Pre Raid Gear, tips and tricks.Follow

This topic contains a large list of pre-raid gear that is suitable to start raiding with, epic gear pre-raiding and tips and tricks to help you start raiding.
With gear from this list you should be ready to raid karazhan and start your raiding career in the World of Warcraft.

NOTE:
- PvP gear isnt optimal and I wouldnt get more then a few pieces.
Same goes for Leather gear as that usually misses out on int and Mp5.
(and yes, the BG pvp epics are listed under blues, because thats what they are equal to for PvE)
- all gear in this list is obtainable pre raid.
- gear marked as *H* is from heroic instances.
- Gear marked with <!!>, <bm>, <sv> or <mm> is the best (non epic) piece in my opinion.
<<These pieces are generally the most balanced and i cant guarantee that combining all them would give the best combination of pieces.>>

head:
Earthwarden's coif Steamvaults quest
Beast Lord helm mech, pathaleon.
<!!>Gladiator's Chain Helm PvP helm.
Helm of Desolation Aeonus, Black morass.
Stalker's Helmet of Second Sight SMV quest Alliance start of questline, Horde start
Dream-Wing Helm Shadow Labyrinth first boss
Stylin' Crimson hat Leatherworker
*H*Mok'Nathal Mask of Battle, Lieutenant drake, Old Hillsbrad heroic

leather:
Helm of the Claw This quest
Wastewalker Helm Epoch Hunter Heroic Drunholde.
Stylin' Jungle Hat load of offstats, but still some nice stats.

enchant: glyph of ferocity, 90g CE revered (+34 AP +16 hit)

neck:
jagged berk pendant botanica, warp splinter.
<sv>necklace of the deep jewelcrafter.
Natasha's Choker, this quest
*H*Blood Guard's Necklace of Ferocity, Blood guard Porung, Shattered halls heroic
*H*Traitor's Noose, Mennu the betrayer, Slave pens heroic
*H*<bm/mm>Bone Chain Necklace, the black stalker, underbog heroic MM/BM

shoulder:
Gladiators Chain Spaulders, PvP shoulders
Towering Mantle of the Hunt botanica, sarranis
<!!>Beast Lord Mantle Steamvaults, kalithresh
*H* Pauldrons of Desolation Quagmirran, Slave pens heroic
*H* Wyrmfury Pauldrons, Epoch Hunter, Old hillsbrad heroic

Leather:
*H* Wastewalker Shoulderpads Avatar of the Martyred, Auchenai Crypts heroic.

enchant:aldor (+Ap focused)/scryer (+crit focused).

back:
Cloak of the Coming Night, Magister's terrace.
Cloak of Impulsiveness Durnholde, first boss.
Cloak of malice Shattered halls first boss
Skyguard's Drape Skyguard revered
Cloak of the Craft World Drop
Dark Cloak of the Marsh this quest
Delicate Green Poncho this quest
<!!>Auchenai Death Shroud, Avatar of the Martyred, Auchenai Crypts.

enchant:+12 agility

chest:
<sv>Laughing Skull Battle-Harness 2nd boss BM
Hauberk of Desolation epoch hunter, durnholde heroic.
Beast Lord Cuirass warp splinter, botanica
Breastplate of rapid strikingworld drop
Felstalker breastplate leatherworker
<bm/mm> Gladiators Chain Armor PvP Chest.
Salvagers haberk lower city rep.
*H*Shard Encrusted Breastplate, Tavarok, mana tombs heroic

Leather:
*H* Wastewalker tunic Keli'dan the breaker Blood furnace heroic.

enchants: +6 all stats, +6mp5, +150hp, +150mp

wrist:
<!!>Bracers of the Forest Stalker, Magister's terrace.
Auchenai bracers this quest
Felstalker bracers leatherworker
*H*Emerald Eye Bracer, Keli'dan the breaker, blood furnace heroic
*H*Bracers of Shirrak, shirrak the dead watcher, auchenai crypts heroic

Leather:
Spymistress's Wristguards This Quest

enchant: +24 ap, +4 stats

hands:
Ar'tor's mainstay, this quest
Gauntlets of the Redeemed Vindicator, Aldor quest
Gladiators Chain Gauntlets PvP Gloves
<!!>Beast Lord Handguards Shattered Halls, kargath
Gauntlets of Desolation Shattered Halls, kargath
*H*Hungarhide Gauntlets, Hungarfen, Underbog heroic

Leather:
Gloves of the Unbound Soccothrathes, Arcatraz
Wastewalker gloves Kargath Bladefist, Shattered halls.
Fel Leather Gloves leatherworker

enchants: +15 agi (0.375% crit), +26 AP.

waist:
Tarren Mill Defender's Cinch, this quest
Rune-Engraved Belt, this quest
Shattrath's Champion Belt, this quest
telaari hunting girdle shattered, nethekurse
Marksman's Belt Nagrand PvP belt.
Girdle of Gale Force world drop.
Felstalker Belt leatherworker
Blessed Scale Girdle Sha'tar revered rep.
*H*<!!>Girdle of the blasted reaches, Omor the unscarred, Ramparts heroic
*H* Archery Belt of the Broken, Mennu the betrayer, Slave pens heroic

Leather:
*H* Dunewind Sash Gahz 'Ahn, Underbog heroic.
*H* Liar's Cord Rokmar the crackler, Slave Pens Heroic.


legs:
Sunfury legguards, this quest
Beast Lord leggings Steamvaults, Kalithresh
Greaves of desolation Sethekk, Ikiss
<sv>Scaled Greaves of Patience Durnholde, Scarloc
Scales of the beast World drop
Gladiators Chain Leggings, pvp legs
*H* Barbaric Legstraps the Black Stalker, Heroic Underbog.
*H*<bm/mm> Emerald-Scale Greaves, Captain scarloc, Old Hillsbrad heroic

Leather:
Fel Leather Leggings Leatherworker.
*H* Leggings of the unrependant Blood furnace, Heroic.
*H* Wastewalker Leggings Shaffar, Mana tombs heroic.
*H* Mennu's Scaled leggings Mennu, Slave pens heroic.


enchants: clefthoof (+stamina and agility) or cobra armor kit (+AP and crit).
If you have lower then 6.7-7k HP, go for clefthoof. else Cobra kit.

feet:
Outland striders Arcatraz, sereketh
<sv>Sky-Hunter Swift Boots sethekk halls, Syth
*H* <bm/mm> wild stalker boots, watchkeeper golgomar, Ramparts heroic.

Leather:
Boots of the Shifting sands Laj, botanica
Fel Leather Boots leatherworker

enchant: +12 agi

ring:
Band of Celerity, Magister's Terrace.
Naliko's revenge, Alliance quest
Kaylaan's Signet, Aldor Quest
Band of anguish, Long Alliance Questchain.
<!!>Ravenclaw Band Sethekk Halls last boss.
Slayer's Mark of the Redemption, Alliance Quest Chain
Pathfinder's Band World drop.
Lightwarden's Band Aldor Revered
Ring of Umbral DoomThorngrin the Tender, Botanica.
*H* Ring of the Shadow Deeps Gahz'an, Underbog Heroic.
*H* Averinn's Ring of Slaying Nazan/Vazruden, Heroic Ramparts.



trinket:
<!!>Bladefist's Breadth, Horde start of questchain, Alliance start
Power infused mushroom, This Quest, Sporregar neutral *Trashfight Trinket only!*
<!!>Hourglass of the unraveller Temporus, Black Morass
Core of Ar'kelos, This Questchain
Draenei war talisman, This Questchain
Abacus of Violent odds Pathaleon the calculator, Mechanar.
Mark of Conquest (alliance)/horde version, World PvP (hellfire for badges, bought in Zangarmarsh)
*H*Icon of Unyielding Courage Keli'dan the breaker, Blood Furnace heroic.

melee weapon:
Axe of shattered Dreams, Magister's terrace.
Terok's quill, this quest
<!!>Sonic Spear Shadow Labs, Murmur
Chrystalforged Waraxe World drop
Hellforged hallberd Revered Honor's Hold reputaion
Blackened Spear Revered Thrallmar rep reputation
1H The Sunbreaker, Shattered Sun Offensive revered.
1H Bombardier's Blade, Shattered Sun Offensive revered.
1H Latro's Dancing Blade, Vexallus Magister's Terrace.
1H Latro's Shifting Sword, Aeonus Black Morass note: only use when you have the dancing blade, not worth it without the setbonus.
PvP weapon (there are equivalent polarms and 2H swords.)

Enchants: Savagery(+70 Ap) or +35 agi (0.88% crit)

ranged weapon:
<bm>Truestrike Crossbow, Shattered Sun revered.
Bloodwarder's rifle, this quest (detailed explanation in the first post underneath it)
Telescopic Sharprifle Mechanar, Pathaleon
Emberhawk Crossbow Arcatraz, Soccothrathes
<sv/mm>Rocket Ripper X54 Steamvaults, Steamrigger
valanos Longbow world drop
felsteel boomstick engineer.
Skyfire Hawk-bow Om'rogg Shattered Halls
Consortium Blaster Consortium Revered reputation.
Ornate Khorium Rifle Crafted, engineer
*H*Adamantine Repeater, Keli'dan the breaker, blood furnace heroic
*H*Starbolt Longbow, pandemonius, mana tombs heroic

Enchants: +10/12 dmg or +2% crit
Dont bother with a +12 dmg/+2%crit for blue weapons, generally its not worth it to spend that much gold on a blue. (for example, on my server +10 dmg goes for ~25g, +12 for 100g and +2% crit for 400g)

An 18(+) slot ammo pouch/quiver is also needed, you can get a quiver from your Nagrand rep group or AV and an ammo pouch from Consortium.

Small note in between, this is what you end up with statwise if you get all the items i piced to be optimal.
BM, MM, SV
(you need to activate AotH/TSA yourself in the buffs section right under the gear, the site doesnt remember buffs)


Epic Gear outside of raids:
*L* = leather gear, nearly all of these are at the back end of heroics.
BoP Crafted gear is Good too (because you people keep asking about it)

Head:
Storm Helm, blacksmith
Netherdrake Helm Leatherworker
Warpstalker Helm Heroic Badge reward.

Neck:
Adamantite chain of the unbroken Quaqmirran SP heroic.
Choker of Vile Intent Heroic Badge Reward.
Shattered Sun Pendant of Might, Shattered Sun exalted.

Shoulder:
*L*Mantle of Shadowy Embrace, Keli'dan the breaker, blood furnace heroic

Back:
Vengeance Wrap tailor.
Blood Knight War Cloak Heroic Badge Reward.
Terokk's Might, Summoned 5 man boss Skettis quest.

Chest:
Hauberk of the War Bringer, Magister's terrace normal.
Tunic of the Ranger Lord, Magister's Terrace Heroic.
Thick Netherscale Breastplate leatherworker

wrist:
Bracers of the Hunt Talon King Ikiss, Sethekk halls heroic.
Steadying Bracers Heroic Badge reward
*L*Master assasin Wristwraps heroic badge reward
Bindings of Lightning Reflexes Leatherworker <NOTE> Requires 4 Heart of Darkness to make (wich only drop in BT and cost ~900g a piece) and the pattern also only drops in BT from only 2 bosses so the cost for it will be ~5000+g, quite nice for a pair of bracers ;)

Hands:
Swiftsteel Gloves blacksmith
Felfury Gauntles blacksmith
Crystalhide Handwraps Apexis Shard, World drop.
Netherdrake Gloves leatherworker
Handguards of the Steady Pathaleon, Mechanar heroic.
Gauntlets of Sniping Heroic Badge reward.
*L*Trickster's Stickyfingers heroic badge reward

Waist:
Girdle of Ferocity Murmur, Shadow Labyrinth heroic.
*L* Girdle of the Deathdealer, Aeonus, heroic black morass
War-Feathered Loop Heroic Badge reward
Belt of the Black Eagle Crafted <NOTE> requires 2 Nether Vortex, and those only drop in TK/SSC (and are BoP) so getting them will be expensive.

Legs:
Leggings of Beast Mastery World drop (and i'm far from impressed by them....)
Wyrmscale GreavesEpoch Hunter, CoT: Durnholde heroic and Skyriss, Arcatraz Heroic.
Shifting Camouflage Pants Heroic Badge reward
*L*Midnight Legguards, Quagmirran, slave pens heroic
*L*Shallow-Grave Trousers heroic badge reward

Feet:
Boots of the Endless Hunt Warp Splinter, Botanica heroic.
*L* Sunrage Treads, Magister's Terrace normal.
*L* Shadowstep Striders, Harbringer Skyriss, arcatraz heroic
*L*Nyn'jah's Tabi Boots Heroic badge reward

Rings:
Truestrike Ring World drop
Eye of the Stalker the Black Stalker, Underbog heroic
Shaffar's band of Brutality Yor, Mana Tombs heroic
Ring of Arathi Warlords Heroic Badge reward.

Trinkets:
Bloodlust Brooch Heroic Badge reward.

Melee Weapon
Vengeful Gladiator's Waraxe
*1H* Breeching Comet, Magister's Terrace Heroic.

Ranged Weapon:
Wrathtide Longbow Kalithresh, Steamvaults Heroic.
Don Santos' Famous Hunting Rifle World drop
Khorium Destroyer engineer
Veteran's musket Exalted reputation with Honor's Hold.
Marksmen's Bow Exalted reputation with Thrallmar.
Chrystalline Crossbow Exalted reputation with Ogri'la

Added Notes:

Detailed hunter gemlist, thanks to SynnTastic.
<< needs to be updated cause i think there's quite a few things missing... but i'm to lazy atm>>

Yellow Sockets:
1.+Hit until cap.
Rigid Dawnstone - +8 hit – Jewelcrafting
Rigid Lionseye - +10 Hit – Jewelcrafting Pattern:Hyjal Summit rep reward

2. +hit/+agi.
Glinting Noble Topaz - +4 hit/+4 agi
Glinting Fire Opal - +4 hit/+5 agi - heroic black morass
Glinting Pyrestone - +5 hit/+5 agi - jewelcrafter pattern:Hyjal summit rep reward


3.+AP/+Crit.
Unstable Citrine - +8 AP/+4 Crit – Vendor BEM Event
Wicked Noble Topaz - +8 AP/+4 Crit – jewelcrafting
Deadly Fire Opal - +8 AP/+5 Crit – Drop – Arcatraz
Inscribed Ornate Topaz - +10 Ap/+5 Crit – PvP Reward – Champion’s Hall
Wicked Pyrestone - +10 AP/+5 Crit – Jewelcrafting Pattern: Hyjal Summit rep reward


4. +Crit.
Smooth Dawnstone - +8 Crit – Jewelcrafting
Smooth Ornate Dawnstone - +10 Crit – PVP Reward
Smooth Lionseye - +10 Crit – Jewelcrafting Pattern: Hyjal Summit rep reward


Red Socket:
1. +AP.
Bright Living Ruby - +16 AP – Jewelcrafting
Bold Ornate Ruby - +20 AP – PvP Reward
Bright Crimson Spinel - +20 AP – Jewelcrafting Pattern: Hyjal Summit rep reward
Crimson Sun - +24 AP – Jewelcrafting (BoP!)


2. +Agi.
Delicate Living Ruby - +8 Agi – Jewelcrafting
Delicate Crimson Spinel - +10 Agi – Jewelcrafting Pattern: Hyjal Summit rep reward


Blue Socket:
1.+Agi/+ Sta.
Shifting Nightseye - +4 Agi/+6 Sta – Jewelcrafting
Shifting Shadowsong Amythist - +5 Agi/+7 Sta – Jewelcrafting Pattern: Hyjal Summit rep reward

2.+ Ap/+ Sta.
Unstable Amethyst - +8 Ap/+6 Sta - Vendor BEM event
Balanced Nightseye Jewelcrafting
Balanced Shadowsong Amethyst - +10 Ap/+7 Sta - Jewelcrafter Pattern: Hyjal Summit rep reward

3.+AP/+MP-5
Infused Nightseye - +8 AP/+2 MP-5 – Jewelcrafting
Infused Shadowsong Amethyst - +10 AP/+2 MP-5 – Jewelcrafting Pattern: Hyjal Summit rep reward

Meta Socket:
Relentless Earthstorm Diamond: +12 Agi +3% Crit. 2 Red, 2 Yellow, 2 Blue

Gems do not need to match their socket colour.
If the socketbonus is not worth it, place either + AP or +Agi gems in the sockets.

Super Sites and threads you need to read:

TKAsomething forums More advanced math and theory than here, and very helpful to get you from good to great. :)

Cheeky's Spreadsheet See wich upgrade/rotation gets you the best dps.
Thank cheeky for this, on your bare knees.

Shotrotations explained Read it, Learn it, Love it.
Thanks to lythrdskynrd, pure awesome.

Hunter Consumable List+info
Thanks to TKA.

Anyone that comes to a raid with unenchanted gear and without the proper consumables is a slacker, so pay attention to that!


'Cookie-Cutter' raid builds:
BM, Machine gun
MM, Big numbers or MM/sv
SV, Endless crit or CC master

1 SV rest BM is the best for raids, MM/sv and CC master arent geared towards raiding as much as the other specs.
Also, Improved hunters mark and effeciency can be switched.
Effeciency is better for personal use, but in a raid with many physical dps your Imp. HM will help a lot.
In the end its a personal choice.

for every hunter, ~7k hp ~6.25k mp will be good
BM: 20% crit and 1650AP
MM: 20% crit and 2000AP
SV: 27.5% crit and 1650AP (~650 Agi unbuffed)
(AP with AotH)
~5% +hit for starting karazhan, hitcapped for the later bosses.
(surefooted ofcourse counts for 3%)
Note: these stats are to aim for, they are relatively high and generally high enough for the whole of karazhan.
Dont be afraid to do whatever you can to get their though ;)
Also, its better to be over the top a bit on crit and a bit low on AP because raidbuffs give a lot more AP then crit.

Pets:
check Petopia for more and detailed information.

In raiding you want top dps from your pet, simply because that is all it can do.
A list of popular raiding pets:
Ravager: Best dps pet because of Gore+bite and high base dps.
cat: virtually the same as ravagers only exchanging gore with claw.
Slightly worse at dps because gore is better then claw.
Windserpent: Used to be top dps but lightning breath has been nerfed.
Though it still does good damage and its the only one that can do damage from a distance.
WS can probably do more dps then ravagers if you have enough crit, however this doesnt come into view until you are T5(+) geared.
WS also currently have a lot of trouble wich forces you to take LB off of autocats and incorporate it into your macro(s).
Scorpid: Used to be top dps, but since Scorpid poison got nerfed, they are back to being weak dps pets used only in arena to keep healers dispelling.
Wolf: Furious howl doesnt require your pet to be in melee range so wolves give you (and your group) a bit of extra damage when its impossible to send in your pet.
Sadly, there isnt a new furious howl in tBC so its not really that good anymore.
Owl/bat: decent dps but their strength lies in screech.
Screech is a powerful debuff when fighting melee mobs, However, in my opinion screech doesnt shine in raids.
carrion birds are the same as owls/bats only with lower dps and more hp.

Dash/Dive is a useful tool for pets, it allows them to get out of melee/AoE fast to help them survive longer.
Thus my advice is to leave it off of autocast as you dont want your pet to reach a boss before the tank anyway and being able to get it back quickly is a big help.

General rules of thumb:
* Your pet is melee, that means that you should place it where the other melee is.
* If melee has to run out of range, so does your pet.
* If your pet is taking damage make sure you have mend pet up a lot.
* Avoidance, Great stamina (and resistances) are important, they keep your pet alive longer.
* Armor isnt as good because your pet wont get a direct hit, and nearly all AoE is magical damage.(gruul is the exception here, getting max armor and stamina there will be great for keeping your pet alive)
* If your pet does get a direct hit, its dead anyway.
* And ofcourse: Cobra reflexes is a must, it is a big improvement to dps.

Hunter Macro's
Note: to make a macro open chat and type /macro
You will then get a nice box where you can make new macro's, give them a nice picture and a name.
The most common shooting cycle macro's, you need to test for yourself wich works best as it differes greatly with weaponspeed and latency/fps.

/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/castsequence reset=3/target !auto shot, steady shot
/castrandom arcane shot, multi-shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget,nodead] kill command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

No CC present, 1.5:1 shooting cycle
shooting cycle with Auto, steady, arcane and multishot.

/console Sound_EnableSFX 0
/castsequence reset=3/target !auto shot, steady shot
/castrandom arcane shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget,nodead] kill command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()
/console Sound_EnableSFX 1

CC Present, 1.5:1 shooting cycle
shooting cycle with only auto, steady and arcane shot.

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Hide()
/castsequence reset=3 Steady Shot, !Auto Shot
/cast [exists,target=pettarget,nodead] Kill Command
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear(); UIErrorsFrame:Show()

BM Auto-steady with killcommand
basic BM shooting cycle.

#showtooltip Steady Shot
/cast !Auto shot
/cast [target=pettarget, exists] Kill command
/cast Steady shot
/script UIErrorsFrame:Clear()

3:2 Macro, no castsequence wich is better for dps.
Its a clobbering macro though and it will make you clip some stuff.

all 4 shooting cycle macro's work through spamming the button.
Add in the "/castrandom Lightning Breath" line if you are using a Windserpent.


Any constructive critisism, gear I missed, enchants I missed or other tips/tricks that should be added (or removed) are very welcome so please post them.


Thanks in advance for any help,
-Æthien

The credits for making this are not just for me, i couldnt have made it anywhere near as complete as it is now without all the people from Allakhazam and TKA that helped. :)

Edited, Nov 16th 2007 12:12pm by Darqflame yay sticky thanks DF <3

Edited, May 27th 2008 2:32am by Aethien

Edited, Nov 8th 2008 12:52pm by Azuarc

the chestpiece is close to T5, belt and bracers equal to kara gear.
i'd say they're good enough ;)

I didnt include them because they require having leatherworking youself.
basically, if you're in full blues lvl67-68+ (most lvl 70) with the right stats your gear will do for kara.

so if you arent sure about some pieces of your gear, check if they are equal to the stuff in this list.

Too much work put into this list to have it disappear on page 3 or so.

Massive update, added many items including leather.
Added some stats to aim for in gear.
Started adding Epic gear outside of raids.
added nature resist gear (what i could find)

thank you ^^

they are the same pieces, so you cant have them both at the same time.
and i would make the Dragonscale Breastplate first because that is the only item that you cant replace/find an equal for in Heroics/Kara.

adding it in now..
Stupid i didnt think of it earlier.

Try these on for size - the Veteran's Chain battleground epics:

http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=32809&locale=enUS;source=live
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=32797&locale=enUS;source=live
http://wow.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?witem=32785&locale=enUS;source=live

Rate up, this needs to be a sticky! :)

I'm still working on my Scaled Greaves of Patience (ran Old Hillsbrad 4x now)... I'm finally STARTING to get there... lol.

EDIT: I'd also add Delicate Green poncho from the Nagrand quest. That seems a feasible alternative if you don't want to wait for the drop from Durnholde and it's fairly easy to get :)

Edited, Jul 9th 2007 3:05pm by ZulFrieze

Another option for a neck piece for people who haven't gotten an instance drop yet would be Natasha's Choker from this quest.

Ahh, sorry, I guess since the list is TOWARDS raiding, the 6 mana/5 on the Boots of Endless Hunt and a bit of AP would be better than 0.8% crit from the PVP boots.

P.S. Survival hunters really got screwed over by Blizzard's need to provide the same gear for both shamans and hunters.

Edited, Jul 10th 2007 11:39am by seroster

Nice, I'm no war so i can't comment on the gear but asfar as layout: try to state the more important stats after the item name. Don't make us click on them all with 10 windows open to compare them all.

Ok, heres an idea from the armory. If your rating them by numbers have the lower items show a negative state from the number one item. Or the other way around from the worst to best. I.E. item number 1 has 50sta and 25 str, item two has 25 sta and 50 str so it would show the difference of -25sta and +25str.

All your specs have 5/5 improved hunters mark.
That is an assumption I would not make when doing pure raid specs.
Those points especially hurt with the survival spec (a marksman hunter will have enough points left).
You could e.g. go from Survival (0/25/36) to either 5/20/36 or 0/20/41.
With the last build you can either choose to place the last point in 3/3 thrill of the hunt or 1/1 for readiness.
From my experience 5/5 efficiency and 2/3 thrill of the hunt is sufficient, so I went for readiness.

All those builds are a lot better if you don't have to spend 5/5 on improved hunters mark. With survival you can see the benefit you can get from those 5 talent points.
I'd recommend that those die hard marksman spec into hunters mark. Or let BM hunters spec into that (instead of 5/5 efficiency as BM hunters already need a shadow priest to make that spec really strong).

I see a lot of Sonic Spears. I see the alternatives, but they just don't seem as good. Is there anything else that is equal to or better than the Sonic Spear?

I'm just one of those weird guys that doesn't want to wear the same shirt and shoes as someone else at the party.