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#1 Mar 31 2012 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
I was just wondering when Shattrath began to be built. And by who? Was it an effort between the Naaru and Draenei as well? Or like Tempest Keep, was Shattrath made purely by the Naaru (Sha'tar)? Also, at what time did construction on the Black Temple begin, and was it done before or after Shattrath? All I keep coming to is that the Draenei arrived on Draenor (Outland) in Nagrand via the Oshu'gun due to K'ure's (a Naaru) declining health.

Edited, Mar 31st 2012 9:48pm by xxarbatelxx
#2 Mar 31 2012 at 7:56 PM Rating: Excellent
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http://www.wowpedia.org/Shattrath

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Shattrath was the draenei capital on Draenor. Its name in the Draenei language means "dwelling of light."


The draenei made it, but the naaru restored it after it was destroyed by the Burning Legion and the corrupted orcs. The construction and restoration of Shattrath happened before the World of Warcraft timeline. The Burning Legion destroyed Shattrath when it shattered Draenor and turned it into Outland.

As for the Black Temple, it was constructed way before the Burning Legion arrived. It was called the Temple of Karabor back then.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Temple_of_Karabor

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Before the shattering of Draenor, the Black Temple was once called the Temple of Karabor, a sacred site to the draenei which served as the refuge of the Prophet Velen. Shortly after the formation of the Horde, Gul'dan ordered the temple conquered and transformed it into the headquarters for the Shadow Council, renaming it the Black Temple in the process.


I don't believe a specific date has been revealed in canon lore yet. Official info just states "a long time ago."

Edited, Apr 1st 2012 4:00am by Mazra
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#3 Mar 31 2012 at 9:12 PM Rating: Good
Mazra wrote:
http://www.wowpedia.org/Shattrath

Quote:
Shattrath was the draenei capital on Draenor. Its name in the Draenei language means "dwelling of light."


The draenei made it, but the naaru restored it after it was destroyed by the Burning Legion and the corrupted orcs. The construction and restoration of Shattrath happened before the World of Warcraft timeline. The Burning Legion destroyed Shattrath when it shattered Draenor and turned it into Outland.

As for the Black Temple, it was constructed way before the Burning Legion arrived. It was called the Temple of Karabor back then.

http://www.wowpedia.org/Temple_of_Karabor

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Before the shattering of Draenor, the Black Temple was once called the Temple of Karabor, a sacred site to the draenei which served as the refuge of the Prophet Velen. Shortly after the formation of the Horde, Gul'dan ordered the temple conquered and transformed it into the headquarters for the Shadow Council, renaming it the Black Temple in the process.


I don't believe a specific date has been revealed in canon lore yet. Official info just states "a long time ago."

Edited, Apr 1st 2012 4:00am by Mazra

The more specific the better. But yes. There are just some parts of the Draenei lore that lack specificity. Thanks for the information though. But now I have even more questions.

What about the blood elves led by Kael'thas? Didn't they attack Shattrath only to have some of them break off from Kael and become the Skryer?

This is how I see things now with your information;

Draenei crash in Nagrand -> Temple of Karabor was built -> Orcs/legion attack the Temple of Karabor (orcs were shown in the BT patch 2.1.0 trailer) -> Draenei go into hiding -> Shattrath was built -> Orcs (or bloodelves?) attack Shattrath -> Draenei rebuild

Trailer video for 2.1.0 is below.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKFkUi7ceQM

Sorry if I've gotten anything wrong. I just really want to get as much correct info as I can without being taken in circles by websites like I've been having done to me. Nonetheless, thanks for the pages you did link. I didn't know much about the Black Temple when it was the Temple of Karabor.

Also the trailer showed something with an Orc doing something to what looked to be the dark portal when the voice-over said "After the horde's reckless sorcery tore the planet apart."

You said "The Burning Legion destroyed Shattrath when it shattered Draenor and turned it into Outland." further up in your first reply. Who caused the shattering of Draenor? The Orc that did 'something' with the dark portal look-a-like? Or the legion that supposedly destroyed Shattrath the first time around?

*Truthfully tries their best not to ramble on so damn much* -_-

Edited, Mar 31st 2012 11:35pm by xxarbatelxx

Edited, Mar 31st 2012 11:35pm by xxarbatelxx
#4 Mar 31 2012 at 9:37 PM Rating: Good
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The blood elf attack was a group of Kael'thas's forces. The leader of that group defected from Kael and sided with the Naruu. I believe his reasoning was a vision or something like that. The blood elves are not well liked though due to the violence between them and the draenei.

Edit: Yeah after reading the link to wowpedia it happens that Shatt was created > orcs and legion destry Shatt > Naruu kick orc and legion butt and reclaim Shatt > blood elves get ready to attack but end up defecting to Naruu side > present time.

Edited, Mar 31st 2012 11:41pm by Criminy

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You said "The Burning Legion destroyed Shattrath when it shattered Draenor and turned it into Outland." further up in your first reply. Who caused the shattering of Draenor? The Orc that did 'something' with the dark portal look-a-like? Or the legion that supposedly destroyed Shattrath the first time around?


http://www.wowpedia.org/Draenor That should answer any questions you may have about Draenor.

Edited, Mar 31st 2012 11:45pm by Criminy
#5 Mar 31 2012 at 9:51 PM Rating: Excellent
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Since I just did this mind-freak numbingly long quest on my 7th character tonight....
City of Light

Here's the text while you get escorted around Shattrath
Here's the text of what Khadgar's Servant whispers to you:
Shattrah was once the draenei capital of this world. Its name means "dwelling of light."

When the Burning Legion turned the orcs against the draenei, the fiercest battle was fought here. The draenei fought tooth and nail, but in the end the city fell.

The city was left in ruins and darkness... until the Sha'tar arrived.

Let us go into the Lower City. I will warn you that as one of the only safe havens in Outland, Shattrath has attracted droves of refugees from all wars, current and past.

The Sha'tar, or "born from light" are the naaru that came to Outland to fight the demons of the Burning Legion.

They were drawn to the ruins of Shattrath City where a small remnant of the draenei priesthood conducted its rites inside a ruined temple on this very spot.

The priesthood, known as the Aldor, quickly regained its strength as word spread that the naaru had returned and reconstruction soon began. The ruined temple is now used as an infirmary for injured refugees.

It wouldn't be long, however, before the city came under attack once again. This time, the attack came from Illidan's armies. A large regiment of blood elves had been sent by Illidan's ally, Kael'thas Sunstrider, to lay waste to the city.

As the regiment of blood elves crossed this very bridge, the Aldor's exarchs and vindicators lined up to defend the Terrace of Light. But then the unexpected happened.

The blood elves laid down their weapons in front of the city's defenders; their leader, a blood elf elder known as Voren'thal, stormed into the Terrace of Light and demanded to speak to A'dal.

As the naaru approached him, Voren'thal kneeled before him and uttered the following words: "I've seen you in a vision, naaru. My race's only hope for survival lies with you. My followers and I are here to serve you."

The defection of Voren'thal and his followers was the largest loss ever incurred by Kael's forces. And these weren't just any blood elves. Many of the best and brightest amongst Kael's scholars and magisters had been swayed by Voren'thal's influence.

The naaru accepted the defectors, who would be known as the Scryers; their dwelling lies in the platform above. Only those initiated with the Scryers are allowed there.

The Aldor are followers of the Light and forgiveness and redemption are values they understand. However, they found hard to forget the deeds of the blood elves while under Kael's command.

Many of the priesthood had been slain by the same magisters who now vowed to serve the naaru. They were not happy to share the city with their former enemies.

The Aldor's most holy temple and its surrounding dwellings lie on the terrace above. As a holy site, only the initiated are welcome inside.

The attacks against Shattrath continued, but the city did not fall, as you can see. On the contrary, the naaru known as Xi'ri led a successful incursion into Shadowmoon Valley - Illidan's doorstep.

There he continues to wage war on Illidan with the assistance of the Aldor and the Scryers. The two factions have not given up on their old feuds, though.

Such is their animosity that they vie for the honor of being sent to assist the naaru there. Each day, that decision is made by A'dal. The armies gather here to receive A'dal's blessing before heading to Shadowmoon.

Khadgar should be ready to see you again. Just remember that to serve the Sha'tar you will most likely have to ally with the Aldor or the Scyers. And seeking the favor of one group will cause the others' dislike.

Good luck stranger, and welcome to Shattrath City.
#6 Mar 31 2012 at 11:11 PM Rating: Good
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Since I just did this mind-freak numbingly long quest on my 7th character tonight....
City of Light

Here's the text while you get escorted around Shattrath
Here's the text of what Khadgar's Servant whispers to you:
Shattrah was once the draenei capital of this world. Its name means "dwelling of light."

When the Burning Legion turned the orcs against the draenei, the fiercest battle was fought here. The draenei fought tooth and nail, but in the end the city fell.

The city was left in ruins and darkness... until the Sha'tar arrived.

Let us go into the Lower City. I will warn you that as one of the only safe havens in Outland, Shattrath has attracted droves of refugees from all wars, current and past.

The Sha'tar, or "born from light" are the naaru that came to Outland to fight the demons of the Burning Legion.

They were drawn to the ruins of Shattrath City where a small remnant of the draenei priesthood conducted its rites inside a ruined temple on this very spot.

The priesthood, known as the Aldor, quickly regained its strength as word spread that the naaru had returned and reconstruction soon began. The ruined temple is now used as an infirmary for injured refugees.

It wouldn't be long, however, before the city came under attack once again. This time, the attack came from Illidan's armies. A large regiment of blood elves had been sent by Illidan's ally, Kael'thas Sunstrider, to lay waste to the city.

As the regiment of blood elves crossed this very bridge, the Aldor's exarchs and vindicators lined up to defend the Terrace of Light. But then the unexpected happened.

The blood elves laid down their weapons in front of the city's defenders; their leader, a blood elf elder known as Voren'thal, stormed into the Terrace of Light and demanded to speak to A'dal.

As the naaru approached him, Voren'thal kneeled before him and uttered the following words: "I've seen you in a vision, naaru. My race's only hope for survival lies with you. My followers and I are here to serve you."

The defection of Voren'thal and his followers was the largest loss ever incurred by Kael's forces. And these weren't just any blood elves. Many of the best and brightest amongst Kael's scholars and magisters had been swayed by Voren'thal's influence.

The naaru accepted the defectors, who would be known as the Scryers; their dwelling lies in the platform above. Only those initiated with the Scryers are allowed there.

The Aldor are followers of the Light and forgiveness and redemption are values they understand. However, they found hard to forget the deeds of the blood elves while under Kael's command.

Many of the priesthood had been slain by the same magisters who now vowed to serve the naaru. They were not happy to share the city with their former enemies.

The Aldor's most holy temple and its surrounding dwellings lie on the terrace above. As a holy site, only the initiated are welcome inside.

The attacks against Shattrath continued, but the city did not fall, as you can see. On the contrary, the naaru known as Xi'ri led a successful incursion into Shadowmoon Valley - Illidan's doorstep.

There he continues to wage war on Illidan with the assistance of the Aldor and the Scryers. The two factions have not given up on their old feuds, though.

Such is their animosity that they vie for the honor of being sent to assist the naaru there. Each day, that decision is made by A'dal. The armies gather here to receive A'dal's blessing before heading to Shadowmoon.

Khadgar should be ready to see you again. Just remember that to serve the Sha'tar you will most likely have to ally with the Aldor or the Scyers. And seeking the favor of one group will cause the others' dislike.

Good luck stranger, and welcome to Shattrath City.

Again! I cannot think why I just forget about things in-game that I've done multiple times that could help me with my questions. I need to roll a new character and level them legitimately. And it'll be useful if when I do this to actually pay attention to the quest text and not suddenly just look at the objectives panel and then my map.

Thanks, everyone for all your help. I'm so glad the're more resourceful people than me out there.

Edited, Apr 1st 2012 2:38am by xxarbatelxx
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#8 Apr 01 2012 at 12:47 AM Rating: Good
Thanks again, Poldaran! Always helpful. I couldn't find it on the forums. Thanks again!
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