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Well I had a busy weekend. Got up to 35. Played in a few more dungeons. Why is it if I say "I've never done this dungeon before?" that no one even the person marked "dungeon guide" steps up and leads us through the dungeon? I ran into this multiple times. There cannot be this many new players or am I just imagining? I assume at this stage of WOW that people like me, completely new, are rare. But maybe I'm wrong.

After searching the AH and grimacing at the prices. I got the ability to have runes back at 25, only could afford 1 which was probably a mistake ( the Consecration rune) I decided to play with crafting. OMG this is so insanely easy. In 6 years of FFXI, I only got to 97.6 out of 100 Cooking. In 2 days, I'm now 216 Skinning and Leathercraft in the 60's. No breaks, no lousy one 0.1 skill up out of two-4 dozen synths. This is too easy. And selling a stack of leather for 25 gold will help with filling out my other 2 rune slots soon.

So I was questing out in . . . forget the name. I was having to kill Witch Doctors for some drop and all of the sudden I was attacked. There was this annoying laughing and once I managed to get a target it appeared to be some elf attacking me. I thought I was set not to be PVP but guess that doesn't apply out in the world. Anyway. The rogue came in, dropped me to very low heath. So I hit one of my cures, then popped Judgement, Consecretation, and pretty much the full range of DD abilities. The idiot started to run off and I caught him with the Stun move at the last second, then killed him.
So it was done, then he came back a minute or 2 later and attacked again. This time he did kill my wife's character (mage) in 2-3 hits. But I caught him with the stun and unloaded all the DD abilities and killed him again. This kind of ruined our fun, so after raising my wife, we rode out of there.

Is this normal?

Not talking has become more of a symptom since the dungeon finder was introduced. Many people will just silently pray you don't kill them. If you're the tank they may not want to risk offending you as they've been waiting in the queue for a half hour, and don't want to do that again. 'New Player' servers have more new people, but you aren't likely to meet them in the finder. If you were a DPS (DD) class and said you'd 'never been there before' you'd risk a vote-kick.



Crafting is pretty easy in WoW. There are points where it's more expensive, but as long as you have a supply of gold you won't have a problem leveling the profession. People 'power-level' professions from 0 to 525 in a day.



If you're on a PvP server people can harass you relentlessly. If you're on a PvE server remember that you'll be flagged for PvP after leaving a battleground, or if you have combat with a PvP-flagged NPC. Also there are some places that are always PvP even on a PvE server. Entering one of these even briefly will flag you for 5 minutes.

As mentioned above, there are things that will flag you for PVP even if you aren't on a PVP server. If set options to display your name, you will see your name turn to green if you're PVP flagged.

If you wound up on a PVP server and didn't know what you were getting into, go ahead and restart on a 'normal' server. It won't take you long to level up and you'll have the chance to change your mind about some of the choices you made when you were less familiar with the game.



Flee! LW will give you the ability to make various armor kits and it eventually gives you some decent enhancements through embossing. For all of that, it will suck up a tremendous amount of mats, particularly as you grind from roughly 200 to 300. You're only 50 points in. Drop it and pick up another gathering skill so that you have extra money.

Hmm I'm on Doomhammer a PVE server so we must have done something to enable us to get attacked, oh well live and learn I guess.

I joined a guild and it seems to be a basic new person guild or the remains of an old guild. Only level 4 and looking at the list 1 officer has not even logged on in a month. No events/raids scheduled. Guess I'll see how it goes. Already seen 10-15 people join and 5-6 leave in the few days I've been in it.

RE crafting. between my wife and I in FFXI we had 6 crafting mules in the 90-100 range. In FFXI you could only take 1 craft above 60 to get to the cap of 100. We'll probably create a few more characters once we get involved a bit more.

If I create a Horde Character on the same server can I mail stuff back and forth from an Alliance character? I assume not
also are the Auction houses linked? and if so how?

The only downside is how much of the winnings the neutral AH takes out of things you buy on it. It is around 15%. The bright side is you have your wife to do those transactions with so you don't have to find someone to help trade something very valuable and find out they are a scum bag and rip you off. Just a word of advice, if you plan to post something valuable for little to nothing (like 1s) be communicating when it is being posted and be at the AH ready to buy it as soon as it is posted. I have heard horror stories of people sniping sells like that because people weren't quick enough.

The neutral AH are in Booty Bay, Ratchet, and Gadgetzan. Unsure if there is one all the way up in Winterspring or not...

Also: Skinning + Mining & Herbalism + Inscription.

When you want to raise other professions you'll have to get the characters to at least lvl75 to cap the skills.

Thanks for the comments. I may drop leather, I assume its more useful to druids and rogues since they seem to wear the leather armors. I may have missed a class(es) though. If I have skinning without leather then I can sell the skins/hides/leather without guilt or my packrat nature telling me to save it for leveling leather.

Guess I should ask, looking toward endgame and all this tier 13 ( still not understanding the Tier label) gear. Is this gear going to be crafted, bought with some sort of points or drops? I'm not wanting to look at endgame stuff in detail atm. Enjoying the old thrill of just wandering around, exploring and questing. I see the allure of fast leveling, just get to 15 and then use dungeon finder to get levels fast.

Is there any advantage to exploring questing? vs the dungeons? I did several dungeons and won a decent amount of blue gear which is far supperior to all the green rewards I've gotten from questing. I have been able to get 2 of the cheap faction bags and just need ~5-600 more fame to get the Gnome 16 bag item for having high enough fame/reputation.

The "label" as it were, is based on the number of the raid. The very first raid was Molten Core back before we had any expansions. Firelands (the current raid tier) is the 12th raid, so hence it is tier 12. Raid gear is usually a combination of all three depending on your class/spec. I don't know if this is true for everyone, but it seems that in most cases, the crafted boots are the best in slot boots for this tier. The actual tier gear (which is specific to your class/role and has set bonuses, making it stronger the more pieces you have equipped) is partially bought with points and partially earned through drops. The only piece you can only earn through points is the chest, where as the only pieces you can earn through drops are the shoulders and helm. Gloves and pants you can earn either through points or from drops in the pvp raid. For T13 however, it will be different. I'm not sure if they've said whether or not any tier pieces will be available in the pvp raid or not, but in general you will only be able to earn tier gear in the raid.

The advantage to leveling via questing, is that in most cases it is actually faster exp/hr. The exception to this, is when you go into a new dungeon for the first time and you complete the quests. Dungeon quests give an extraordinary amount of experience, so those quests make up for the slower exp/hr that a dungeon normally gives.

Also tiers are like mini-expansions. Each one adds new content with better gear. So you'll be replacing all your equipment every few months.

Another thing to keep in mind is that both crafting and gathering have associated bonuses. Skinning increases your crit, LW lets you use "embossing" to enhance your gear with some nice bonuses. Leatherworking isn't necessarily useless (although it may not be optimal for min/maxing) but it may be easier to level later on, when farming stack after stack of leather is less of a grind.



As mentioned above, try a bit of everything. You can even get XP through battlegrounds.

You might want to head over to Wowhead and do a bit of research before moving into a new zone. Long quest chains often culminate in a decent blue item. I was, for example, pleasantly surprised to get a couple of decent trinkets from the post Cataclysm Badlands. Check out their information on instances too; several dungeons have nice quest rewards for killing the final boss.

CAVEAT: Your game experience will change when you hit Outland (58-60). You'll be hitting the oldest material in the game and it is somewhat less friendly for leveling. You'll level quickly, but it is a bit harder to get good gear outside of instances. Be sure to hit Wowhead so that you can pick the quests that are most useful to you; TBC questing was less linear and with the accelerated leveling it helps to plan a bit in advance.

Don't worry too much about getting the best possible gear in Outland though. At 68, switch to Northrend. Unless you had good luck with Outland instances and raids, you'll replace much of your gear in the first few quests.

[quote=Tepogue]Why is it if I say "I've never done this dungeon before?" that no one even the person marked "dungeon guide" steps up and leads us through the dungeon? I ran into this multiple times. There cannot be this many new players or am I just imagining? I assume at this stage of WOW that people like me, completely new, are rare. But maybe I'm wrong.


I also have done this and had the same outcome. Fortunately, I was lucky enough to get into a great guild and we do a lot of runs together, which I prefer over PUG runs. There are plenty of new players out there but I just figure that when it comes to situations such as these, people are either in a hurry, can't be bothered to help, or don't know enough to help out. Every now and then, however, you'll come across some really great people who are more than happy to help out.


Edited, Oct 14th 2011 7:30pm by talenz

Fish. Fish to level cooking with. Fish sell well...really well at higher levels. Fish Feast paid a lot of bills.

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Actually, Scholo and Lower Blackrock Spire were both originally 10, according to WoWPedia. UBRS was 15.