Gear List: lvl 70 and Kara gear check.Follow

Imo the aldor weap is too hard to get. It is worth to have a slow weapon to switch to for DPS though, since the increased dmg to Devastate.

Imo the instance drops are the easiest things to get (after perhaps Q's) and the exalted rep rewards the hardest. I'd suggest you gear up your tanking gear by doing the instances to get the closest to top knotch gear as possible. That includes heroix. I'd actually run Heroic SH for the fist, just coz it's awesome for Devastate spamming (I know it's PPM, but hello hasteland).

Also note that items with sockets have a really great ability to become better than items with higher item lvl, but no sockets. In heroics you'll get epic gem drops, and some of them are rather sexy!



It would be very hard to find a relevant quest item for each slot. But if you've got suggestions to things that should be on my list then feel free to add them!

What I did when I made this list was to browse WoWHead and apply a filter. After that my common sense and Utar's idiotic halucinations determined which rank the item got. We were most of the time agreeing on what got 1st, 2nd and 3rd however, so I didn't have to let him down too many times ;D

Too hard to get? It's a rep grind from items dropped that can be traded and drop off easy-to-kill mobs that are in abundant supply. It took me 3 days as a fresh 70 to hit exalted with Scryers. Just running Shadow Labyrinth to hit revered on one character I have picked up 100 marks and 10 armaments. That adds up to 6k rep. The low level marks are oh so easy to pick up as they drop from level 62 mobs as well.

I don't know how it works on your server but it is hard as hell to find a pick up group on mine that can actually finish Shattered Halls in normal mode. I'm in a casual guild which is why I'm leveling a 4th character to 70 as many in my guild don't have a heroic key, much less have all 5 which I would recommend before even attempting a heroic instance in the first place.

I'll take an instance run every chance I can over solo farming.

Every time.

This won't always happen though and as I can't farm much for useful rep in BC solo with the exception of Scryer/Aldor. Also I can have all of the Aldor rep done on one of my other 70's before my warrior even hits 60.

Any chance you could add/compare Thrown items for the ranged slot so we could see how those compare to guns/bows? Would be nice to see how Felsteel Whisper Knives and the like rank.

Awesome list and very much appreciated!!

I got this stickied! Big gz to me (and a small one to Utar...) ;D

Edit: Ah yes... the PvP rewards... Well, to be honest my first intention wasn't to include those. But I guess they have the same right to be on there as all the other gear... Oh well, back to the drawing board! You'll have to excuse me, though, since I've sent quite some time re-coloring the whole thing (I noticed the Blue color was hurting my eyes, and must've done so for you too. And while I was at it I changed the purple color too...) so I might not update it for a short period. I'll get back to it soon enough though! Rest assured :)

Edited, Jul 13th 2007 11:30pm by Xordon

Hm.

You forgot Iceguard for Frost Resistance gear. Also consider looking up some of the old-world crafted stuff from Naxx or AQ40 - the Glacial Cloak is superb, and Gaea's Embrace for a NR cloak is pretty handy.

About the Arena rewards... meh. It's hard to do properly, since for 99% of the cases it's going to end up blowing away anything pre-Kara by a significant margin. The blue PvP rewards you probably should mention, though...

EDIT: Because I can count to one without bullets.

Edited, Jul 20th 2007 1:11pm by RPZip

That was me writing, didn't notice I was logged on Utar after this post, so I went and made another one /nub

Ah ok, so basicly everything you asked me to add was BoE crafted? And I'm still arguing with you?

/slap

Back to the drawing board :)

Ah yes. It's obviously good for TPS, and stam is encouraged with every tanking slot. Thing is, if you add that someone else will some and say "But this one's better than that (doesn't have to, just has to be his opinion. It could happend that it actually is better though)! Add that to the list!" or "This one is just as good! Why don't you add that?"

So the bottom line is I listed the only two weapons I could find that have pure tanking stats, or are upgradable to have so (+8 def rating in the socket, along with the bonus). The rest of the items out there are so similar, and I don't really want a ranged selection of 16 different weapons when that's the slot in your gear you should worry least about :)

Again, I'm not saying your wrong. I'm just explaining why I only have 2 choises there atm. Also trying to paint a picture of why I'd like to keep it that way :P

Right you are. And several other misstakes like that. Edited it all now, so it should be correct :P Also added some of RP's stuff.

You're mixing up defense rating and defense skill. A defense skill of 550 is definatly overkill, since the stat's only optimal up to 490. Sure, it still goves you 0.04% aviodance and mitigation, but I suggest you go for pure avoidance ratings (dodge pref.) after your defense has hit 490.

I do have some good news for you though. You seem to be able to get 495 defense skill from gear only. This is extremly good, since you'll be able to drop 5/5 in anticipation and put those elsewhere. Now, your talent build is a little too much all-out-prot for my taste. You're neglecting most talents that give you TPS (not to mention not getting 1h spec. :o ).

This is a very viable tanking build once you've got > 490 defense skill from gear only. This is also directed more towards kara and not so much towards heroics and such. This might also not be an optimal build for the 25-mans post-kara.

For heroics something like this comes to mind. And for post-kara something like this.

That being said you are very well-geared. For the hit rating: It's recommended to have 3-5% hit when raiding. If you want the optimal number however, you'll be aiming at 8.6%. That's 136 hit rating. It shouldn't be very hard to get, but it will be at the expence of your other stats. These are the stats that should be the aim for any tank pre-kara :

- Minimum of 12k HP unbuffed. Preferably 14k selfbuffed.
- 490-500 defense skill.
- 30% avoidance (Parry + dodge).
- 12-13k armour unbuffed.

These are the stats that should be the aim for any tank post-kara:

- Minimum of 14k HP unbuffed. Preferably 16k selfbuffed.
- 490-500 defense skill (Still, even with 0/5 in anticipation your gear will probably push your defense to over 500. Don't worry though, it's not a BAD stat by any means, and shouldn't be avioded. Rather, you should just aim for other stats that serve your tanking better).
- +8.6% hit (136 hit rating).
- 40% avoidance (Parry + dodge).
- 14-15k armour unbuffed.

Hope it helps.


Edit: Oh look! A furry, bear-looking Furbolg!

Edited, Oct 29th 2007 12:46am by Xordon

What are you using to rank these items?

It might have been mentioned and I'm just too tired to notice it as I'm looking at the screen, and if that is the case, I apologize.

The main thing I have a question on is that it seems that the rankings for all items are PRE socket (just like the ones on the official wow warrior forums, I think it would help a lot if you would put the total tank/dps points of the items after the item itself , and if they have gem slots, maybe put a number for pre-socketing, and the max number after socketing these gems?)

once again, sorry if this has been addressed already or if I'm just too blind to notice that they are in fact, post socket...





edit: this is what i mean

This is an older DW fury gear list

http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=75307661&postId=752408741&sid=1#0

after the item, it shows how much the item is worth in *points* and if it has sockets, it has an additional number in parenthesis which show the max points that item can be worth. and even though this list is outdated, it's still very good to look at gear in general for aspiring DW'ing warriors.

Edited, Jul 26th 2007 11:29pm by russki


edit #2:

For DW'ing, I have another question, 99% of people who go full DW fury to do dps in instances don't get hit, and thusly I must ask why you are not adding leather gear to your guide, as many, MANY leather pieces are vastly superior to dw'ing as most of them add hit, such as http://www.wowhead.com/?item=30538 which are widely regarded as def. the top 2, if not the best straight dps pants available for fury warriors before kara.

Edited, Jul 26th 2007 11:36pm by russki

Edited, Jul 26th 2007 11:40pm by russki

I wouldn't look down on a warrior for wearing leather in a dps set. Hell I had a couple of leather pieces pre-BC in my dps set. Eye patch from blackhand rings a bell.

If a raid boss smacks you that dps plate your wearing might as well be leather. Your still going to be a greasy spot on the floor. On the non-elite trash in kara it makes a difference but that is a very uncommon situation.

But the fact remains that there is so much better itemization in TBC. DPS plate is pretty common, not as common as tank plate, but you get the idea.