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What Condition Earns a Pet Its Training Points?Follow

#1 Aug 03 2007 at 8:57 PM Rating: Decent
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So yea, title says it all. Right now out EXPing my pet's TP hasn't risen even one point. Is the condition to raise TPs be that the pet be maximum level (equal to my own) when I earn EXP? Or something else?
#2 Aug 03 2007 at 9:11 PM Rating: Decent
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Please read the sticky post at the top of this forum.
#3 Aug 03 2007 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
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So you're telling me this specifically is in there? Even though I've read it?

Or is that just the answer everyone gives when they really know the answer but want to be smug about not giving the answer.

edit: Well, I checked it over and like I thought, this question isn't answered. The OP and the next one or two posts have information and the rest of the Sticky branches off into discussion with no further information given.

So instead of telling me to "read the sticky" as if you just opened my eyes to the wonders of the world, how about you just answer the question. People asking "what's the best pet?" is one thing, I daresay this is different.

Edited, Aug 4th 2007 1:22am by Tavarde

Edited, Aug 4th 2007 1:56am by Tavarde
#4 Aug 03 2007 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
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Training point = Pet level x pet loyalty

So if your pet is level 34, it gains 34 TP once it rises from loyalty level 0 to 1.
It gains loyalty by being well fed (green) and spending time at your side. I seem to remember that it goes a lot faster when you're fighting something.
#5 Aug 03 2007 at 10:12 PM Rating: Decent
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Awesome, thank you, that explains a lot :)
#6 Aug 03 2007 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
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IF YOUR QUESTION IS ABOUT PETS, GO TO THE FIRST POST ON PAGE TWO.


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Pets gain training points every time they level or increase in loyalty. Overall this works out to the same amount in the end no matter how it happens. (The exact formula is level * loyalty-1.) Training points are now reclaimable like talent points, by visiting a pet trainer and having them reset the training points, so there is no difference in the number of training points you get, or whether you take a level 10 cat to 60 instead of getting one at 60.


It was in the sticky.
#7 Aug 03 2007 at 10:44 PM Rating: Default
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Well that certainly stands to correct me. Your attention to detail is enviable.
#8 Aug 03 2007 at 11:17 PM Rating: Decent
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No, just been around the forums long enough to know my way around the sticky. Didn't even have to read through that thoroughly, just searched "training" until I found the math behind training points.
#9 Aug 04 2007 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Tavarde wrote:
Well that certainly stands to correct me. Your attention to detail is enviable.
While your own leaves a lot to be desired. You managed to insult me for sending you to the source of the answer to your question, both missing the information which was there and accusing me of being smug about it. Would you have preferred a 6 paragraph flaming rant, insulting your ancestry, intelligence, and value as a human being? Because I've seen a lot of responses which were exactly like that. You're the one who comes across as being a bit too smug for your own good.
#10 Aug 06 2007 at 5:41 PM Rating: Decent
Kompera wrote:
Tavarde wrote:
Well that certainly stands to correct me. Your attention to detail is enviable.
While your own leaves a lot to be desired. You managed to insult me for sending you to the source of the answer to your question, both missing the information which was there and accusing me of being smug about it. Would you have preferred a 6 paragraph flaming rant, insulting your ancestry, intelligence, and value as a human being? Because I've seen a lot of responses which were exactly like that. You're the one who comes across as being a bit too smug for your own good.

Which is what would have happened if I had seen the responses you got from that. Too bad I didn't see this thread before now. Would probably have earned me another ratecamper.
#11 Aug 06 2007 at 8:26 PM Rating: Good
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Well I am quite sorry, it had been a terrible day and I did indeed make an effort to find the answer before I came here. Of course, neither of those are legitimate excuses but they require mentioning if I am to continue being a member of this forum community.

After all my attempts to be the best first-character Hunter I can be I was just a little peeved at receiving the "check the sticky" reply usually reserved for idiotic noobs asking "what's the best pet?"
#12 Aug 06 2007 at 9:15 PM Rating: Decent
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Tavarde wrote:
I was just a little peeved at receiving the "check the sticky" reply usually reserved for idiotic noobs asking "what's the best pet?"

The "check the sticky" reply is actually reserved for folks who ask a question answered in the sticky. There is no "idiotic noob" requirement for receiving that reply.
#13 Aug 06 2007 at 9:30 PM Rating: Good
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Then I stand to be doubly corrected.
#14 Aug 06 2007 at 10:01 PM Rating: Default
Northhand AI with a Southpaw grip, or w/e your name is, I've seen what an *** you can be in other posts of yours, you have no business being all Righteously Indignant about 'ratecampers'. Trust me, if you're paranoid about your alla-rating then you should look to yourself and your own assenine attitudes before you blame others for any suspected rate-downs you feel you have earned.

Kompera: 'check the sticky' is INDEED an answer commonly underscored with an attitude of 'idiotic noob', don't pretend otherwise. We've been on these forums for several years and we both know that the WoW community forums, in particular, are rife with such adolescent triteness.

My question to you, Kompera, is this: would it have been THAT much more difficult to spend the couple extra seconds and keystrokes to post what Parasight said? Or is your carpal-tunnel flaring up again?
#15 Aug 07 2007 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
KGBchnik wrote:
Northhand AI with a Southpaw grip, or w/e your name is, I've seen what an *** you can be in other posts of yours, you have no business being all Righteously Indignant about 'ratecampers'. Trust me, if you're paranoid about your alla-rating then you should look to yourself and your own assenine attitudes before you blame others for any suspected rate-downs you feel you have earned.

Oh I have little fear of my rating going either way. Was almost kinda proud that day. My own personal ratecamper. Someone actually took the time to create a sock, get it Scholared, and then proceeded to hunt down every post I'd made for the last few weeks. It was one of the few times I've had a genuine laugh when logging on. Reality check. I'm at thousands of posts. Not too easy to get me down. And read my post again. I was lamenting the fact that I missed my shot.

However. If you feel being told to read the sticky automatically means "You're a noob", then you have misunderstood things. Yes, it is very often directed at noobs, but that is merely due to the nature of the noobs themselves. They will in 99% of the cases benefit hugely from reading it. Does that make everyone we tell to read the sticky a moron? Far from it. Most of them, are newbs. Major difference. Players who aren't moronic, yet can still benefit from the sticky.

Pointing people to the sticky where they can read the answer for themselves will set a few standards for the players. They will learn what they wanted to know. They will also learn how to look for such answers. And they will know that most of their questions can be answered just by reading a couple of posts. Typing out the answer to each and every newbie isn't going to end well. Stickies and FAQ's are made for the same reason. So that the trivial matter doesn't get to drown the more serious stuff.

Pointing people to the sticky, is nothing less than a bloody duty for any forum regulars, at any forum you could possibly conceive.
#16 Aug 07 2007 at 4:29 AM Rating: Decent
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KGBchnik wrote:
My question to you, Kompera, is this: would it have been THAT much more difficult to spend the couple extra seconds and keystrokes to post what Parasight said? Or is your carpal-tunnel flaring up again?
Feel free to browse my prior posts and then come back and tell me I'm not helpful to people with questions. And I'll even occasionally answer questions which are in the sticky. But not every time. Also feel free to pick up my slack if you have any real issue with it. That is, if your own tunnel vision allows you to.
#17 Aug 07 2007 at 5:22 AM Rating: Decent
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Something else you have to remember... threads are stickied for a reason. You should at least browse through them before creating a new thread.

Once the updates for the sticky are ready, I'll put my hand in to help make it even easier to navigate, but it's not so hard now.
#18 Aug 07 2007 at 10:30 AM Rating: Good
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Please, guys, don't let this thread de-evolve into a needless flamewar. I asked a question that was answered in the sticky, I was told to go to the sticky, so I went to the sticky. That was that.

We can all be far more productive than mudslinging.
#19 Aug 07 2007 at 3:16 PM Rating: Decent
Ahem, after carefully reading this, I think we owe Tavarde an A P O L O G Y.

Tav asked what causes TPs to go up. He was snottily sent to the sticky, which is HUGE and a pain to read - and look, when it's just as easy to type the answer as it is to send them to the stickie (and we *** um e the answer is there, it often ISN'T) - just be nice and type the answer! PLS!

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Please read the sticky post at the top of this forum.


Eleven words.

TPs go up if pet is fed and if you hunt for exp w/ him. Fifteen words. Four words extra - and we help the OP. See what I mean?

Tbh I'm not sure what makes TPs go up well or quickly, save hunting w/ the pet for exp (or if 70, hunting greens). TPs or loyalty levels do not go up quickly just by having the pet out - this I know from fact.

What is even more embarrassing is the the answer in the stickie is only HALF the answer to the OP's question! Yes, TPs go up when loyalty lvl goes up- but the quoted response doesn't say how to get loyalty of pet to go up!

Maybe it does elsewhere, but my above points still apply - the stickie is huge - and this OP asked a simple to answer question.

Let's go back to being helpful, please. This is from the boar crusade person - so ... maybe I'm a hypocrite - or maybe in this case I don't think this OP deserves the "boar crusade" treatment.

I've rated Tavarde back up. Tav took our s h * t rather well and seems a cool person. I'd like to have him around here posting with us, and not driven off by a few of us who seem to have ... um ... negative attitudes atm.

Let's be "one big happy" again ... okay, maybe we never were. But let's pls try to be "one big happy" - really, it's better. Thanks much! GL!
#20 Aug 07 2007 at 6:01 PM Rating: Decent
Oh I agree. The OP definitely didn't deserve a single ratedown. It was an easy enough question. However, the only answer needed was in fact in the sticky. How Loyalty levels are gained is something no one can answer. Unless you have played a Hunter past level 15. Your pet will gain loyalty if you treat it right. Feed it when hungry. Heal him when needed. And have him fight when needed. These are things all Hunters do, that deserve to be called Hunters.

Of course, Tavarde has proven to be more than worthy of a certain amount of attention. He has proven himself able to speak his mind, to point out what he believes is right... and most important of all. He has shown the sense to admit when he has wronged. However... his second post was one of scorn. One where he insulted one of the posters who have truly proven himself more than knowledgeable of our class. One where he claimed lies, smugness and arrogance. That is where he got on my bad side.

Afterwards, he admitted this. Which put him back on my good side. Iponema. Do not claim to know how those of us with... negative attitudes, judge another poster. If me, or anyone else, do not like him or his attitude, and that is enough to chase him off... Well. Then he is not much worth. As he has rather stood up and asked for peace in this thread, to prevent argument, and has proven himself a decent poster. Well, apparently our... negativity... was not enough. And so, he proved himself to be far better than those who can not take a mild reproach and stand for it.

I'd rather see a person I dislike stay at these boards if they prove themselves good and decent posters, than see people I do like stay here if they can't take reproach. That is the mark of any good poster. To be able to stay, and debate, even though he or she may not be agreed with. If my words are too harsh, then you certainly won't be able to debate much in the real world either.
#21 Aug 10 2007 at 3:10 PM Rating: Default
So how does a pet get TP?..........lol..... :-P
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