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#27 Jul 12 2007 at 7:47 PM Rating: Default
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edited to add more epic gear and the blues mentioned in this thread.
Thanks for the help on that and i hope i'm not missing to much anymore XD
#28 Jul 16 2007 at 8:58 PM Rating: Decent
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added raid specs (extra ways to improve those are always welcome)
reorganized a few things and added the pretty colours ^^






I wonder how long the list of edits would be if I hadent removed them all..
I must have edited this at least 20 times now XD
#29 Jul 16 2007 at 9:11 PM Rating: Default
Very good job on the added speccs. But what I would love to see was a couple more builds. More specifically, a Surv build with more utility. From what I can see, you put a point in Savage Strikes, which I don't see the point of, and I'd like to see slightly higher trap usability.

Does anyone have a Surv build with Wyvern Sting, and Trap talents that doesn't gimp your damage/crit ratio?
#30 Jul 16 2007 at 10:38 PM Rating: Default
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as this is a pre raid list, i'm focusing the specs purely on raiding.
and the point in savage strikes euhm well, there really arent any other options...
you could also get a point in entrapment, deflection or imp. wing clip but i dont see anyone getting more use out of those.

what you're loking for is the 5-man hero build =P
a crapload of CC without (really) gimping damage output.
#31 Jul 16 2007 at 11:50 PM Rating: Default
Hmm, that's more like it.
Thanks.
#32 Jul 24 2007 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
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Not on first page anymore.

Bump
#33 Jul 24 2007 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
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Scammich wrote:
Not on first page anymore.

Bump
Thanks for the bump, but I was going to do that myself anyway since I just updated it =P


Added a couple of items.
Did a spellcheck of the whole list (for those people to stupid to click a link)
Added links to an enchantlist for hunters as well as a consumable list.
Marked gear from heroics with *H*.

And as always if you know more, think something doesnt belong here or any other comment on my list please post it.
(no flames ofcourse, but compliments are welcome Smiley: lol )

- Æthien
#34 Jul 26 2007 at 12:59 AM Rating: Decent
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What about
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=29782&locale=enUS;source=live as a helmet?

Edited, Jul 26th 2007 5:00am by watman
#35 Jul 26 2007 at 9:13 AM Rating: Decent
Nice job putting all this together. How about the Surestrike Goggles v2.0 that engineers can make?

Edited, Jul 26th 2007 12:14pm by Flubberjax
#36 Jul 26 2007 at 9:26 AM Rating: Decent
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nvm, missed it the first scan of your items. :(

Great job on the list, btw.



Edited, Jul 26th 2007 11:27am by azwing
#37 Jul 26 2007 at 9:49 AM Rating: Decent
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Flubberjax wrote:
Nice job putting all this together. How about the Surestrike Goggles v2.0 that engineers can make?
To get those you need to get to 375 Engineering first, and that costs a lot of time and money.
The key to this list (the blue pieces) is that nearly all of them are quested, crafted or gained from normal instances and thus easely accesible to anyone even if they just dinged lvl 70. (some pieces are even available pre 70.)

I'll add a small list with BoP crafted epics though because people keep mentioning them.
#38 Jul 26 2007 at 10:01 AM Rating: Decent
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Would Lykul Bloodbands be an option?

http://www.wowhead.com/?item=24451#00Rz

Easy to acquire and have lasted me until 70. Maybe I'm just having a hard time finding an upgrade.
#39 Jul 26 2007 at 10:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Bloodbands:
18 agi
18 sta
54 ap
vs
Felstalker:
22 agi ------- 18 agi -- 18 agi
11 int ------- 11 int -- 11 int
9 sta -------- 3 sta --- 15 sta
64 Ap -------- 72 Ap --- 64 AP
-------------- 2 Mp5 ---------
4 agi/6 sta - 8ap/2mp5 - 12 sta gem

(+24 Ap enchant is included for all)
you can see the difference right?
the +12 sta gem version would be closest to the bloodbands trading 3 stamina for 11 int and 10 AP.
That difference is big enough for me to say no.

Oh, and the felstalker bracers are used to level Leatherworking by quite a few people so they go for prices way lower then the cost of the mats.
#40 Jul 26 2007 at 10:35 AM Rating: Decent
It's 350 Engineering and you are right it does cost lots of money to make them. :)
#41 Jul 26 2007 at 10:55 AM Rating: Decent
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350, same idea ;)

the main cost however, is getting to 350 LW.
I assume the mats for it are more or less equal to crafted BoE epics.
#42 Jul 26 2007 at 11:31 AM Rating: Decent
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I ask because, as an alternative to buying on the AH or buying the mats, you can get this one for free. That way, you can save your money towards a flying mount or enchants or things of that nature.

Just thought it might be an alternative until something better drops.
#43 Aug 01 2007 at 8:37 PM Rating: Decent
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Great thread not 2 be lost..

Bump!
#44 Aug 04 2007 at 5:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Bump!!!
#45 Aug 19 2007 at 4:02 AM Rating: Decent
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shameless bump.

turned into update:
added petinfo.

and as always: Any constructive critisism, gear I missed, enchants I missed or other tips/tricks that should be added (or removed) are very welcome so please post them.

Edited, Aug 19th 2007 3:03:32pm by Aethien
#46 Aug 20 2007 at 7:58 AM Rating: Excellent
Excellent guide! If I might make a small suggestion, perhaps you could change the [link= (insert URL here)] [ /link] to [wowitem= (insert the witem number in the URL)] Text goes here[ /wowitem]? That way you get the nice mouseover effect. For example, the witem number in the link for Earthwarden's Coif is 28181. If you use the wowitem tag, it looks like this:

[wowitem=28181]Earthwarden's Coif[/wowitem]

Hope that's not too presumptuous of me! Smiley: boozing
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#47 Aug 20 2007 at 11:09 AM Rating: Decent
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How about Malefactor's Eyepatch from Blade's Edge Mountain (from This quest)

It's not as good as some of the others listed, but I do find it to be a bit better than Earthwarden's Coif if you don't have a lot of money to spend on a really good Red and Meta Gem.
#48 Aug 20 2007 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Think we could get this stickied for easy lookup?
#49 Aug 21 2007 at 9:19 PM Rating: Decent
For an epic melee weapon, how about Felsteel Reaper It's a much better version of the Crystalforged War Axe
#50 Aug 26 2007 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
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Wondroustremor the Flatulent wrote:
Excellent guide! If I might make a small suggestion, perhaps you could change the [link= (insert URL here)] [ /link] to [wowitem= (insert the witem number in the URL)] Text goes here[ /wowitem]? That way you get the nice mouseover effect. For example, the witem number in the link for Earthwarden's Coif is 28181. If you use the wowitem tag, it looks like this:

[wowitem=28181]Earthwarden's Coif[/wowitem]

Hope that's not too presumptuous of me! Smiley: boozing
If i could do that, i would have.
but i'm not donating money to this site ;)

I might get premium when i get back to WoW though, taking a break now.

ProjectMidnight wrote:
How about Malefactor's Eyepatch from Blade's Edge Mountain (from This quest)

It's not as good as some of the others listed, but I do find it to be a bit better than Earthwarden's Coif if you don't have a lot of money to spend on a really good Red and Meta Gem.

+16 AP gem: ~75g on my server, just the gem costs 45+~10g for cutting.
Meta gem: ~100g + 15g for cutting or ~135g.
Or the cheaper then cheap PvP meta gem from Auchindoun. (13 spirit shards so easy to get, i've got one in my earthwarden and one in my pvp helm and i had one in my beast lord helm without ever grinding for it)

And if you cant afford to gem your gear, you cant raid.
Because raiding is expensive. (count 50+g a night)

#51 Sep 04 2007 at 3:44 AM Rating: Decent
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*bump*

will add in a bunch of macro's someday soon...
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