Questing for 490 Defense - Obtained!Follow

Per my understanding, in this thread, 332 defense rating is needed in order to hit the 490 defense mark to be uncrittable by a boss. Doing nothing more than quests in outlands as well as putting gems in sockets this can be accomplished. No instances need be run at all. Please note that much better gear can be obtained through instances as well as crafting and the auction house. This is just a list of items from quests. Please note that at least one of these quests is done in Hellfire Peninsula so waiting until you hit 70 won't work as well if you have chosen a different reward from the quest.

		 
Type      Name                                    Sta  Str  Def Rating     Armor 
Weapon    Grom'tor's Charge                       30        11	 
Shield    King's Bulwark                          25        18             3023 
Ranged    Alley's Recurve                         10 
Head      Reinforced Heaume                       39   17   27             831 
Hands     Area 52 Engineering Gloves              19   10   25             623 
Chest     Breastplate of the Warbringer           45        31            1048 
Legs      Legguards of the Resolute Defender      42        31             942 
Shoulders Nexus-Guard's Pauldrons                 27                       767 
Feet      Ascendant's Boots                       26        21             722     Blue, Yellow Socket 
Back      Cloak of the Valiant Defender           21        15             242 
Waist     Fearless Girdle                         25   12   12             516     Red, Yellow Socket 
Wrist     Junior Technician 3rd Grade Bracers     24        11             436 
Neck      Strength of the Violet Tower            18   9    21 
Ring1     Protector's Mark of the Redemption      22        25 
Ring2     Ring of the Stonebark                   18        19 
Trinket   Dabiri's Enigma                                   30 
Trinket   Regal Protectorate                                26 
					 
     Total Sockets/Bonus                          16   3    9 
 
     Total Bonuses                                407  51   332           9150 
 
All quests can be doing outside of instances. 
Quests are linked under the "type" field and are Alliance quests, I believe all quests have a Horde equilivent though. 
Sockets were done as follows using only uncommon quality gems: 
     Red    : Sovereign Shadow Draenite - 3 Str, 4 Sta 
     Blue   : Enduring Deep Peridot - 4 Sta, 3 Def rating 
     Yellow : Enduring Deep Peridot - 4 Sta, 3 Def rating 

Some of the pieces that are much and obtained through quests in/from instances and the auction are as follows:
Mark of the Ravenguard
Sha'tari Wrought Armguards
Kaylaan's Spaulders(Aldor only)
Sha'tari Vindicator's Waistguard

A few pieces off the Auction House that are crafted:
Felsteel Gloves
Felsteel Helm
Felsteel Leggings

Edit - Added the Felsteel stuff.

Edited, Jul 27th 2007 2:20pm by SkibumOnShiva

don't forget:

Netherwing Protector's Shield
Binds when picked up
Off Hand (Shield)Shield
3615 Armor
80 Block
+22 Stamina
+15 Agility
Equip: Increases the block value of your shield by 23.
Equip: Increases defense rating by 15.

quest reward from mordenai in shadowmoon valley

Your sticky thread is good but it seems more information to get ready for Karazhan and onward than starting out. This thread is just a simple list of equipment that can be quested to get you ready to enter instances. None of the equipment comes from a random drop mob or requires you to enter an instance.

Very nice !!!

Xordon's thread is good too. I looked at that thread and then went out to get my gear dps/pvp gear lol. I only have like 1/3 of the "recommended" items ><

Thanks for the list. I only get to go to 1 or 2 instances a week and was dreading walking into the 70 instances with crappy gear. This quested list has helped me incredibly. I still need to get several items but my def skill went from low 300's to 454 in a week.

nice gear list to have, but there are some problems with this approach.


no. 490 defense is not a requirement until you fight raid bosses (level 73). normal bosses are only 72, which requires 485 defense IF you want to be uncrittable. however, getting crit in a normal instance is a mere annoyance, not a wipe. i was probably around 420 defense when i dinged 70, and i was not having undue difficulties tanking these instances. don't worry about 485 defense until you start heroics.


getting your tank geared up WITHOUT running a single instance will not make for a good tank. tanking is difficult and is all about practice. skill >>>>> gear.

there are good gear lists already that don't require drop rates - as has been pointed out, the warchief's mantle is a 100% guaranteed reward, and you should most definitely run durn while leveling. that's not even a level 70 instance. the best shield you will get is simple - just get 20 EOTS marks and 15k honor. it is far, far better than the one you listed and even lowers your required defense significantly. in fact, the S2 shoulders are much better than anything else you will get pre-raid as well. KoT pants are also guaranteed and soo easy to get.

for gems, i would just stick with +9 stam for your early gear until you have stuff you're going to keep. then start putting +12 in them. this is good 90% of the time; it's very rare that a socket bonus is worth getting.


if you really want to be a good tank, spec protection when you hit 60 and tank EVERYTHING you can while leveling. as an added bonus, you will now be familiar with all the instances when you come back to do them in heroic mode. you'll get some very good gear that way, and you can use this and other lists to supplement that. pick up your BG marks before 70 (much easier in the lower bracket), then just do some AV for the honor. with this approach, you should have a good 11k-12k hp/armor by the time you hit 70 without even trying. then you can get your defense up and start tanking heroics.

do not wait until you hit level 70 AND have 490 defense to start your tanking career. you will suck.

That info from OP is great because i did tank Furnace and Rampart 4 times each so far and.....no drop for me. Soooo it's nice to have this info as a substitution. Hope to have better luck in Coilfang.

yes, he did.




that's not what the OP said.




i'm not trying to discount the work he did in putting this list together. it's a decent list, but the OP specifically wouldn't consider items that you get from quests (100% guaranteed) because they required running an instance. some of the quest chains mentioned in this list are much harder to find a group for than doing instances. i didn't finish the quest for grom'tor's charge until after i had run more than 10 heroics.

he also made some mistakes and gave some very questionable advice about tanking, when the OP doesn't have a tank. those are worth correcting, so up and coming tanks are not misled. for instance:

*what is the defense cap and the purpose of getting to the defense cap? 490 is ONLY for raids, not 5-mans. even 485 is not a goal to shoot for to run normal level 70 instances. it's something you should have to run heroics. new tanks reading this might be apprehensive to tank, thinking they need to get to 490 first.

*NEVER put a +str gem in your tanking gear.

*that shield is not worth getting - the S2 shield is 1000 times better.

*he doesn't mention resilience and how it interacts with defense. of course, resilience is not something to focus on, but it DOES help you become uncrittable.

i realize drops can suck, but getting "prepared" for level 70 instances isn't this complicated. first, get at least 11k hp/armor. second, become level 70. third, go run level 70 instances. if you tank your way from 60 to 70, you will get there by accident.

then you can focus on rounding out your gear to get you ready for heroics.

arghhh.

the OP said he made a list of gear to get you to 490 defense to get you ready to run level 70 instances on regular; you can't dispute that was his intention. i think the author had good intentions, but little experience.

my point in responding was that this is NOT a goal to shoot for. he also had some poor advice on gem selection, so i pointed that out as well. with this list, you might get 490 defense, but you're going to have about 10k health / 9k armor which is not very good. you are much better off trading some of that defense for more EH.

if you want to get geared for heroics/kara, then there are better lists of gear elsewhere. this one won't cut it. so it's not a great list for normal mode and it's not a great list for heroic mode. look at the lists put together by people who have actually been through this, and have learned from it.

i'm done arguing about this; if you don't get it, you don't get it.