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#177 Apr 05 2010 at 1:25 PM Rating: Good
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Yeah, I know. I guess the correct answer would have been "I did not like Sazh's character." To rephrase it:
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Sazh... I did not care for. He was made to be a bumbling oaf for most of the early scenes, especially as a counterpart to Lightning's cool demeanor and moves. What else can we really expect from Squeenix though, right? His face was constantly tightened up in worry lines (gloriously shown thanks to the amazing graphics), he complains too much, he tries and fails to kill not only Vanille, but himself as well. His only really redeeming characteristics/interactions were the Little Chocobo, which I enjoyed because it acted like his conscience; and his son, as with him that was the only time he showed any real emotion. But while the character of Hope, for example, grew and developed splendidly, Sazh stayed as a bumbling oaf used for comic relief in the 8 chapters I played. Perhaps in the next few chapters he develops, but I don't know. I wanted his character to be more like Barret in FFVII; a strong guy who could be used for comic relief without seeming like a limp-wrist pansy. Then again, I probably felt that way because the game starts out as an obvious comparison to FFVII: you're the brooding main character on a train with a black guy plotting to ***** with the government.

#178 Apr 06 2010 at 1:08 AM Rating: Good
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Vanille was my least favorite (OH GOD HER VOICE WHY WHY WHY!?!?!), but even she started to grow on me.

I don't know why people keep saying this. Her voice is by no means particularly pleasant, but it's also not really unpleasant either.
#179 Apr 06 2010 at 9:57 AM Rating: Decent
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I don't know why people keep saying this. Her voice is by no means particularly pleasant, but it's also not really unpleasant either



It's more the acting than the voice part of the "voice acting" that I dislike about her.

Edited, Apr 6th 2010 11:57am by feelz
#180 Apr 09 2010 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
Vanille's VA isn't that bad. I can't say she's a fantastic VA, but I've heard worse. Specifically Tidus and Yuna from FFX. Yuna's VA made some great improvements by the time X-2 came around though.

I upgraded my first weapon yesterday. I bought the strategy guide with the game and I've been turning to it when I'm having troubles with stuff. I don't know if the rest of you know this, but I figured it might to impart this knowledge. The most cost effective way to upgrade weapons is to take 36 of either sturdy bones, barbed tails, or vibrant oozes OR 24 of Otherworldly bones, Diabolic tails, or Transparent Oozes and use those first. This gives the weapon a triple exp bonus. Then you want to use one type of the mechanical components to upgrade the weapon all at once.

I spent about 90,000 gil to upgrade Lightning's Axis Blade to the maxed out level, and to also level up the Whistlewind Scarf (its max level is 2, so that didn't take much). The two items equipped together on her give her an extra ATB bar filled up each turn, plus an extra 10% ATB speed. I haven't tried this out with haste added to the picture, but I'm sure it'll be awesome. I did this at the start of Chapter 10. I spent a little extra time farming CP and the different chips in Chapter 9 and ended up having about 120k gil at the start of Chapter 10.

Edited, Apr 9th 2010 2:57pm by PigtailsOfDoom
#181 Apr 09 2010 at 3:24 PM Rating: Good
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I leveled up the Whistlewind Scarf to the next item, can't remember it's name, but it gives first strike (full ATB at the beginning of battle). Put that on two of my characters.

This weekend I plan on getting into the game again, hopefully finish Chapter 12 (but I still need to grind out a ton of CP to make this damn chapter a bit easier).
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#182 Apr 09 2010 at 10:27 PM Rating: Good
I can't believe I didn't realize how ridiculous starting a fight with sab+syn is. I can kill things in 1/5 the time using them.

also- finally beat the game, thought I was going to have to give up on last boss 2nd form until I figured out the trick, after that it was cake. Currently trying to grab a couple low hanging achievements (max 1 of each job) before I lend 360 to friend to play.
#183 Apr 10 2010 at 12:43 PM Rating: Good
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I have a fully upgraded ultima weapon (from Lionheart), just waiting for the million gil and the shop to carry the right catalyst for upgrading to Omega Weapon. Even with that though, it's not like a Zodiac Spear if you catch my meaning, it's not a game changer.


There is a better way to farm trapezohedrons.

Step 1) Death farm Adamantortoises (the really giant things) expect to take a while killing them and it's a really rare drop. Their other drop is platinum ingots worth 150K so totally worth farming anyways/
Step 2) Upgrade Vanilles healing staff to max level third tier with that trapezohedron
Step 3)Dismantle that nirvana into three trapezohedrons and repeat again. Congrats you just saved 12 million gil on buying one ultimate weapon for each character.

Have you actually gotten one to drop from those things? I've gotten pretty good about farming them but I've yet to see it drop one. Ingots and 80k exp (with that thing that doubles exp) are nice but I'm really starting to wonder if it drops the trapezohedrons. Catalogs don't seem to help much either. Well, I guess I do start to get more shrouds but it's all pretty random.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2010 12:34pm by MrTalos


I have gotten three now. Kind of worthless after I got my first 6 but hey what ever. Level up some Collector's Catalogues into Connoisseurs Catalogues. They increase the drop rate of rare drops. 5 star rating also increases rare drop chances by 5x from what I was reading in my friends guide. The Trap. is only a 1% drop rate so it's kind of hit and miss. At this point I am kind of bored with the grinding out money so I just kill one adamantoise every day after class and quit. Finished a Nirvana from the healing staff and a Omega Weapon from Lion Heart.
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#184 Apr 13 2010 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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MrTalos wrote:
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I have a fully upgraded ultima weapon (from Lionheart), just waiting for the million gil and the shop to carry the right catalyst for upgrading to Omega Weapon. Even with that though, it's not like a Zodiac Spear if you catch my meaning, it's not a game changer.


There is a better way to farm trapezohedrons.

Step 1) Death farm Adamantortoises (the really giant things) expect to take a while killing them and it's a really rare drop. Their other drop is platinum ingots worth 150K so totally worth farming anyways/
Step 2) Upgrade Vanilles healing staff to max level third tier with that trapezohedron
Step 3)Dismantle that nirvana into three trapezohedrons and repeat again. Congrats you just saved 12 million gil on buying one ultimate weapon for each character.

Have you actually gotten one to drop from those things? I've gotten pretty good about farming them but I've yet to see it drop one. Ingots and 80k exp (with that thing that doubles exp) are nice but I'm really starting to wonder if it drops the trapezohedrons. Catalogs don't seem to help much either. Well, I guess I do start to get more shrouds but it's all pretty random.

Edited, Apr 2nd 2010 12:34pm by MrTalos


I have gotten three now. Kind of worthless after I got my first 6 but hey what ever. Level up some Collector's Catalogues into Connoisseurs Catalogues. They increase the drop rate of rare drops. 5 star rating also increases rare drop chances by 5x from what I was reading in my friends guide. The Trap. is only a 1% drop rate so it's kind of hit and miss. At this point I am kind of bored with the grinding out money so I just kill one adamantoise every day after class and quit. Finished a Nirvana from the healing staff and a Omega Weapon from Lion Heart.


I still haven't gotten one so I ended up taking a break. Maybe I'll just kill one a day for a while and maybe start to enjoy playing again rather than just spending hours a day killing those blasted things. Find the thing that annoys me the most is having to run around fighting crap to get enough TP to do the trick again.
#185 Apr 14 2010 at 7:22 AM Rating: Good
Tonberry>Really cool looking C'ieth boss Funniest Cutscene of the entire game right there nearly died of asphyxiation from the fit of laughter that ensued.
#186 Apr 16 2010 at 4:17 PM Rating: Good
Got a trapezohedron drop my first real turtle kill after I beat game, farmed enough money off sacrifices to do the full upgrade miz-> deassemble-> 3x trapezohedron trick, but can't decide who to upgrade fully next and I'm tired of farming gil for other upgrade mats.
#187 Apr 18 2010 at 9:22 AM Rating: Good
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Professor shintasama wrote:
Got a trapezohedron drop my first real turtle kill after I beat game, farmed enough money off sacrifices to do the full upgrade miz-> deassemble-> 3x trapezohedron trick, but can't decide who to upgrade fully next and I'm tired of farming gil for other upgrade mats.


Indeed. The grind in FFXIII sucks. It's not like other games where you grind for the little tidbits of story that the sidequests and optional bosses reveal about the world you're in, your motivation is that achievement or that trophy that is it. It is wholly unrewarding. I still kill the occasional Adamantortoise in hopes of some platinum ingots but have largely switched to playing my long neglected Disgaea 3.
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#188 Apr 21 2010 at 9:01 PM Rating: Good
Finals aren't too far off, I plan on taking a couple of weeks to finally beat this game and start upgrading weapons and crystariums. However, until then, my PS3 isn't even plugged in at the moment Smiley: frown
#189 Apr 21 2010 at 10:03 PM Rating: Good
In one of those "you're all going to hate me" moments:

As soon as I got Death unlocked (and had a mostly-upgraded Malboro Wand), I started the whole "Death spam to giant turtle" trick. (This was actually back in chapter 11 - I beat Barthandelus, then headed back out to the Steppe.)

First turtle dropped a Trapezohedron.

Second turtle dropped an ingot.
#190 Apr 21 2010 at 10:07 PM Rating: Good
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I would hate you, if I actually cared about FF13 anymore.

I beat the "main" story, not that the missions offer any more story.. they're just "Defeat X at this place Y for me."

I dunno. I'm probably just going to trade it in, not feeling like completing the missions at all.
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#191 Apr 22 2010 at 2:12 AM Rating: Good
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In one of those "you're all going to hate me" moments:

As soon as I got Death unlocked (and had a mostly-upgraded Malboro Wand), I started the whole "Death spam to giant turtle" trick. (This was actually back in chapter 11 - I beat Barthandelus, then headed back out to the Steppe.)

First turtle dropped a Trapezohedron.

Second turtle dropped an ingot.


lol, nice! I don't hate you, but that's probably because I haven't beaten the story yet and haven't tried the Death-turtle trick yet. I tried it on one of the guys in Ch. 12, but my party ended up getting killed like three times before I gave up on it. This was with Vanille as the PL, and using a sentinel and medic to help keep her alive while I had her cast death over and over. I checked to make sure these particular turtles weren't immune to death (and they aren't), so I'm not quite sure why it wouldn't work. Anyone know if the trick works on those turtles, or just the ones on Pulse?
#192 Apr 22 2010 at 4:29 PM Rating: Good
I just can't get myself to pick this game back up right now. I feel like I have too far to grind, and if I wanted that I'd hit up XI.
#193 Apr 22 2010 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
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PigtailsOfDoom the Eccentric wrote:
MDenham wrote:
In one of those "you're all going to hate me" moments:

As soon as I got Death unlocked (and had a mostly-upgraded Malboro Wand), I started the whole "Death spam to giant turtle" trick. (This was actually back in chapter 11 - I beat Barthandelus, then headed back out to the Steppe.)

First turtle dropped a Trapezohedron.

Second turtle dropped an ingot.


lol, nice! I don't hate you, but that's probably because I haven't beaten the story yet and haven't tried the Death-turtle trick yet. I tried it on one of the guys in Ch. 12, but my party ended up getting killed like three times before I gave up on it. This was with Vanille as the PL, and using a sentinel and medic to help keep her alive while I had her cast death over and over. I checked to make sure these particular turtles weren't immune to death (and they aren't), so I'm not quite sure why it wouldn't work. Anyone know if the trick works on those turtles, or just the ones on Pulse?
The first time I got it to work was on the full sized adamantoise in chapter 12 right outside that building (optional fight, unlike the baby adamantoise fight that is much easier and part of a cutscene). It just takes a lot of luck. I actually didn't succeed until it stood back up and was about to stomp and ravage us all.
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#194 Apr 23 2010 at 8:05 PM Rating: Good
Hmm, well that's good to hear. I suppose I could always try again. I could use some CP grinding anyways, even though it's not the most appealing thing in the world.
#195 Apr 23 2010 at 8:11 PM Rating: Good
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Ever since I upgraded Vanille's debuffing staff to debuffing II, and you set another person to SAB and stack as many debuffs as you can, Death has been working very well. Unfortunately the drops are not working will. So far only two ingots, nothing else :( I also put a SYN in the fight for Haste, more Death casts.
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#196 Apr 29 2010 at 11:17 PM Rating: Good
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If you guys want a good way of capping your crystarium here it is.

First get the growth egg from the non Titan's Challenge Neochu hunt.

In Mahabara there is a hallway just past the Juggernaut platform with 3 Cyclohedron at one end and 3 Rusty Flan / 1 Cyclohedron fighting at the other

Cerberus Paradign(Com, Com, Com): Snow, Light, Fang

Aurora Scarf is the only needed gear if you're high enough level

Preemptive Strikes slow down XP since the fights only take 2-4 seconds each.

3x Cyclohedron gives 7.1k with Egg
1x Cyclohedron / 3x Rusty Flan gives 11.2k with Egg

Each fight is respawned by the time you finish running to the other one.
#197 May 11 2010 at 11:32 PM Rating: Decent
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Welp I knew it would happen. I am about to the point of saying F-it and throwing it on ebay. Read where people were having trouble on Chapter 9 and really I didn't run anything anything there. I can sum up my hate with a 3 letter word that almost every FF game has. CID.

This is the most BS battle ever. I would rather fight a Restoration Druid with 20 Tenacity (which is what this guy feels like) then do this battle. Guy heals himself, buffs himself and by the time you remove hits buffs he just does it all again. Can't keep the group healed at all once he gets those buffs and starts to attack. Even went out and did some EXP grinding which kinda sucks on this game the way the battles are laid out.

Anyways we all saw it coming so here it is. Game is still better then FF12.
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#198 May 12 2010 at 1:09 AM Rating: Good
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Welp I knew it would happen. I am about to the point of saying F-it and throwing it on ebay. Read where people were having trouble on Chapter 9 and really I didn't run anything anything there. I can sum up my hate with a 3 letter word that almost every FF game has. CID.

This is the most BS battle ever. I would rather fight a Restoration Druid with 20 Tenacity (which is what this guy feels like) then do this battle. Guy heals himself, buffs himself and by the time you remove hits buffs he just does it all again. Can't keep the group healed at all once he gets those buffs and starts to attack. Even went out and did some EXP grinding which kinda sucks on this game the way the battles are laid out.

Anyways we all saw it coming so here it is. Game is still better then FF12.
Party of choice for this is, in one of those "what the hell were the people making the guide thinking" moments, actually Fang, Vanille, and Hope (no Lightning).

You'll need Espionage (SABx2 + SYN), Combat Clinic (SEN + MEDx2), Relentless Assault (COM + RAVx2), and one of Bully (COM + SAB + SYN) or Guerilla (RAV + SAB + SYN). Start in Espionage.

You'll run through the following cycle:

* While he's healing himself, whichever one of Bully or Guerilla you chose to use. If you have both, start in Bully and swap to Guerilla at about 110-115% chain.
* Immediately after every attack that puts anyone in the red, Combat Clinic for long enough to get people into the yellow, then Relentless Assault.
* If he's buffing himself, Espionage (since he'll just erase the debuffs instead).
* When he's defending, just pound at him anyway. If debuffs (or, more likely, your own buffs) wear during this for any reason, Bully is probably good here.

If you're so inclined, you can throw in Assassination (RAV + SABx2), Matador (SEN + RAV + SAB), or Riot Shield (SEN + RAV + SYN) in your remaining slot or two for additional safety and entertainment.

It's not that hard of a fight, but it took me a couple of tries to realize that the guide was just flat-out wrong on its strategy for this fight.
#199 May 12 2010 at 3:32 AM Rating: Decent
Sad to say I do not own a ps3. I used to play on my ex's a long time ago. My Xbox 360 broke for the 3rd time and the warranty ran out. My Ex knew a lot about fixing things like he could fix most anything. He said the xbox 360 is poorly made. I can't argue there.

Anyway, so I do no not have a game system to play FF XIII on. It would of been cool if it came out for let's say pc, or ps 2. Those are the gaming systems I have, but if I were rich, or had a sugar daddy I would own a ps3 and Xbox 360.

I did see the game play on youtube for FF XIII, but from what I seen I would still rather play FF X, FF XI and FF XII and I enjoy playing FF XII, though true most of it is easy to play, it's fun and I love the CS. I enjoy the story line to. Just my opinion here but nothing comes close to FF XI and I have played many video games. Wow is ok, but I still found myself wanting to play FF XI.

So you all enjoy FF XIII for me, as I will be playing FF XI for the rest of my life. Or until something weird happens, and something goes wrong with my computer again.



Edited, May 12th 2010 5:34am by pettygil
#200 May 12 2010 at 4:51 AM Rating: Good
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Sad to say I do not own a ps3. I used to play on my ex's a long time ago. My Xbox 360 broke for the 3rd time and the warranty ran out. My Ex knew a lot about fixing things like he could fix most anything. He said the xbox 360 is poorly made. I can't argue there.

Anyway, so I do no not have a game system to play FF XIII on. It would of been cool if it came out for let's say pc, or ps 2. Those are the gaming systems I have, but if I were rich, or had a sugar daddy I would own a ps3 and Xbox 360.

I did see the game play on youtube for FF XIII, but from what I seen I would still rather play FF X, FF XI and FF XII and I enjoy playing FF XII, though true most of it is easy to play, it's fun and I love the CS. I enjoy the story line to. Just my opinion here but nothing comes close to FF XI and I have played many video games. Wow is ok, but I still found myself wanting to play FF XI.

So you all enjoy FF XIII for me, as I will be playing FF XI for the rest of my life. Or until something weird happens, and something goes wrong with my computer again.


I have a feeling something weird is happening.

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#201 May 13 2010 at 3:11 AM Rating: Good
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Welp I knew it would happen. I am about to the point of saying F-it and throwing it on ebay. Read where people were having trouble on Chapter 9 and really I didn't run anything anything there. I can sum up my hate with a 3 letter word that almost every FF game has. CID.

This is the most BS battle ever. I would rather fight a Restoration Druid with 20 Tenacity (which is what this guy feels like) then do this battle. Guy heals himself, buffs himself and by the time you remove hits buffs he just does it all again. Can't keep the group healed at all once he gets those buffs and starts to attack. Even went out and did some EXP grinding which kinda sucks on this game the way the battles are laid out.

Anyways we all saw it coming so here it is. Game is still better then FF12.
Party of choice for this is, in one of those "what the hell were the people making the guide thinking" moments, actually Fang, Vanille, and Hope (no Lightning).

You'll need Espionage (SABx2 + SYN), Combat Clinic (SEN + MEDx2), Relentless Assault (COM + RAVx2), and one of Bully (COM + SAB + SYN) or Guerilla (RAV + SAB + SYN). Start in Espionage.

You'll run through the following cycle:

* While he's healing himself, whichever one of Bully or Guerilla you chose to use. If you have both, start in Bully and swap to Guerilla at about 110-115% chain.
* Immediately after every attack that puts anyone in the red, Combat Clinic for long enough to get people into the yellow, then Relentless Assault.
* If he's buffing himself, Espionage (since he'll just erase the debuffs instead).
* When he's defending, just pound at him anyway. If debuffs (or, more likely, your own buffs) wear during this for any reason, Bully is probably good here.

If you're so inclined, you can throw in Assassination (RAV + SABx2), Matador (SEN + RAV + SAB), or Riot Shield (SEN + RAV + SYN) in your remaining slot or two for additional safety and entertainment.

It's not that hard of a fight, but it took me a couple of tries to realize that the guide was just flat-out wrong on its strategy for this fight.


I followed the guide's suggestion and it took me two tries to success. I even got a 5 star rating on the second try. It is a bit tricky, but yeah it's not that hard of a fight.
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