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#1 Jun 03 2009 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Despite ages of calling it one of the worst Final Fantasy games, I can't stop playing it. I hate the battle system, I hate the voiceovers, I hate the whole liscence system thing. In fact, I can't really think of anything good to say about it...but I can't stop playing it.

Thank you SquareEnix for releasing the video game equivalent of oxycontin(I could have said cocaine, but while I very rarely indulge in that ****, I much prefer it to the addictive yet undesirable ******** that is oxycontin).

So when does the game stop sucking, and when does the addictive qualities of said sucking go away?
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#2 Jun 03 2009 at 4:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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It never stops sucking. The storyline is probably one of the worst since the original game. I personally liked the flow of gameplay action, and I agree that some of aspects were addicting (hunting monsters and rare chest spawns and whatnot). However, I played through it once and never wanted to replay it.
#3 Jun 03 2009 at 6:55 AM Rating: Good
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However, I played through it once and never wanted to replay it.


Same. And I did the "fast" version I guess.
I only had a few of the Ispers..and I'm pretty sure I saw the credits after about 12hs of play. The story is quite short. I assume the rest of the game is in the marks/isper/hunting.
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#4 Jun 03 2009 at 10:11 AM Rating: Decent
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However, I played through it once and never wanted to replay it.


Same. And I did the "fast" version I guess.
I only had a few of the Ispers..and I'm pretty sure I saw the credits after about 12hs of play. The story is quite short. I assume the rest of the game is in the marks/isper/hunting.


Oh yes, quite a lot of hunting and basically grinding to be prepared to take down the marks. Lots and lots of grinding.
#5 Jun 03 2009 at 10:32 AM Rating: Decent
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Well might as well beat the dead horse so to speak. I hated everything about this game and it just wouldn't be a Final Fantasy 12 thread if I didn't get a good ***** in about it. I couldn't stand the gameplay, story sucked and the characters where just dumb. The only thing I liked about it was no random battles. I found trash fights to be so insanely easy that I could literally lay the controller down and come back and find trash dead. Boss fights you had to have just the right gambit set up or be 100% on your game to get through them.

I got about 12 hours into the game and the giant bird at the sand temple was the final straw for me.

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#6 Jun 03 2009 at 2:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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When you can play the game by putting a rubber band around the joysticks and leaving the console on for 3 DAYS, then come back to being level 99 with an enormous fortune of gil, there's a problem.

Edit: But on that note, I did enjoy playing the game with as few gambits and as low of a level as I could. Gilgamesh at level 48 was insane.. And over an hour long.

Edited, Jun 3rd 2009 5:33pm by Ehcks
#7 Jun 03 2009 at 7:31 PM Rating: Good
Well, at least XIV looks good.

...Right?

......Right?
#8 Jun 04 2009 at 2:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Well, at least XIV looks good.

...Right?

......Right?


Nope, not really. Considering all we have to work with is a 90 second video that shows no actual game play, I'm going to have to go right ahead and say we have no reference whatsoever to say it looks good or bad.

As to XII, my god did that game suck. It's the only FF game that I've played and not finished. I just couldn't put myself through it anymore. Horribly boring combat, constant grinding, lame story, idiotic characters, not to mention the first ten zones or so are all mostly featureless deserts. I honestly have nothing good to say about that game at all.
#9 Jun 04 2009 at 3:26 AM Rating: Decent
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When you can play the game by putting a rubber band around the joysticks and leaving the console on for 3 DAYS, then come back to being level 99 with an enormous fortune of gil, there's a problem.


If you're choosing to abuse the gambit system, then the problem lies entirely with you.
#10 Jun 04 2009 at 4:55 AM Rating: Good
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IDrownFish wrote:
Well, at least XIV looks good.

...Right?

......Right?


Nope, not really. Considering all we have to work with is a 90 second video that shows no actual game play, I'm going to have to go right ahead and say we have no reference whatsoever to say it looks good or bad.

As to XII, my god did that game suck. It's the only FF game that I've played and not finished. I just couldn't put myself through it anymore. Horribly boring combat, constant grinding, lame story, idiotic characters, not to mention the first ten zones or so are all mostly featureless deserts. I honestly have nothing good to say about that game at all.


The water was pretty, if that counts for anything.
#11 Jun 04 2009 at 8:32 AM Rating: Decent
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There is a new (well newish) trailor for Final Fantasy XIII out that shows some of the gameplay. I looks like it is going back to the turn based that alot of previous games use.

Far as Final Fantasy XIV goes I never got into 11 so who knows.
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#12 Jun 10 2009 at 6:30 AM Rating: Good
I liked it Smiley: smile I replay all of them regularly Smiley: thumbsup
#13 Jun 21 2009 at 9:33 PM Rating: Decent
Personally, I did not like this game too much either. I finished the actual story line part of the game, but never bothered to finish doing all the "extras". Considering people were on FFXI at the time hardcore, I don't think many people, including myself, wanted to sit there for 2 or 3 hours fighting a damn Mob in FFXII when I just logged off POL.

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#16 Jun 24 2009 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
Got a friend over in Canada that just picked up this game yesterday for no reason (I guess boredom) and started playing it again. Not only has he been on it all day, going nuts about how he doesn't remember any of the game, he's getting just as pissed as he did the first time he played it.


Why..? We'll never know.
#17 Jun 26 2009 at 6:52 PM Rating: Excellent
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Its Final Fantasy. The title alone causes a childlike hypnotic trance that, no matter HOW HORRIBLE the game is, you have to play it. I know 13 will be horrible. I know it. That has been the trend of the games. I also know I'll play it. That's just the nature of the beast.
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#18 Jun 30 2009 at 5:45 AM Rating: Decent
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I've given up on 12. It's too...irritatingly, frustratingy, eye-gougingly, ear-bleedingly bad.


The gameplay sucks

The battle system sucks

The voiceovers are absolutely terrible

the graphics are unimpressive

the story takes way too long to get into full swing
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#19 Jun 30 2009 at 6:13 AM Rating: Decent
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the story takes way too long to get into full swing


Really? I thought it started with strong character progression and immediate conflict and quit trying about halfway through the game.
#20 Jun 30 2009 at 10:02 AM Rating: Good
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the story takes way too long to get into full swing


Really? I thought it started with strong character progression and immediate conflict and quit trying about halfway through the game.


I somewhat agree with this... but IMO the story never becomes interesting and the characters never really progress. By the end I'm still left wondering why the hell Vaan is with this group... or better yet, why they keep him around. And why the heck Penelo comes along? Seriously? There is NO point. I feel like better and more important people are babysitting 1/3 of my party.

Edit: Reading on wikipedia about the reception and scores it has received, it seems like this is one of the best games in the series. I feel a lot of fans disagree with the critics, however.

Edited, Jun 30th 2009 2:12pm by LockeColeMA
#21 Jun 30 2009 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
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By the end I'm still left wondering why the hell Vaan is with this group... or better yet, why they keep him around. And why the heck Penelo comes along? Seriously? There is NO point


To set up for the infinitely better Revenant Wings game on the DS, which has actual character development, motivation, dialogue, and proximately pertinent story.
#22 Jul 03 2009 at 11:36 PM Rating: Decent
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Driftwood's Game Reviews #4(first one since 2007): Impromptu review of Final Fantasy 12


Gameplay(on a scale of 1-10): 3

To not have full control of your party worked well for Secret Of Mana, Secret Of Evermore, etc. But it has no place in a series of games that has always been turn based. The problem FInal Fantasy has always had is that the makers seem unwilling to take perfectly good systems from other FF games and integrate them into newer games along with new ideas and new systems. I think Final Fantasy 12 could have been great if it was the same, but instead of these Real Time, uncontrolled battles, the map would segway into an actual battle whenever you ran into a monster, say, like Chrono Trigger. Then you'd have control of your party, and each of them would have their different skills attached, different weapons, etc. If they wanted to be especially good to us with the battles, they could even steal the idea of hitting a certain button to make the attack stronger from Final Fantasy 8. Then, they could bring back LIMIT BREAKS. Then, they could keep the levelling system, but make it better by integrating both the currently flawed lisence system and FFX's Sphere Grid to make something unbelievably amazing.

But no, they wanted this game to be Final Fantasy 11(which is undeserving of a number): Offline.

Story: 5

It's less than amazing, but not exactly bad. It doesn;t really grab you, but it doesn't make you turn away in disgust. It's a completely average story. There';s not much I can say about it.

Voiceovers: 0

Hey Square-Enix, remember when you teamed up with Disney for KH1 and used real actors/singers(in the case of Mandy Moore as Aeris and Lance ******* Bass as Sephiroth) for voice acting, and it was amazing? Yeah, do that again. Stop trying to cut costs and give us a real ******* game.

Graphics: 7

I don;t know why everyone seemed to think that the graphics were so amazing, I've seen far better graphics in far better games for lesser consoles. The graphics were good, don't get me wrong,but they weren't as good as people said they were.

Endgame: No Clue, couldn't torture myself for that long.

Overall: 5/10

A completely mediocre game. Why not bring back the people you had working on say, FF6-9. Using new technology and **** doesn't make something good. I mean, take a look at Lunar. Focus on gameplay and storytelling. In the end, this just seems to be something that Square-Enix put out to try and keep the people who thought that FFXI was stupid(which it is) from giving up on the series altogether. It seems rushed, uninspired, and has turned out to be almost as bad as X-2.


Anyway, is it true that XIV is going to be online? That's just what someone told me.
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I've always read Driftwood as the straight man in varus' double act. It helps if you read all of his posts in the voice of Droopy Dog.
#23 Jul 05 2009 at 6:07 PM Rating: Decent
I actually rather like the story line, but I completely agree with the complaints on the battle system. It's just way too easy, and I definitely miss the limit breaks of previous games. The VA's were okay, but definitely not great, although I did like all the different accents.

I suppose that political conspiracies isn't anything new for RPG plot lines, but really, every RPG has the same plot: some random lower class guy is charged with saving the world/universe from some ultimate evil. 95% of the time, insert love story with leading lady as subplot. That's one thing that I thought was rather unique about FFXII, there's not really a love story. Granted I haven't quite beaten the game yet (I'm in the second to last area) so I could be wrong, but I'd think if they were going to put a love story in there they would have done it by now.
#24 Jul 07 2009 at 10:41 AM Rating: Decent
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As to XII, my god did that game suck. It's the only FF game that I've played and not finished. I just couldn't put myself through it anymore.

This is me with X-2.
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Anyway, is it true that XIV is going to be online? That's just what someone told me.

yes.
#25 Jul 07 2009 at 12:45 PM Rating: Default
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I am now boycotting Square-Enix.

******* idiots...another online Final Fantasy...
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#26 Jul 07 2009 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
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I am now boycotting Square-Enix.

@#%^ing idiots...another online Final Fantasy...


what? finished with XIII already? Stop being so egotistical as to think that every game they make has to cater to your wants.
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