Rogue Talent Build ReviewFollow

Awesome guide! Multiple rate-ups !

This guide was really useful!

I just got one of those pve builds and tried to make a version from it. I would be glad if someone could rate it, since i'm new to the rogue class!

Here is the link: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=wre0oxZGsVbbVzxbGot

Also, just to know, the rules for a PvE weapon is something like: MH = lowest attack speed possible sword for SS, mid / high dmg; OFFH = highest attack speed possible dagger / sword, mid / high dmg.

Is this correct or not? Can someone help me? It's my first rogue :)

Best Regards

Thanks for you reply! I'm really new with the class hehe.

Just to know: combat swords are better for leveling spec, right? Also, isn't Remorseless Attacks a good open movie for PvE? I will begin my Rogue today, so i really don't know nothing hehe!

Hmm i see.

So, just to finish hehe, i should go deep down the combat tree and, after that, should finish the points in the Assassitation tree, or begin in a different way? Like putting 2 points in Improved Sinister Strike, 5 in Malice, etc?

At the very low levels, I'd put my first two points into Imp SS, and the next 5 points into Malice. 5% crit might not seem like a lot, but that's a straight 5% increase to your overall DPS.

After that, head down the Combat tree. Talents like DW Spec are just too awesome to hold off on.

this is very nice, somehow missed it during all the build homework I have done periodically. thanks!

OK, after reading this through a couple of times and rereading the sticky I finally went ahead and respecced which I'd been thinking of doing ever since the patch that gave all rogues the ability to use sap the way I had spent talent points to use it. Now I only have 3 points on the subtlety tree. I really like master of deception and camoflage, but without needing those points on sap, I wasn't sure it was worth it to me to put so much into that tree.

I dumped points from camoflage and fleet footed. I know I'm going to miss those. Hopefully in the long run, I won't mind too much.

So I have my mutilate a couple of levels earlier than I had planned on, which I am LOVING. I left two or three points not decided while I continued to consider whether or not to do more with subtlety or more with combat in future. This morning I am decided. Even though I love stealthing around, I'm gonna pile on some more damage with the combat tree. Specifically I think I'll be able to max out dual wield specialization now that I have a plan for the upcoming levels.

I just have to share that the first night I played with mutilate I was a mess. By the next night (aka yesterday) I was feeling like a killing machine. And BTW, last night, I was duoing in Eastern Plaguelands with a lvl 51 pally friend who is the biggest aggro magnet ever. This time I accidentally ran us thru a spot that we should have gone around or fought our way through slowly (my first time in that zone) and we both died with about a gazillion mobs on us. But that was the only death and the first time we got in a situation where he drew in 4 or 5 mobs on us, I was ready and we dispatched them all. Now he is done with termites and I enjoyed helping him find them and get them.

Thank-you so much to Demea and Nooblestick who's work and willingness to teach others has been a big deal to me and really improved me as a player!

You're not gonna go from a CS to a KS as maces in PvP. More likely you're gonna CS then SnD, then Shiv.

In PvE, Evis is used on bosses in a finisher rotation instead of Rupture if the boss is immune to bleeds.

Normal combat mace rotation is 3s/5r(e). That means that you generate 3 combo points, use SnD, then generate 5 combo points and use Rupture (or Evis if the mob is bleed immune), then generate 3 combo points for a SnD, etc.

Of course, it's only effective on bosses; there's no point on anything else. On everything else you're going to SS up to 5 combo points and Evis and the mob will die.

What is a good build for a lvl 29 twink for pvp only?

http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/rogue/talents.html?2053201050521305010513210052020050000000000000000000000000000000000

I was just wondering if this is what the Combat Mutilate build you explained is supposed to look like. Not every point was mentioned. If there are some things that i put wrong then please let me know. I am really interested in using this build.

Also, this build is good up to 70 and even at 70?

Thank you,
Natheron
40 Night Elf Rogue
Lightbringer

Do u think that having Endurance and Imp Sprint instead is alright? They kind of go well together with lowering the sprint time, and have sprint remove all movement impairing effects. I guess this would be best in PvP. But thats what I like about this build, that it fits with PvP and PvE.

might want to include this one
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=i0eboZ0eV0bVzxMZxMjobhoo [11/28/22]

discussion [and it's a long one] can be found here:

http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t14321-rogue_combat_vs_hemo_point_inflection/

with a ton of math and also included, slightly different variations of builds.

I am going to respec to Combat Mutilate. How should I distribute the points? Should I go down the Assas tree and get mutilate as soon as possible, or should I try to get DW as soon as possible, or should I just go down evenly?

40 Rogue currently so 31 points to re-distibute.