i got crit 5 times....Follow

....while under the effect of frost nova.

the scene was as thus: a paladin and myself defending snowfall graveyard from some horde who were intent on forcing a turtle in AV. i am, for those that do not know, a night elf warrior, so i was shadowmelded off to the side while the human paladin sat his mount on the bridge.

in comes an undead priest, followed by two undead mages. they begin to recap, and one notices the paladin. i charge and fear, the paladin comes in, tosses a heal, stuff happens, and he goes down just as i decimate the priest.

me vs two mages. both with ice barrier up (so the majority of their points is into ice). i get novaed, so i trinket out of it. MS crit one mage for More Life Than He'd Like To Lose, that mage blinks. second mage comes in and re-novas me and im stuck.

to be completely honest, i totally expected to die. one mage is enough of a problem. two, especially double ice, is hell. but heres what pissed me off:

while under the affects of this second, reduced-duration frost nova, i received FIVE (5) crits. three from ice lance, two from fire blast, all in excess of 1500 damage.

now, as noted above, this pissed me off, at least initially. part of me was pretty proud of the fact that it took ~7500 damage worth of spells to bring me down. i felt goliath-like. it was pretty cool.

but ive heard that frost nova is supposed to have "like a 95% chance" (to quote some mages) to break on a crit. ANY crit, especially if you go over a certain damage threshold. considering the lowest of these hits was for about 1350 damage (highest was just shy of 1700), i have to wonder if this is true. as noted in the subject title, i took five of these crits with nary a thing i could do.

yes, it was frost nova. no, it wasnt frostbite. yes, i took five back-to-back crits while novaed and it did not break.

any theories as to why this happened?

Edited, Apr 15th 2007 6:04pm by Quor

no theories, Quor. I had managed to score 3 crits with 4 hits of ice lance on a frost novaed target while on PvE missions (questing). Its more inconsistant than pre-nerf and even more bizzare post-nerf. I do not know how it was like previously but I know that triple critting on a FNed target with ice lance was like happening pretty consistantly. This gave rise to the change as ppl was abusing the spell a little with shatter+AP. Giving icelance a 6sec cooldown would have been the best solution (and up its damage a little) since there is no way a FN would last more than the time for a mage to get another one off. I would say its a bit buggy post nerf (or bizzare) as FN would break at the most inconvienent times (ignite ticks, fireball ticks, pyro ticks.... yet I could most of the time hit 2-3 scorches).

sometimes, I wished they just changed shatter instead of doing this weirdo thing to FN. It was fine before why break something that is working?

hmm, figured it was bad luck. but wow. five.

ok, thanks guys.

theory: warriors shouldn't expect to win against a (let alone TWO) frost mage. the sad part is that this only a theory now.

that said, i share your flabbergasted disbelief but it's not an impossibility only pretty unlikely. sorry bout your luck =\

Yea warriors have a ton of health nowadays. 3-4 fireballs with crits most the time to try and take one down.

it's not glitchy ... it's just a bad roll

saying something is glitched even as an after thought give people reason to doubt something making users feel that hey... Mages are OP even more now with glitched FN's

I'd just say scratch your head and move on if you got 5critted while in nova... it sucks but like someone said before 5% or even less is still a % that can be rolled over and over.. it's slim pickings but it's true

lmao. golden.
Sad that it's true tho. More qq on mages and we'll see other nerfs. Like highest level water can only be summoned 2 at a time, instead of 10. And it costs double mana. Yeah.. rogues should complain about that..

I agree with Filterspawn.

It is very possible that one (or maybe both) mages used FN of their water elementals.

Edited, Jul 10th 2007 2:15pm by simioncerchez

That's just some bad luck for you right there, I've had occasions where I killed people with just one nova and a steady stream of lances, but noone in their right mind would count on it, it just doesn't happen that often.

You should disregard the fire blast crits though due to the double crit technique of firing fireblast right after icelance/frost bolt. They land at the same time and benefit from the same crit chance increase of frozen targets.

Probibly server lag. Last night in WG it looked like a Rogue dropped me instantly even with Ice Barrier. Looked over my combat log and saw it wasn't "just" him... the pally that seemed to show up right as I died had a few hits in too.

I'm sure there are ways for lag to make it seem like you were nova'd the full time, when the mages could have gotten lucky, broke the Nova on the first 3-4 crits, then landed the last ones with nova broken... you just didn't notice it.

To the above poster on locks... yes, locks suck. I have yet to figure out how to beat them when there cooldowns are up. Only chance I get is when I don't get feared and it's a shootout, even then sometimes... ><


Kz

I want that guy's luck. I've never gotten more than 2 crits off any given FN.