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#1 Jul 15 2010 at 7:23 PM Rating: Decent
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How will this affect the gaming market? How will this affect TERA? How will this affect people like us that have already dedicated ourselves to purchase and play TERA?

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From the Entertainment Consumers Association (ECA):

The Supreme Court of the United States has agreed to hear the State ofCalifornia’s infamous ‘violent video game case,’ Schwarzenegger v. EMA. That means that this year, or early next, the Court is going to decide whether to agree with the lower federal courts or not. Agreeing would mean that they believe that video games are, and should continue to be, First Amendment protected speech; just like books, movies and music. The court disagreeing would mean that they think video games should be treated differently. This could lead to new bills and laws curtailing video game access in states across the country.

It is no exaggeration to state that their hearing represents the single most important moment for gamers, and the pivotal issue for gaming, in the sector’s history.

Over this summer, we’ll be drafting and formally submitting our amicus brief, which will be included with the other official court documents related to the case. Separately, we will also attach a petition signed by you, the American public, which –by its very existence – will publicly define who the consumers of interactive entertainment are and why we care enough about the issue to take the time to make the effort to speak up and make our voices heard. The petition establishes an authoritative collective position which cannot be redefined by detractors nor co-opted by others. And it enshrines each and every signatory’s participation in the court documents and in the U.S. National Archives’ official records related to the case.

If you’re an American gamer, and you care about gaming and your rights, stand up and be counted; sign the petition today!


http://action.theeca.com/p/dia/action/public/?action_KEY=1781

My personal opinion on the matter is that it is completely ridiculous.

America is supposed to be a free country. Video games hardly make people violent - people make other people violent. An example would be people with disturbed childhoods who never sought help and/or people who have experienced or witnessed severe trauma(s), especially in their childhood or teen life. Moreover, those who have never been able to voice what they have seen or experienced are more apt to become violent by example or frustration.

Then there are those who are naturally prone to violence despite their upbringing, things they have seen or experienced. It is human nature to be violent. There are simply some people who have no conscience and commit unspeakable acts.

Neither the California nor US Government has the right to limit access to video games; there is already a rating system on video games. Parents should be smart enough to limit their children's access to adult content in video games if it's really such an issue. America, Land of the Lazy? Come on now.

If a law as frivolous as this is passed regulating access to video games, what next? It would be yet a step closer toward becoming a dictatorship or communist country.

To the California & US Government; Focus on something that actually affects the world, instead of frivolous topics, why don't you? There are plenty of issues to focus on that actually matter.
#2 Jul 18 2010 at 6:42 PM Rating: Decent
Violent games are not the problem to unwarranted violent acts in RL...
Unwarranted violent acts in RL however is the problem retaled to "unwarranted violent acts in RL"
The two should not be confused even though there will always be one person pointing a finger of blame at the other from here to eternity.

For the parent who has taught their kid to think before they act and own what they do that still have a kid/kids doing "really stupid ****" are the ones who need to change something with their parenting(along with parents who do nothing at all in regards)
ESPECIALLY the ones who are trying to pass the blame off to other elements of life that are not even capable of making a conscience decision. An err in an individuals judgment can only be sourced to an err in an individuals decision making process. Any flaws in this process can only be attached to a "parental teaching method" and/or "medical/chemistry complication".

Any attempts to seek a resolve with this issue that doesn't pertain solely in addressing the ability to make safe/wise decisions as an individual have a 0 chance of ever being based or existing in reality.
The one thing that can be achieved by attaching blame to a video game is a false sense of blame/blamelessness..IE a distorted sense of reality.
#3 Jul 18 2010 at 10:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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One argument that I've heard is that not having media and games as an outlet for these things will actually make things worse. I wonder how true that is.
#4 Jul 18 2010 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
It shouldn't matter if the decision making process that leads to any action is safe and productive.
#5 Jul 18 2010 at 10:54 PM Rating: Excellent
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Unfortunately humans often have flawed or inconsistent thinking due to psychology, mood, emotions, ups and downs, etc. I've heard it suggested that having "safe" outlets actually reduces whatever build up that makes it more likely for people to fall into making poor decisions with major consequences, statistically.
#6 Jul 18 2010 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
I have heard this as well but the reality resides in...
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Unfortunately humans often have flawed or inconsistent thinking due to psychology, mood, emotions, ups and downs

as the root of the problem. Leaving any alternative "outlet" as a temporary measure/fix as it would only distract one from a flawed thinking or emotional process for that period of interaction.
Not necessarily a "bad thing" per say but the bikes not gonna roll right if the back tire is flat and you only air the front.
#7 Jul 19 2010 at 1:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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But is it anywhere close to practical to "fix" everyone's thinking process at all times?

Probably not within our lifetimes, which is why there is some practical consideration to outlets.
#8 Jul 19 2010 at 1:30 AM Rating: Decent
It's gotta start sometime, somewhere :P

Why not start here and now? before more freedoms are taken away for the wrong reasons or more laws that get passed based on a false premise.

Edited, Jul 19th 2010 5:24am by Godbone
#9 Jul 19 2010 at 8:40 AM Rating: Excellent
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You can always start, but I don't see the reason to not do both. Generally people who are aware and realize they have control over themselves can learn, people who cannot, can take advantage of outlets until they come to the self-realization and actualization phase.
#10 Jul 19 2010 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
Sounds good, esp since we can't control others anyway short of locking them in a tower or offering sound opinions and or advice.
#11 Jul 28 2010 at 10:17 PM Rating: Decent
So much of what effects our lives these days really has little to do with the topic at hand. It has become more and more exceptable to pass blame on a catalyst and completely disregard the root of the problem that personal accountability for anything is really and truly going down the drain.

Example. True story: I get a call from my son's school one day saying that he will have detention because he and another boy were ******** around in the hallway instead of getting back to class after bathroom break. Not only did i expect him to serve detention but I talked to his teacher about what sort of work he was expected to accomplish while serving his detention and if she didn't assign him any, I would. He needs to learn there are consequences for his actions, and how to make up for, and learn, from mistakes. This is how I feel, at least.

I get a call the next day from the other boys mother about how "unbelievably harsh I was being to my son" and that she found it "outrageous" that I wouldn't fight this, and I was somehow less of a mother because I "didn't have his back" Turns out she decided to use her pull as president of the pta to pull her son from detention and that she would take it to the courts if they pursued the matter further.

What are kids learning now a days with that sort of treatment??? They feel invisible. They feel they don't have to be accountable for their actions as long as they know how to debate and intimidate and use their "rights" to get them out of any blame. Parents don't feel that parenting means teaching values and responsibilities anymore. More and more people consider themselves bad parents if they don't treat their children as if they can do no wrong.

What does this lead to? It leads to bad things happening to naive people who never had a chance to learn how to take responsibility for their actions, who never learned cause and effect, and never really learned how to adjust to the real world, making them ill equipped to handle it once they encounter it. So they deal with it in the only way they've learned to by putting the blame elsewhere and, in the process, forcing those type of values on others.

There are, mostly likely, other factors at work. I blame parenting because I am one, and get to see it's working day in and day out so i get to see the problems it entails intimately close at hand. I talk about what I know, but this is not to say that what I know isn't true as well.

Edited, Jul 29th 2010 12:19am by Lawlyss
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