Playing Warcraft too seriously?Follow

All these calculations and analyzing each stats for what? Only 1% does the "big" stuff anyway, just go and have fun! Last time I check, it was just a game (and an easy one).

Encounters are balanced around people number-crunching and min/maxing.

Also, "whatever floats your boat". You are playing the game for fun. If doing the maths yourself, and eqipping/skilling/playing your character the best human possible is fun for you, be my guest. (As long as you don't become a d-bag because of it.)

Everyone has different goals, in game and in real life. Enjoy achieving your own, and stop worrying about the next guy.

I feel like I'm getting trolled... but oh,well here it goes. If you are raiding then "min-max"ing should matter; especially when your raid is learning encounters or still gearing up for them. If you are just going to do random dungeons, at least "lrn2play". Know your rotation, get an idea how your threat generation is, and at least try ( I can't count how many times I've seen people who are obviously on cruise control in dungeons even going so far as to put themselves on follow). If you never plan on inflicting your special brand of stupid on other players; then by all means play however you want.

I know I'm being trolled here so severely that I'm getting a rash, but I honestly hate this attitude. To give you a heads up, I'm leader of a Christian fellowship guild on a PvE server composed mostly of 30 and 40 year old parents. My guild doesn't couldn't get much more carebear and "casual" than this. So, I play every day with people of varying degrees of abilities and am by no means egotistical about my characters. (just developing some ethos here)

I hate it when people come across with this "Its just a game!" attitude. If you were playing a baseball game would you show up in slippers and a robe and smack your teammates in the face repeatedly with a bat because its "just a game" and "just for fun"? Or would your teammates take your baseball bat and beat the living tar out of you because you were wasting their free time?

Don't get me wrong. I think some people take this game waaaaaaaay too seriously. But when you're playing a game with other PEOPLE you should be doing your best within reason to contribute to your fullest. See, I look at Elitist Jerks and check out some of the builds of some of my server's top raiders. I then consider the suggestions and make an educated guess. Sometimes I disagree with EJ, and maybe I'm wrong. But overall I do my best to perform my best so that when I'm playing with other PEOPLE I'm not a terrible hindrance to them.

After having lead 5 years of failed raids and painful heroics I can tell you how completely and totally disrespectful it is of my time and 8/23 others' for a player to show up under geared, not read up on the fight, and then go do whatever the heck they wanted. Over the course of 5 years I've literally wasted DAYS worth of time because someone had the lame-butt excuse "Wow's just a game, its not a full time job. I have a life." Yeah, I have a life too. Which is why I don't want to be face planting for three hours when I could be out enjoying time with my family or working on schoolwork. 30 minutes of your time once a week so we can spare everyone else hours of frustrating wipes isn't because we're too obsessed with the game...its because we understand how the game works and don't want to waste our time.

There are extremes. I generally just look at the proposed stat weights and I don't sit there messing with sims to get my exact stat weight. And if someone wants to go do that and enjoys it fine, but as long as I am performing reasonably lay off.

/endrant

Edited, Nov 15th 2011 6:42pm by ekaterinodar

Um, no. If you are missing key dps talents, and have no gems or enchants, you are holding your group back. I don't care if you're doing heroics, raiding T11 or raiding heroic Firelands.

If you're going to raid and run heroics, yes, you should know your class, gem properly (or close to it), enchant, specc correctly and at least read up on the bosses. You should also take it serious to a point, because you are with other people and like you said, you don't want to waste other peoples time.

With that said though, WoW is just a game and unless it's your sole source of income, it's not a full time job. To me at least (and a few others I've had the same conversasion with), if WoW starts to feel like a full time job, it's tends to stop being a game and/or fun for myself and probably a lot of other people. There can be a fine line between serious and game - and - serious and work for some people.

I had someone go emo over one 40 spirit gem in a guild because I should have (in his mind), had a 20/20 gem instead for my Holy priest. Everything else is golden though apparently. This is not my idea of a good time whether being a person like that, or in my case, having to listen to him. I literally replaced it just to get him to shutup so I could raid that night. Should I of had to deal with an emo kid that feels WoW is not a game, even though I do take it serious and know my stuff and am quite good at my roll? No, I think not.

To what RAW said: If you don't raid, don't run heroics and just do your own thing with minimal 5mans, then eh, he's probably right to some degree. In is own posting ways, he was not talking about radiers I don't think. I could be wrong as some of his posts are hard to figure out the context.

I disagree. If you're missing one enchant or one gem, sure that won't make a huge impact. But if you have no gems, and no enchants, that definitely is going to hurt you. Also, if you use the wrong gems/enchants, it's going to hurt you. Like if you're a fire mage gemming for pure mastery, sure it'll be a dps boost over not using anything, but you're still gimping yourself by not using Intellect gems or Int/haste or Int/crit gems since mastery is their weakest stat.

On my druid, when I got my first Cata epic weapon, I started out with Hurricane on it because Maelstrom crystals were so ridiculously expensive that Power Torrent was ridiculously expensive. When I finally saved up the gold to get Power Torrent, I did notice a change to my DPS. I don't remember the exact difference, but it was sure noticeable.

It's always amusing when someone posts over on the o-boards, wanting help with their dps, but they have no gems or enchants on their gear. It may not be the only problem, but I can guarantee you that it's exacerbating the issue.

My first toon is still my pride and joy. Although I've aged and no longer put in as much effort as I used to, I still would like my toon to be respectable.

Even though I've got away from the constant grind for badges, items, and reputations, I still enjoy the math and though process of any particular upgrade. It's part of the game. It's fun to play with the items, reforging, gemming, etc. to get that perfect set up.

Well PvP is a whole different issue. The concept of an optimal spec/gear/gemming will change with your partners/situation. You aren't trying to maximize pure on output most of the time.

25 times a small percentage is a whole ******* lot.

Well that's the sticking point in my mind. If player 'A' (I should so name my next character that...) is failing because he only logs into his character for raids, and has issues with his rotation because he's too busy playing his alt, I wouldn't be bugging him about a ungemmed socket. It would be all:



...and such. Now if he played fine, was sitting on 3k gold, and couldn't be ***** to put a gem in a piece of gear he got last week, yeah we'd have issues.




Edited, Nov 16th 2011 9:41am by someproteinguy