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#1 Aug 17 2011 at 9:06 AM Rating: Decent
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http://kotaku.com/5831732/cataclysm-comes-full-circle-deathwing-is-going-down
No source referenced that I saw, so I imagine email interview or something, but Kotaku is generally pretty good about their news, so anyway...

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World of Warcraft: Cataclysm Comes Full Circle; Deathwing Is Going Down

Soon hardened World of Warcraft players will have a chance to take on Deathwing in a Cataclysm-shaking end fight.

The Deathwing battle will come in a soon-to-be released patch for the Cataclysm expansion which includes three new five-player dungeons, a new raid and some cool new Ethereal-powered abilities.

The biggest tweak coming with patch 4.3 is the Ethereal ability to transmogrify a players armor.

Starting with the patch, players will be able to choose the armor they think looks the best, as well as the armor that is most powerful to combine them into a single set.

"We have a wealth of armor sets we created that people no longer use," said Tom Chilton, lead World of Warcraft game designer.

Worse still, Chilton said, as players start to top out they being to look very similar because many players seem to stick to the high level, epic gear.

The hope is that players will use "transmogrification" not just to mix and max their favorite armor, but that this new ability will encourage some players to go back through the game on the hunt for some of the armor they may have passed up because it was under-powered.

To transmogrify a piece of armor it has to be the same type (cloth, leather, mail, plate) and stay within the class. Players just take it to an Ethereal who has set up shop in town; they transmogrify the two pieces into one.

Chilton said Blizzard hadn't added the ability before now because it comes with a shifting philosophy about how the company views their game. It used to be that high level characters looked like high level characters, he said. It was a point of distinction, but as more and more players have topped out it's become sort of the opposite and too many players look the same.

Another addition coming with the patch is "Void Storage", a new 100 to 150 items slots. Like transmogrification, void storage comes from the Ethereals. Void storage is a pocket dimension created for a player that allows them to store extra items, but there is a downside.

Anything stored in the void is stripped of its enchantments and gems and the name of the person who crafted it, Chilton said. The stripping isn't tied to the lore of the game, either, but is the byproduct of a technical issue that makes this new storage system possible. (Read: Silly databases!)

Finally, Chilton and Chris Metzen, vice president of creative development at Blizzard, explained a new feature coming with the patch called "Raid Finder". The Raid Finder essentially operates like a dungeon finder, automating the search for fellow players on the hunt for a good raiding party. It will be built into the game's updated user interface when the patch hits, they said.

The bulk of the patch, though, will be a lot new content, Chilton said.

"It has a whole bunch of content," he said, "three dungeons for five player instances and a new raid instance culminating in the Deathwing fight."

This will be the last patch that includes new raid content for the Cataclysm expansion, Chilton said. But there will be another expansion, he added. He's just not ready to talk about it yet.


Editing just to add my own comment. We already figured what transmogrification was, no real surprise there. New dungeons are always nice. But, yeah....raid finder....yeah....that'll end well, I'm sure.

Edited, Aug 17th 2011 8:08am by CrimsonNeko
#2 Aug 17 2011 at 9:47 AM Rating: Decent
Well it isn't a surprise they are adding the new dungeons, they did the same with WoTLK in which you had a story arc involving the three dungeons and leading you up to the gates of Icecrown Citadel. But who knows when this patch will come out, I know some players will want it to come out soon because they are tired of ZG and ZA. But as for me it seems this expansion has been kinda rushed with how fast it seems the final content patch is coming along. Granted we may not even see it till the end of this year, or beginning of next. But it still felt like WoTLK had one more major content patch compared to this.
#3 Aug 17 2011 at 9:56 AM Rating: Good
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Worse still, Chilton said, as players start to top out they being to look very similar because many players seem to stick to the high level, epic gear.


Um, duh? Why would anyone wear less than optimal gear just to look different? And as a Druid, I'm already carrying two sets of gear in my bags, it's not like I have room for a "social set" for whenever I'm in town.
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#4 Aug 17 2011 at 10:23 AM Rating: Excellent
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Worse still, Chilton said, as players start to top out they being to look very similar because many players seem to stick to the high level, epic gear.


Um, duh? Why would anyone wear less than optimal gear just to look different? And as a Druid, I'm already carrying two sets of gear in my bags, it's not like I have room for a "social set" for whenever I'm in town.


I recall having 40-ish different pieces in the bag last expansion. Trinkets and idols were the worst...

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#5 Aug 17 2011 at 10:46 AM Rating: Good
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I'll admit, I only switch out one item between my tanking and DPS set (stamina trinket) these days, but when I wasn't Feral/Feral I'd have my entire Resto set with me, in case I was questing and wanted to queue up as healer.

It was just the hint of confusion in that quote from Chilton. "Many players seem to stick to the high level, epic gear." I mean, is he aware that the role-players make out a fairly small percentage of the player base?
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#6 Aug 17 2011 at 10:56 AM Rating: Excellent
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Rift got this one right. If you care what your gear looks like, use the cosmetic wardrobe page. I think this would be an easier answer than the one proposed here.
#7 Aug 17 2011 at 11:28 AM Rating: Good
Mazra wrote:
I'll admit, I only switch out one item between my tanking and DPS set (stamina trinket) these days, but when I wasn't Feral/Feral I'd have my entire Resto set with me, in case I was questing and wanted to queue up as healer.

It was just the hint of confusion in that quote from Chilton. "Many players seem to stick to the high level, epic gear." I mean, is he aware that the role-players make out a fairly small percentage of the player base?


I think it's more like back in Vanilla, getting to 60 and getting full high-level gear was an actual accomplishment, something to be proud of. Endgame characters looked like endgame characters.

But as the game progressed and wellfare epics kicked in, and as more and more people hit the max level, then everyone started looking like endgame characters because the endgame was much more accessible. And when everyone looks like a majorly powerful character, then nobody does.

Sure, the change came a long time ago, but they're just now addressing it with Transmogrification. A little slow on the uptake, but whatever.
#8 Aug 17 2011 at 11:42 AM Rating: Good
I'm not sure I believe Deathwing will be the next raid, unless they go for a Sunwell-esque "you thought he was the Big Bad?" with Xavius and N'Zoth in the Emerald Nightmare.
#9 Aug 17 2011 at 12:05 PM Rating: Good
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I'm not sure I believe Deathwing will be the next raid, unless they go for a Sunwell-esque "you thought he was the Big Bad?" with Xavius and N'Zoth in the Emerald Nightmare.


They've already said that Deathwing will be the next and final raid.
#10 Aug 17 2011 at 12:34 PM Rating: Good
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selebrin wrote:
I'm not sure I believe Deathwing will be the next raid, unless they go for a Sunwell-esque "you thought he was the Big Bad?" with Xavius and N'Zoth in the Emerald Nightmare.


They've already said that Deathwing will be the next and final raid.


Huh. Feels short.
#11 Aug 17 2011 at 1:23 PM Rating: Good
It does feel short, yeah. Three raid tiers in one expansion seems short, although I suppose it shouldn't since Wrath was the only one to do 4, unless you count Vanilla's Tier 0 pre raid gear.

I am excited for the gear appearance changer, and I don't even know what older priest tier gear looked like. I just really like the idea of being able to customize my gear so that I match.

On the wowheadnews article, someone posted a link to a German website which interviewed Tom Chilton, and it said that one of the new dungeons is going to be a CoT: War of the Ancients. I'm pretty stoked for that! A CoT instance for a fight no one has ever done before is pretty damn cool. It'll be interesting to see how they stick a war into a 5 man dungeon though.
#12 Aug 17 2011 at 1:30 PM Rating: Good
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It does feel short, yeah. Three raid tiers in one expansion seems short, although I suppose it shouldn't since Wrath was the only one to do 4, unless you count Vanilla's Tier 0 pre raid gear.


The only reason Wrath had 4 was because ICC wasn't ready yet and they had to put in the god-awful filler tier of ToC. Blizzard themselves stated multiple times that they had problems with stat inflation towards the end because a tier they didn't plan for was added. That was even one of the things they told us about Cataclysm - that the gear for all tiers was pretty much planned out in advance, and that ridiculous stat inflation was a thing of the past.

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On the wowheadnews article, someone posted a link to a German website which interviewed Tom Chilton, and it said that one of the new dungeons is going to be a CoT: War of the Ancients. I'm pretty stoked for that! A CoT instance for a fight no one has ever done before is pretty damn cool. It'll be interesting to see how they stick a war into a 5 man dungeon though.


I'm pretty excited about this one too. I don't know what the other two 5 mans could be, though, especially considering that they canceled the Abyssal Maw. It's likely they're splitting the War of the Ancients into 3 parts like they did with the Icecrown 5 mans.

Overall, though, this is the first patch in Cataclysm that I've actually been excited about.
#13 Aug 17 2011 at 1:35 PM Rating: Excellent
I hope they do split it up. That'd be pretty cool. The wowheadnews article suggested a redoing of the two AQ raids but I really hope that doesn't happen. We had enough remodeling of old content already this expansion, and I don't see how an AQ dungeon would fit with Deathwing.
#14 Aug 17 2011 at 1:39 PM Rating: Excellent
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Now I'm going to have to collect a bunch of old armor it seems. Think it's time to stock up on spiffy-looking BoEs to drop on the AH next patch. Smiley: wink

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We had enough remodeling of old content


This bears repeating.

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#15 Aug 17 2011 at 2:33 PM Rating: Good
We still need to finish off the Zandalari menace (perhaps get the other place at Gun'drak) though that'd be Yet Another Troll Instance, and punch Magatha Grimtotem in the face.
#16 Aug 17 2011 at 3:13 PM Rating: Good
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We still need to finish off the Zandalari menace (perhaps get the other place at Gun'drak) though that'd be Yet Another Troll Instance, and punch Magatha Grimtotem in the face.


Magatha is a Zandalari in disguise, and they are actually pawns of Nozdormu, the secret leader of the Infinite Dragonflight. The Grimtotem were all being mind controlled into helping by Nozdormu's master, N'Zoth, who wants Deathwing dead and uses them all to help out in the final fight in 4.3.

Yup. All completely cannon.
#17 Aug 17 2011 at 3:21 PM Rating: Decent
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So instead of t12 being more full of content or having Maw to raid, we get nifty costumes and an extra bank in t13?

Um, yay?

Don't get me wrong, I'll be putting my rogue back in his t6.5 full set and will likely take some time to dress up a few other toons... but... i can haz content?

Oh man, just realized this too: The new 5-mans will probably be yet another gear jump making the original Caty dungeons as useless as pigtails on a DK. Wonder if they'll give 250 Valor badgers so I can buy more stuff for toons that never raid. lawlerz.
#18 Aug 17 2011 at 4:25 PM Rating: Good
-.- I'm not useless damn it! I'm just a n00b when it comes to my DK. It's not my fault EJ hasn't kept their Frost thread updated.
#19 Aug 17 2011 at 4:25 PM Rating: Excellent
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So instead of t12 being more full of content or having Maw to raid, we get nifty costumes and an extra bank in t13?

Um, yay?

Don't get me wrong, I'll be putting my rogue back in his t6.5 full set and will likely take some time to dress up a few other toons... but... i can haz content?


We're getting a new raid, 3 new 5 mans, a LFR finder, a new Darkmoon Faire, and the costumes and storage. Even if you took out the costumes and storage, this is more content than we've gotten in any other patch. Abyssal Maw wasn't canceled so that they would work on Transmog and Void Storage, they canceled it because they didn't want to give us a half-assed story.

Would they have been able to maybe get out another 5 man without the costumes and storage? Maybe, but probably not.

Edited, Aug 17th 2011 6:41pm by IDrownFish
#20 Aug 17 2011 at 4:27 PM Rating: Good
Yeah, I still don't really get the Abyssal Maw story so far, but that's large in part due to me not having bothered finishing Vash on any of my toons yet.
#21 Aug 17 2011 at 4:44 PM Rating: Good
I didn't really get it while doing Vash. The Old Gods turned the Highborn into Naga, the Naga serve Azshara, and Azshara serves the Old Gods. The Elemental Lieutenants serve the Old Gods. But the Naga and the Lieutenants are at war? Or something.

It basically sums up to the Naga want full control of the sea, and I think the Old Gods are backing them. So they go after Neptulon with the Old God's assistance. So I guess Neptulon broke away, like Therazane?
#22 Aug 17 2011 at 4:58 PM Rating: Excellent
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Don't know if this has anything to do with it, but a Murloc in Blasted Lands said this:

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Neptulon the Tidehunter is our god. He was the god of the Bloodwash, too, but they have turned their back on him, it seems. They now choose to worship only Azshara, their naga queen. You will see likenesses of Azshara littered around their settlements, carved out of seastone.

<The murloc spirit eyes your weapon.>

That weapon will do. Send it through their Azsh'ir idols. They need to be reminded that our father Neptulon is the only one who truly rules the seas.
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#23 Aug 17 2011 at 5:18 PM Rating: Good
Oh, and did anyone else groan at:

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priests can bring Benediction back -- at least in spirit.


Bad pun Blizzard, bad pun. And this is coming from someone who loves puns.
#24 Aug 17 2011 at 5:36 PM Rating: Decent
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They announced shorter turn around on Expansions, which for a game that has passed its peak growth is probably a good idea.

Especially as the population trends towards canceling/renewing subscriptions based on release of new content. The days of sitting on content for way way too long like Tier 6 are gone.
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#25 Aug 17 2011 at 11:43 PM Rating: Good
I am perfectly fine with that, although the idea of having to pay for expansions more frequently is a bit off putting. =/
#26 Aug 18 2011 at 6:39 AM Rating: Good
Definitely some solid changes, albeit about 3 years too late IMO for the gear storage. Before I quit I had since deleted a decent amount of my old tier gear because I just didn't have room for it in my bank anymore. It wouldn't have been an issue if it was still around the end of BC or middle of WotLK. Oh well, not like it will get me to come back, but it is a nice addition.
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