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Just sticky this already?


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very well done (im just grabbing this in my list of posts so i can use it later)

Defiance is not required to tank at all and yes up to my pint (lvl 41) on my warrior i can tank perfectly using whatever i want but sword and shield makes the group go a lot faster because u use less of the healers mana

/bumping cause it belongs up front.

For Axhed:

Great work on this. Just curious what your impression is so far on leveling with DW/Fury vice 2H Arms?

initial impressions of leveling dw fury post level 40: if you've got the gold to spend on consumables and weapons and are willing to do so, it's great. if not, meh.

it certainly feels faster, because you can button mash heroics and convince yourself you're playing good... but with average gear (but a good slow 2H) and methodical execution i still think arms does more damage.

adding +dmg chants, sharpening stones, and gift of arthas pots tips the scales heavily towards dw fury.

Edited, Mar 18th 2007 8:14pm by axhed

I am willing to admit that I was relatively low for the instance condsidering the elites were 3-4 lvl's higher than I was. I don't think "defiance" would have been a saving grace either way, but hey, we're all entitled to our own opinions. And thats exactly what they are. There really insn't anything to debate since we're not in debate class. You can have your defiance and be a true "tank" and I will sac the prot tree and go the road of PvP.

Im not full prot. Im only 15 points in protection. Just suggesting that 3 points in defiance helps dramatically and shouldnt be overlooked.

DW Fury will always do more Sustained damage in PvE


IF...you have the gear for it.

It is much easier to overcome the miss rate with 2H then it is with DW. Unless you specifically know what you are doing and what gear to take, it is difficult to get yourself enough +hit to not gimp yourself with DW. This is especially hard at lower levels when the itemization is just not there. If you do want to go DW Fury, then what I reccomend is to get 5/5 Cruelty right away and then go down the Arms tree to Impale, while using 2H weapons to level. Once you are at the Impale point, you will start to see better itemization for DW Fury and can start to work down the Fury tree till you get to DW Specialization and that coupled with +hit gear starting to pop up, will make Fury lots less painful to level. There's nothing quite like missing 4 hits in a row.

This is just my opinion and you can do whatever you like. That being said, the miss rate for DW Fury on same leve or 1-2 level higher mobs can be abhorrent without any +hit gear.


Agreed. Rate up for that statement. You can't dismiss threat as an ancillery factor even when not tanking, lest you find yourself randomly tanking something you don't want to.


Agreed and disagreed. You're right, this probably wasn't the Warriors fault, was probably not a good group, HOWEVER, what you aren't mentioning in your whole statement was the reason for the constant wiping. If it was because the boss kept turning to other people and killing them, then yes indeed, it was your fault. Defiance would have helped you a ton on this. Know why? 15% free threat. FREE. You don't have to do anything special. For as much as you were probably missing the mob and having your attacks dodged, 15% extra threat on everything you did land probably would have helped. Don't be so dismissive.


Definantly. If you are at all going a hybrid build to help your tanking (and no it doesn't gimp your DPS that much) Defiance is a must simply because it makes your job easier. I'm lazy and I'm all for easy.

The number of bosses that can be stunned I can probably count on 1 hand. Same with Raid Mobs, as you start to progress further in content, the fewer mobs can be stunned.

shameless bump

Am I the only one who finds Impale rather...underwhelming? All it does is take a critical bonus from +100% to +120%. Granted, this can be a decent chunk of damage, but I don't think it'd be my first option...I'd rather fill out 2h spec/poleaxe first, or get Cruelty back.

Oh, I totally agree; I'm just prodding trying to see what makes everyone think Impale is so awesome. It's great if you need the points to fill out the tree to get to 41, but it's not all that hot in itself, so I was wondering why people seem to take it immediately when it becomes available.