idiggory wrote:
The problem is that the stuff to do outside of raiding is REALLY shallow right now. I just took my DK from 82 to 85 in under a week and got the Cata loremaster achievement. To finish WotLK quests took WAAAAAY longer. There were also more factions to work on outside of dungeons, many of whom had vanity items to earn. Many crafts (if not all) are now tied to dailies, so you are forced into a really slow rate of progression in them. Take JCing for instance--it takes 3 dailies just to get one new recipe (and up to four or five of them).
So, if those kinds of things occupied a lot of your time before, they don't know.
And the ease at which you can gain honor means people only doing casual pvp still run out of rewards pretty quickly.
CrunkJuice7 wrote:
"What time frame in WoW history had more to do outside of raiding than now does? "
wrath of the lich king.i actually saw people log in outside of raid times in wrath,the majority of people i know only log in to raid in cataclysm
Lets not forget to mention the heroics were far more accessible from the start and took a LOT less time. I remember shortly after Cataclysm hit heroics took 2-3 hours for the EASY ones. That's a whole lot of time for a minimal chance of upgrades. Lich King heroics from the start may have taken a little bit of time while people learned them, but nothing like the Cata ones. In BC and WOTLK you had a chance for an epic at the end. Cata upped the time and difficulty but reduced the overall reward.
I'm fine with the changes to the vendors. I didn't like the oodles and oodles of epics being given out for minimal work, but a couple at the end of a heroic was fine.
Most of my guild is casual and most of us are burnt out with the shallow garbage there is to do. The troll heroics were interesting for a couple of weeks, but now they are just a boring time sink.
I have 5 months left on my subscription but I'm not playing. I log in from time to time because im the GL, but I can't stomach to do anything. Getting to 85 now is a joke.
I think I'm to the point where I'm going to try out another game while Blizzard decides to actually give me something to do besides raid...which isn't happening with a casual guild like it could in Lich King.
I swore they promised varying difficulty of raids for Cata? Like 1 easy one for casuals, a 2nd one for more skilled groups, and a 3rd one for more hardcore groups?
Even a short easy raid (something bigger than TB) would be nice right now.