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#1 Jul 14 2010 at 4:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Ever wondered why even lacking players commonly think that they are actually amazing players? This article from the Journal of Personality and Social Psychology explains why with lots of sciency studies and such. I happen to agree with their findings and think they generally apply to the majority of people.

Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One’s Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments

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People tend to hold overly favorable views of their abilities in many social and intellectual domains. The authors suggest that this overestimation occurs, in part, because people who are unskilled in these domains suffer a dual burden: Not only do these people reach erroneous conclusions and make unfortunate choices, but their incompetence robs them of the metacognitive ability to realize it. Across 4 studies, the authors found that participants scoring in the bottom quartile on tests of humor, grammar, and logic grossly overestimated their test performance and ability. Although their test scores put them in the 12th percentile, they estimated themselves to be in the 62nd. Several analyses linked this miscalibration to deficits in metacognitive skill, or the capacity to distinguish accuracy from error. Paradoxically, improving the skills of participants, and thus increasing their metacognitive competence, helped them recognize the limitations of their abilities.
#2 Jul 23 2010 at 10:48 AM Rating: Decent
I do not suffer from this! *shakes head*
#3 Jul 23 2010 at 12:38 PM Rating: Excellent
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The scary part is that you could! The only way to be certain is with comparative metrics and rankings!
#4 Jul 23 2010 at 12:50 PM Rating: Decent
Piratess mentioned me as being good once. I'll take her word for it ..forever.
#5 Jul 23 2010 at 2:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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She might not know what is good either! But at least you can feel good about it.
#6 Jul 23 2010 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
I was kidding. I think I'm a little above average. I feel I'm accurate in that assessment because I'm a realist and I'm rational. I'm also analytical, and if I use my gaming experience over the past decades as indication, then just above average would be my likely overall assessment. I excel in certain games/genres and don't do so hot in others.

Bottom line up front; I'm not bad.

That article is interesting though, and does shed light on one of the biggest issues in the gaming world, which is far more noticeable in current gen MMO and FPS titles.
#7 Jul 23 2010 at 4:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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I was kidding too!

While that could in fact be an accurate self judging, not saying that it's not true for your case... but the funny thing about this whole concept is that most people also think they're above average and have significant enough realism and rational to properly make the call on it. This results in taking the meaning out of excelling in certain things. To avoid this entirely I pretty much never say I'm actually good at anything without ranking high or winning something.

But yes, it seems that the only practical solution is simply to educate people further and lower their sense of self worth.
#8 Jul 24 2010 at 6:41 AM Rating: Decent
Am I good? I don't know. I have always considered my self average. I have my moments of awesomeness
and of course my moment of baddieness. Simple as that.
Now if i enjoy the game a lot I spend time bettering myself.
But all around I average maybe slightly better at times.
#9 Jul 24 2010 at 12:23 PM Rating: Decent
Unfortunately with rankings in "most" games means "who has/had the better hack programs" or "who padded their invin early by buying gold then buying top gear"

IMHO one who is good in an MMO or a team play game is one who are not only good but who can elevate the gameplay of others around them, these types will more often than not be good solo as well.
#10 Jul 24 2010 at 2:21 PM Rating: Excellent
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That's one reason of why I'm not a fan of poorly moderated games where there is a lack of active punishments of cheaters or heavily gear dependent games that benefit from RMT. I've always preferred games that put the most emphasis on personal and team skill.

On that note, another post I made dealt with how I feel how people who actively challenge themselves and others constantly to raise the bar of play constantly on every front and regardless of side end up being truly good.
#11 Jul 26 2010 at 5:51 AM Rating: Good
I always assume bad players are bad because they're distracted by a naked parent dancing in their room. This makes me feel better about having to work with them, because they will be as scarred as I will be from our respective ordeals.
#12 Jul 26 2010 at 8:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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naked parent... how often does this happen? I wonder...
#13 Jul 26 2010 at 9:16 AM Rating: Good
Either too often or not often enough.
#14 Jul 28 2010 at 4:27 PM Rating: Excellent
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I think I'm a good player - not awesome but definitely not on the bottom of the pool. That said, so much of online competition can be hindered by poor connections / poor computer performance that sometimes the metrics don't justify how you felt you did in the game.

I know I was okay at Fury before that game fell on its face because I managed to climb to the top 30 or so people in the beta test... but I also knew that a lot of people simply couldn't handle the specs of that game.
#15 Jul 28 2010 at 6:21 PM Rating: Decent
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because I managed to climb to the top 30 or so people in the beta test


Ranking in alpha and beta stage??? those stages are meant for testing a game not competition ranking....most people in these stages are testing for bugs and balances.
(I would hope so anyway, because if they are just there to horse around I wish these people would not apply to anymore MMO test phases so we can get some better quality control going on)

If I were you I wouldn't try to evaluate yourself by means of a games player ranking from test phases.

Edited, Jul 28th 2010 8:22pm by Godbone
#16 Jul 28 2010 at 8:47 PM Rating: Decent
just based on experience I think that both the internet's ability to hide identity and also social interaction can play a major factor in this type of gaming personality.

Just as with forums, in a game there is the possibility of not feeling accountable for your actions resulting in reckless behavior and sometimes this all out unfounded ability to explain away or straight up lie about your skill, actions, and gameplay. It's just a name after all.

There is also sometimes lack of opportunity. Let's say you haven't come to a game with a group of friends or a guild, or your guild doesn't really strife for accomplishments or goals, or social interaction. Your encounters with others, or the right kind of people, may become sparse.

Unless you're the kind of person that automatically migrates to people with a mentality dictated by skill and improvement you may just never have occasion to realize there is a benchmark and you haven't met it yet. You may follow that aimless path too long to the point where you'll just out of nature assume there is nothing better out their to base your skill off of.

After slowly coming to this conclusion, without even realizing it, the ground kind of falls out from underneath you when you get all out stomped one night. Taking the situation in, based off of how ingrained your personal benchmark is, it would be alot easier to chalk it up to hacking, cheating, or unfair tactics than to actually admit you're bad, especially if the aforementioned unaccountability also comes into play.
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