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Actually, I'm pretty sure that you're the only person on this site that still plays that game.

All the more reason to share pictures!

Not 'cause I care if anyone here plays or not but just 'cause I liked the look.

Good for you?

CoH character creator alone is better than most mmos out right now.

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ftfy :P

I used to play CoH. I also played Champions Online for a while too. I'm really not very good at sticking with MMOs.

Nah, you're right. CoH is better than plenty of MMOs.

EQ took from AD&D much more directly than Tolkien and you're about 35 years late for the "Gygax stole from Tolkien!" train.

Edited, Aug 11th 2010 7:50pm by Jophiel

Nah, AD&D borrowed from a lot more than Tolkien. Arthurian legends from the Middle Ages, the Conan novels from the 1930's, Fafhrd/Grey Mouser/Lankhmar from the 1930's, Eddison's Zimiamvia novels, Beowulf, Gilgamesh, Lovecraftian stories from the 1920's, Biblical stories from antiquity, Robin Hood, Norse myth, Greek myth, Egyptian myth, etc etc.

EQ took a lot from AD&D (and I'd say a lot more directly from AD&D than directly from Tolkien) with its inky-skinned "dark elves", bullywug-like Frogloks, gelatinous cubes, the Monk class, ghoul paralysis, Beholders/Evil eyes, and so on. And that's without thinking too hard about it.

There was nothing stopping LoTRO from being more unique, it's just that most of its "uniqueness" was superficial (Morale instead of hit points, Lore-Master instead of mage types) and it was basically just another fantasy MMORPG derived from EQ's basic formula.

Yeah. The graphics in CO are annoying. They went for "comic bookish" and took it waaaaay too far IMO. The combat system, while not ideal (and certainly bearing little resemblance to the Hero Game system the PnP game actually uses), does allow for significant customization and the game is absolutely designed for soloing. A casual gamer can log on for an hour or two and blast stuff and have fun without worrying about getting "stuck" on missions that they need to grab extra people for.

CoH is much better eye candy. I guess the only problems I ever had with it is that the AT structure pretty much forced you into just a smallish number of builds (not as bad as some games, but still limited), and the mission tracks get old after the 4th or 5th time you've been through them. COs crafting system is much better than CoH as well. I should say that it's limited enough that you can do just enough to build bags, shields, and heals with minimal effort, and ignore the rest if you want (just sell the components you don't need). CoH's original concept of not having "gear" really really limited their options. Having only ten slots to hold anything makes each drop more valuable relatively speaking. And so I feel bad just selling something that might be useful, but don't really feel like fighting through the unnecessarily complex crafting system in that game.


I guess the comparison is that in CO, you get lots of drops and gear and the crafting components are plentiful enough, and provide relatively minimal advantages over what you get in normal drops, that you don't feel like you have to sweat over each and every drop. CoH is the opposite. Very few slots, very few drops, and with crafted stuff giving you unique abilities you can't get any other way makes you feel like you're missing out on something if you don't expend the effort.

CO's PvP in theory is "better" in that it's easy to access and costs you nothing one way or the other to participate in (but there are rewards). It's actually pretty darn fun for the first 29 levels too! Once you get into the last 10 levels though, you run into hordes of hard core PvPers who have optimized their characters for PvP and you just get toasted constantly. In CoH, at least characters that are reasonably well built for PvE will perform reasonably well in PvP (usually). In CO, many of the power combinations that are virtually unstoppable in PvP are utterly useless against NPC opponents (at least you'd never take that combination of holds, single target attacks, interrupts, and travel inhibitors, and expect to do well). So there is that. But it's not like PvP in CoH is great either...


Dunno. I really like CoH. I just got bored with it. I don't play CO that much either, but when I bought it, I just paid the extra for the lifetime membership, so I don't have to worry about whether I want to renew or not. I can not play for 6 months at a time and then fire it up and play as I feel. I wish CoH had that option. I'd take it for the same reason. I get bored of playing the same game over and over for a long period of time, but it always feels like if you're paying for a subscription, you ought to play, or you're wasting you money. Don't like it. Not one bit!

Sometimes I think about coming back, Joph. I know you want to kill me again. Didn't you change servers though?

Oh, and CO... ugh. I got into the beta, downloaded it and started it and didn't get much past character creation. Those graphics were horrible. Even Noah (who was 7 at the time and wouldn't know a good graphic if it bit his ***) didn't like it, haha.

I'm not completely flighty! I've been with EQ2 for 1.5 years now with no break! Ha!

Getting a little burnt out though. I still play but meh... kinda waiting around for Velious to come out.

Who knows, I might just get a bee in my bonnet and download the game again. Of course, it'll take 2 days to DL...

Huh. Well, different strokes and all that. I put basically zero effort into crafting and selling and still manage to have full sets, a set of purples on my Controller, and all that jazz. That said, I also have a Defender whose enhancements look like I dropped her into a bag of ****** SOs and Generic IOs and shook it hard and she still plays just fine. Solos well (a defender even!), goes on task forces, fights giant monsters, etc. I really should clean her up just out of pride but it hasn't crippled my game play.

But then I've seen people on the forums who swear never to touch the market or any crafted enhancements and only use SOs. I can't understand it since even generic IOs at the mid-levels beat level 50 SOs, but it takes all sorts, I guess.