner if you're the only healer nearby. Refusing to do so to continue DPSing people may net you more short-term satisfaction but in the end you will lose. (Or increase your chances of losing, at least)

But yah, it can dish out the pain just fine.

And yes, Balance Druids may still use their other forms. You can get off a quick stun by turning Bear and then out and your can stealth to places in Cat before shifting out and nuking the **** outta someone. Druids are Druids and should definitely make use of all they got.
#17 Aug 07 2007 at 2:06 PM Rating: Good
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+1 Scholar Selverein
#18 Aug 07 2007 at 2:46 PM Rating: Decent
Just by collecting quest rewards when the feral gear wasn't an upgrade and instance drops when they weren't needed by the group, I now have 1400 +heal gear and 400 +spelldamage gear. This was without collecting any cloth gear. If a piece of cloth gear is good, then definitely take it, but leather is the preference.

No matter what your spec, it is worth collecting off-spec gear. It leaves your options open. Even if it only for a week, I can try out Boomkin or Resto without having to put a big effort in to get the gear.
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